Mini Normal 2200 | Game Over

[Alisae]

Maybe I'm wrong because the player I'm thinking of should know that I'm town here :/

Really?

I thought you were Flea for a moment but now I'm not sure and tbh I don't really care so...

[Farkran]

i should be realizing you're town because you're lhf? is that what you're arguing rn?

and the fact that i'm not means i'm scum?

I mean, this is what i am referring to

You're not trying to understand my position at all ever since i have been talking about lucy in d1, you're just looking for a reason for pushing me. I have laid out my thoughts for scumreading you, this post you quoted does not even mention my scumcase lol

Your position was naive on luca, lucy, pooky and me, every time when it was convenient of you to find a scumread to pursue without committing yourself to it in order to keep your options open + don't get discredited for mislims

[Ydrasse]

that looks cozy ydra

i know right?

[Alisae]

that looks cozy ydra

i know right?

ya that sounds fantastic count me in

[skitter30]

Also Skitter what do you think of Day's read on me and the bits/moments where I was mentioned in their ISO?

idk i actually have to look at the iso, let me circle back a little later

[Day]

I feel worse about Farkran after 4362. It's very obvious why Pooky dying looks good for skitter and bad for Farkran, and for him to outright deny it means nothing at all is eh. I mean, it's fair to argue why it's a frame considering he was PR/widely townread, but arguing skitter would be naive to take this stance as town so she's probably scum is doubtful, it's the obvious take.

[skitter30]

i should be realizing you're town because you're lhf? is that what you're arguing rn?

and the fact that i'm not means i'm scum?

I mean, this is what i am referring to

You're not trying to understand my position at all ever since i have been talking about lucy in d1, you're just looking for a reason for pushing me. I have laid out my thoughts for scumreading you, this post you quoted does not even mention my scumcase lol

Your position was naive on luca, lucy, pooky and me,

every time when it was convenient of you to find a scumread to pursue without committing yourself

to it in order to keep your options open + don't get discredited for mislims

- your positions seem very foreign and unnatural to me
- i'm not sure why i need to be mentioning your scumcase here
- i strongly disagree that my positions on any of those people were naive, and your'e creativing narratives for my votes that don't exist
- you're leaning into luca's thing about penguin to claim that i'm 'keeping my options open without getting discredited for mislims' and i have a very, very, very hard time believing that you believe what luca's pushing right now. are you really trying to tell me that you think i was towneading penguin while secretly trying to get the wagon to go through in order to get the flip without getting the blame for it? i very much want an answer to this quesion
- who is the bolded referring to?

[Farkran]

I feel worse about Farkran after 4362. It's very obvious why Pooky dying looks good for skitter and bad for Farkran, and for him to outright deny it means nothing at all is eh. I mean, it's fair to argue why it's a frame considering he was PR/widely townread, but arguing skitter would be naive to take this stance as town so she's probably scum is doubtful, it's the obvious take.

...I have been saying the exact same things you said here though? Ofc pooky dying makes skitter look good, that's why her take is naive?

[skitter30]

right, if i'm scum looking to push you today i kill the biggest supporter of your wagon who was townreading me until the end of the universe. that makes a lot of sense /s

fark i also need you to explain ho this makes sense

[skitter30]

or is that what you're characterizing as a 'naive' thought.

if you think taht that's naive and not how i approach this as scum you're either greatly misunderstanding how i play scum or are ignoring how i would in order to create this narrative

i never kill pooky last night, never in a billion years

[Day]

town!skitter who thinks you're scum is obviously going to ascertain that Pooky was killed because he townread skitter and scumread you. Why's it naive and scummy for her?

[Day]

I told you all not to rush day 1. If we'd used all the time and got to page 200 we probably would've flipped scum

[Day]

I still think Norwee's town

[skitter30]

like if my plan for today is to push fark killing the guy who was pushing him yesterday who also was townreading me to that extent kinda puts a wrench in that plan,no?

it's not even about me looking good or anything it's like fark is saying i came into today looking to push him but why would i shoot myself in the foot overnight if that's what i'm trying to do as scum

[Farkran]

i should be realizing you're town because you're lhf? is that what you're arguing rn?

and the fact that i'm not means i'm scum?

