Open 808: The Council Has Spoken


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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:39 am

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In post 47, mozamis wrote:
In post 29, Battle Mage wrote:I'm secretly a bit of a T-Bone fan
that's great and all, but you can't possibly knpw whether he is town or scum yet. Best to unvote.
...you're kidding right? :lol:
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 31, mozamis wrote:HEAL: ah ha
Bad spelling. It's a-ha

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 am

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In post 49, Almost50 wrote:
In post 29, Battle Mage wrote:i just picked what i thought would make a good council. I'm secretly a bit of a T-Bone fan, and I feel like between us we can get a good read on Artemiana.
I am deliberately not commenting on this bad reasoning because I don't want to turn the thread into a BM vs A50 bickering duel.
probably best you don't, because:

A. it's RVS
B. the premise isn't inherently bad
C. your first ~10 posts were just spam and awkward 'jokes'. people in glass houses etc.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 am

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In post 45, Almost50 wrote:
@Mod: Would you accept a string that is NOT the exact username if it definitely identifies that player?
(Ex: Over50)
So long as I can figure out who it is, I will accept it.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:42 am

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In post 46, Almost50 wrote:
In post 28, mozamis wrote:VOTE: T-BONE

Meat is murder ;)
I think -if Scum- he could have easily asked his p (or the mod) in the Scum PT.
I don't understand what your post has to do with the post you're quoting?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:44 am

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Says this..
In post 35, Battle Mage wrote: especially when an actual vote could result in ending the day with no council.
And does this..
In post 35, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: mozamis
At least you got that one right

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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:45 am

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nothing more frustrating than open games not approached with good strategy. but i'm not a strategy expert, and I'm confident we have enough smart cookies here to avoid something moronic like accidental No-Council...

but it would also be useful to focus the majority of today's effort on finding scum, which is where there's a bit more discernment (because scum and town will be eager to get on the council, but scum will not share the same natural enthusiasm for finding scum).
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 40, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 39, Almost50 wrote:
In post 8, Enchant wrote:Raya36, unvote or you will get nightkilled.
???
Enchant means it.
Means what? And which vote was he referring to (the "vote" vote or the "heal" vote)? And how do you know what someone else meant?

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 55, Almost50 wrote:Says this..
In post 35, Battle Mage wrote: especially when an actual vote could result in ending the day with no council.
And does this..
In post 35, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: mozamis
At least you got that one right
You've misunderstood. I have a council vote in play - my point was that there's no need to be MORE hesitant about a council vote than an elim vote, and if there is a difference it should be in favour of making council votes.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 20, yessiree wrote:the real question is why does battle mage have a milftank avatar

WHOAH, keep your fetishes to yourself. -b
this sort of banter probably town, drawing attention to themsleves
Provis council: Moz, Yessiree,
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 57, Almost50 wrote:
In post 40, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 39, Almost50 wrote:
In post 8, Enchant wrote:Raya36, unvote or you will get nightkilled.
???
Enchant means it.
Means what? And which vote was he referring to (the "vote" vote or the "heal" vote)? And how do you know what someone else meant?
that was just a joke. But seriously, Enchant does that stuff, it's NAI.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 44, Battle Mage wrote:is your gimmick nowadays to spam the thread with nothing remotely useful?

VOTE: Almost50
It is. Nice of you to notice.

@The rest: It is also my current meta to lurk a bit, but the mod
told me to
requested that I should be active enough, and he asked very nicely.

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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 47, mozamis wrote:that's great and all, but
you can't possibly
knpw whether he is town or scum yet. Best to unvote.
Think again. :wink:

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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 51, Almost50 wrote:
In post 31, mozamis wrote:HEAL: ah ha
Bad spelling. It's a-ha
if I press that link, will I end up trying to hit a note that I will never be able to hit lol
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 54, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 46, Almost50 wrote:
In post 28, mozamis wrote:VOTE: T-BONE

Meat is murder ;)
I think -if Scum- he could have easily asked his p (or the mod) in the Scum PT.
I don't understand what your post has to do with the post you're quoting?
That's above your pay grade.

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:52 am

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ok, almost looking town. He's posting more very freely, good luck to him if he is scum, he is playing a very good game.

