Mini Normal 2197: Noraaland ~Endgame~

[Toogeloo]

I am an odd night motion detector.

Night 1, I detected no motion on/from MurderCat.
Night 3, I detected motion on/from Dannflor.

No motion on MC was one of the reasons I was town reading him harder on Day 2.

Dann needs to claim.

[Toogeloo]

This is my current reads-list...

Lock-town
-MurderCat

Lean-town
-Johnny

PoE
-Titus
-Salsa
-Infinity
-Dann

I don't like the idea of both an Alien and a JK, so my current solve is Infinity and Dann.

[Salsabil Faria]

Sorry, are we mass claiming? If so, then I'll claim too.

[Salsabil Faria]

I don't like the idea of both an Alien and a JK, so my current solve is Infinity and Dann.

By seeing the roles' names, JK can't be a role too, at least not named as a JK? Not sure though, I didn't play on these types of weird roles named games before. I also didn't see

MURDERCAT

and

Infinity 324

as TvT at first, but she claimed N1 N3 JK later, and I'm still townreading

MURDERCAT

.

[Salsabil Faria]

I am an odd night motion detector.

Night 1, I detected no motion on/from MurderCat.
Night 3, I detected motion on/from Dannflor.

No motion on MC was one of the reasons I was town reading him harder on Day 2.

Dann needs to claim.

So, at N2, there were 2 night kills but at N3, there was 1. The motion you detected can be

from

Dannflor

ig. Also, by keeping JK alive, why the mafia team go for

Momrangal

?

[Salsabil Faria]

UNVOTE: Dannflor

[MURDERCAT]

Will catch up later but dann needs to claim next now

[Titus]

I do think Dann needs to claim.

I still FoS Infinity but the correct move is to finish mass claim.

[Infinity 324]

What is your current read list?

Damn scum, idk where the other scum is. Toog/titus or maybe you is my thought? There's still a decent chance titus was protected n1, but I'm wondering why she's still alive, and she isn't that towny by play

[Infinity 324]

Spoiler: JV not solving

Oh, good catch Italiano. E-1 this early is a bit much.

I agree there is likely scum there, will take a look in a bit. Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?

Vote on Ari now srs.

VOTE: Ari

Murder do you have thoughts on your wagon

A couple yeah. I think Flea is ever so lean towny. You and Gamma get a pass. The vote I'd be most worried about is pikachu but I'd probably do that as town, so it's fine. ITB I am just going to sort later.

What do you make of Titus Infinity?

Could you explain the reasonings behind this vote?

I'm not really sure what to think of MURDERCAT's hero solve. It seems not to jive with what his perspective should be, namely that scum deliberately wagoned him to claim. Which would mean at least one of Statue and Beginning should be in his solve. Also, Ari being in his solve is entirely opportunistic. If MURDERCAT is scum and the rule of 3 applies then Infinity should be scum as well.

Isn't a hero solve generally something you give a stab in the dark? But yeah I think you're strongly town from this

Also sorry for the inactivity, had irl issues going on including being sick

I don't like the top wagons.

We should just
VOTE: No Lim

instead.

Yeah this is just bad, I like my vote where it is

Actually

I don't think I like titus this game

Oh why's that? I am going to disagree with you here

I wanna TR the effort from a new player, I don't agree that what you pointed out are scumtells for a new player

Effort is not telling of alignment

My vote is serious and my tone is not

What does this mean?

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In The Beginning: That vote to, quite deliberately, put MC at E-1 was scummy af. The no-elimination vote is super weird, but doesn't make any sense for scum to do, and I don't he's done anything scummy since. Probably town.

Scummy as fuck, does things that don't make sense, and then done nothing scummy for a while = probably town?

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I feel like Johnny is just rolling over, which seems like something town do more often than scum.

Are you saying you TR both Statue and Farrar?

[6] JohnnyFarrar: Aristophanes, Titus, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, StatueSurfer [E-1]

I have words about this once I finish catching up, probably bad if I say it now and I will also likely forget so poke me about it if so

Back to this now that I've caught up.

I am not the greatest fan of Statue's vote here, and I am currently trying to gauge, if they're scum, if it's an opportunistic vote or a bus type of vote. I'll have to look back

I'm gonna move MC up to my strongest townlean.

Do you have TRs at all or is MC simply your strongest town atm

[MURDERCAT]

Thanks Infinity

Dann needs to claim

[Salsabil Faria]

I keep thinking about one thing, let's just say I believe

Infinity 324

's and

Toogeloo

's claims. Now, we see at N2, there were 2 kills which means the mafia team has 2 killer roles, right? Now, from

Toogeloo

's N1 result and from

Infinity 324

's N3 result we can sort

MURDERCAT

as a conftown? Cause I bet both killer scums use their powers to kill 2 townies but

Infinity 324

's jailing save

MURDERCAT

from the nk? If that so, then the last 2 scums are in between

Dannflor

,

JohnnyFarrar

and

Titus

. My POE will be this: {

Dannflor

,

Titus

,

JohnnyFarrar

}.

VOTE: Dannflor

(E-2)

You can't be lurking till the last day, can you?

[Infinity 324]

Now, we see at N2, there were 2 kills which means the mafia team has 2 killer roles, right?

Not possible in a normal, also one of the deaths was scum. I suspect we have a N2 vig

[Toogeloo]

Yeah, one scm was killed N2. A vig, pgo, or joat is more likely. That player is also confirmed town imo.

[Toogeloo]

I think Damn is due for a prod soon, but we can't yet him if he decides to lurk out.

Scum could maybe have just given up too.

[Salsabil Faria]

Now, we see at N2, there were 2 kills which means the mafia team has 2 killer roles, right?

Not possible in a normal, also one of the deaths was scum. I suspect we have a N2 vig

gReAt! We need the mass claim then. It's becoming too complicated for me tbh. What will be the serial of claiming after

Dannflor

? Me>

JohnnyFarrar

>

Titus

>

MURDERCAT

is good?

[Salsabil Faria]

I think Damn is due for a prod soon, but we can't yet him if he decides to lurk out.

Scum could maybe have just given up too.

Or they want to stop the mass-claim scenario?

[Toogeloo]

I would say Titus before Johnny, and I don't think MC even needs to claim if he doesn't want to.

PEdit: we could still mass claim without Damn here. It just adds more fuel to meeting him.

[Toogeloo]

yet and meeting = yeet and yeeting

[Salsabil Faria]

Do you want me to claim now then? I have no problem claiming anytime.

[Infinity 324]

Dann should claim first, he probably should've claimed before toog

[Salsabil Faria]

What will you do if he doesn't show up?

[MURDERCAT]

wait for replacement

[Infinity 324]

Wait until he gets replaced

I don't want to let scum gain an advantage in the claim order by lurking

[Salsabil Faria]

Ok, zeeping my mouth then...