I mean, this is what i am referring to

You're not trying to understand my position at all ever since i have been talking about lucy in d1, you're just looking for a reason for pushing me. I have laid out my thoughts for scumreading you, this post you quoted does not even mention my scumcase lol

Your position was naive on luca, lucy, pooky and me,

every time when it was convenient of you to find a scumread to pursue without committing yourself

to it in order to keep your options open + don't get discredited for mislims

1. Your positions seem very foreign and unnatural to me
2. i'm not sure why i need to be mentioning your scumcase here
3. i strongly disagree that my positions on any of those people were naive, and your'e creativing narratives for my votes that don't exist
4. You're leaning into luca's thing about penguin to claim that i'm 'keeping my options open without getting discredited for mislims' and i have a very, very, very hard time believing that you believe what luca's pushing right now. are you really trying to tell me that you think i was towneading penguin while secretly trying to get the wagon to go through in order to get the flip without getting the blame for it? i very much want an answer to this quesion
5. who is the bolded referring to?

1. Yours too, that's the point
2. I mean, you said that i scumread you just because you scumread me and forgot to mention everything else i said about why i scumread you
3. Eh, ok, i disagree, nothing much i can say here besides yeah they were very naive
4. I literally said i was onto you before luca even begun to post in d2
5. Around eod you started doubting your position on mena and pp - you were ready to compromise on anyone after making an immense fuss about mena being town, i can look for the post for you if you don't recall

Pedit: ok, but scum!skit (or anyone tbh) always kills a widely townread, claimed pr in this context and refusing to acknowledge that while pushing the lhf slot and ignoring anything else is very naive

Pooky is exactly the type of slot that you would *never* be able to remove via mislim and you don't want to ever bring to elo

[Farkran]

like if my plan for today is to push fark killing the guy who was pushing him yesterday who also was townreading me to that extent kinda puts a wrench in that plan,no?

it's not even about me looking good or anything it's like fark is saying i came into today looking to push him but why would i shoot myself in the foot overnight if that's what i'm trying to do as scum

In what universe do you bring a pretty much conftown PR to elo omg

What kind of player does that

[Day]

Fark is basically arguing that the WIFOM of Pooky dying is worth more than Pooky being alive to push Fark himself, and it's debatable if you consider that alone. But then if you also consider skitter had a game long pocket on Pooky, the former is far less likely of a route for scum!skitter to take.

[skitter30]

i would always bring him to elo? he's never going to vote me this game

why would i *ever* kiill him?

i'll get to the rest momentarily

[Menalque]

i once brought a conftown and a player he had mechcleared to Elo and won

[Menalque]

yah the idea that scum!skitt kills pooky N1 is kinda ridiculous imo

[skitter30]

4. I literally said i was onto you before luca even begun to post in d2
5. Around eod you started doubting your position on mena and pp - you were ready to compromise on anyone after making an immense fuss about mena being town, i can look for the post for you if you don't recall

- luca was very clearly warming up to scumreading me again eod1 so this isn't a good defense
- i. was. never. going. to. vote. pp.
and the fact that you are still pushing this means that you're ignoring reality because it's inconvenient

mena i didn't really want to vote either, i was only goign to if we literally couldn't get a compromise otherwise, and i feel like people are blowing this out of proportion

[skitter30]

how you can possibly describe me as 'ready to compromise on anyone' is also baffling given that i started off a whole conversation trying to get everyone to say who they would and wouldn't vote given that there were multiple people i wasn't willing to vote

[Ydrasse]

farkran, could you quote where skitter was ready to vote pp? :<

[skitter30]

5. Around eod you started doubting your position on mena and pp - you were ready to compromise on anyone after making an immense fuss about mena being town, i can look for the post for you if you don't recall

also, going from 'doubting my position on mena and pp' (which i wasn't, but besides the point) to 'ready to comprise on anyone' is a bit of a stretch ...

[Farkran]

Bah, i don't know what to say anymore

I would ask you to show the games where you bring an unknown hardtownread PR to elo but i don't even care, it's not a plausible thought to base your push against someone on that

2 am, i'm going to bed, your call

Pedit: you started posturing against everyone by d1 eod and that's not a thing luca said *before* i pointed it out

Pedit2: i could if you need to, but it's there in skitter's iso around when she started talking about compromise, i think you can easily find it by looking for "compromise" in the word search, otherwise i'll get back tomorrow