HEAL: mozamis, almost50, yessiree
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:54 am

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In post 58, Battle Mage wrote:You've misunderstood. I have a council vote in play - my point was that there's no need to be MORE hesitant about a council vote than an elim vote, and if there is a difference it should be in favour of making council votes.
Your council vote does not exactly "seal the deal". If you are concerned about an elimination before a council is found you should probably not vote some for elimination until the council
is
hammered.

But that's just me.. as always

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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 63, mozamis wrote:if I press that link, will I end up trying to hit a note that I will never be able to hit lol
Nope. It's genuine proof that the correct spelling is a-ha!

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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:58 am

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Ok, i take it seriusly now.


As we know, Council get ability to protect and track.
It will become worthless if even one mafia slip.
For obvious reason. We have 9 people and only 2 mafia. So we have pretty decent chances to create "All Town Council" right now. So while you can be suspicious, it's almost impossible to have evidence. So it's better to create council than don't create, even if you disagree with people in it.

How to choose? Well, i suggested myself and BM+T-Bone for reason. I know i'm town, and BM with T-Bone is expireinced players, who can point track and protect at right target. Though, everyone could say that.


If mafia killed, it makes tracks even more powerfull. If somehow one of mafia die,
don't eluminate
before council become impossible (Day 4), because tracks will produce confirmed townies.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 62, Almost50 wrote:
In post 47, mozamis wrote:that's great and all, but
you can't possibly
knpw whether he is town or scum yet. Best to unvote.
Think again. :wink:
that's a fair point. looks like a scumslip - if Mozamis was town, they would think I could potentially be scum.

VOTE: mozamis

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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 65, mozamis wrote:ok, almost looking town. He's posting more very freely, good luck to him if he is scum, he is playing a very good game.

HEAL: mozamis, almost50, yessiree
:lol: I legitimately laughed. Your bar for "a very good game" needs to be raised. xD

what do you think about Almost50 calling out your slip?
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:04 am

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In post 66, Almost50 wrote:
In post 58, Battle Mage wrote:You've misunderstood. I have a council vote in play - my point was that there's no need to be MORE hesitant about a council vote than an elim vote, and if there is a difference it should be in favour of making council votes.
Your council vote does not exactly "seal the deal". If you are concerned about an elimination before a council is found you should probably not vote some for elimination until the council
is
hammered.

But that's just me.. as always
that's a possible interpretation - but not mine.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 68, Enchant wrote:Ok, i take it seriusly now.


As we know, Council get ability to protect and track.
It will become worthless if even one mafia slip.
For obvious reason. We have 9 people and only 2 mafia. So we have pretty decent chances to create "All Town Council" right now. So while you can be suspicious, it's almost impossible to have evidence. So it's better to create council than don't create, even if you disagree with people in it.

How to choose? Well, i suggested myself and BM+T-Bone for reason. I know i'm town, and BM with T-Bone is expireinced players, who can point track and protect at right target. Though, everyone could say that.


If mafia killed, it makes tracks even more powerfull. If somehow one of mafia die,
don't eluminate
before council become impossible (Day 4), because tracks will produce confirmed townies.
Yes I completely agree with this reasoning.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:28 am

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So listen my suggestion.


I'm not really happy with Battle Mage choose. I feel like he could just grab someone from scumteam. So my suggestion.


We choose one person via majority. After that, this person choose someone. And then, this choosen person will choose third one. And this will be our Council. While it's possible for mafia being in, we gain maximum info from this. Of course it somewhat strange on paper and dunno if necessary, but fun as hell so let's do. No, you can't vote for yourself.


I vote mozamis for Council. He expireinced player as well (2011), but somehow not in list of any councils. So i suggesting him.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:37 am

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In post 73, Enchant wrote:So listen my suggestion.


I'm not really happy with Battle Mage choose. I feel like he could just grab someone from scumteam. So my suggestion.


We choose one person via majority. After that, this person choose someone. And then, this choosen person will choose third one. And this will be our Council. While it's possible for mafia being in, we gain maximum info from this. Of course it somewhat strange on paper and dunno if necessary, but fun as hell so let's do. No, you can't vote for yourself.


I vote mozamis for Council. He expireinced player as well (2011), but somehow not in list of any councils. So i suggesting him.
Mozamis literally scumslipped already (revealed that the player knows I am town). There is zero chance I'm putting Mozamis in the council. :lol:

Otherwise I like the approach.
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