Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[Momrangal]

That scenario is also very unlikely because like, it would bank on some pre-plannjng which means they would need to know about Koba befote they slipped.

Why are you trying to avoid all responsibilities?

[Andresvmb]

I called Koba out D1. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that figured that out.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think it's elements/dgb slot off the top of my head

Maxwell needs to claim his role tomorrow

who then?

My poe makes me think max is one

Can you give your poe?

Some of it depends on this flip

I don't really think it's andres, or mom

I don't think datisi/GC are both scum together; if this is town I can see datisi being scum easily

vpb I've been trying to avoid going for, it's a maybe but probably not

I'm coming around on dgb/elements being town

I don't see a reason to townread max here so I'm getting suspicious regardless of the claim (which is not specified and easily fakeable)

[Andresvmb]

Besides, what? Koba was NK’ed N1. And they had already slipped. What are you talking about?

[Dunnstral]

What are you guys talking about?

[Momrangal]

So max/RL/datisi or GC?

[Andresvmb]

Why are you trying to avoid all responsibilities?

And what does this even mean? What responsibilities? I’ve screwed up almost as much as everyone else here. What’s your point?

[Momrangal]

Besides, what? Koba was NK’ed N1. And they had already slipped. What are you talking about?

Koba got a good long ways without slipping

[RLotus]

I don't think it's elements/dgb slot off the top of my head

Maxwell needs to claim his role tomorrow

who then?

My poe makes me think max is one

Can you give your poe?

Some of it depends on this flip

I don't really think it's andres, or mom

I don't think datisi/GC are both scum together; if this is town I can see datisi being scum easily

vpb I've been trying to avoid going for, it's a maybe but probably not

I'm coming around on dgb/elements being town

I don't see a reason to townread max here so I'm getting suspicious regardless of the claim (which is not specified and easily fakeable)

Hm maybe all 9 of us are town

[Andresvmb]

Besides, what? Koba was NK’ed N1. And they had already slipped. What are you talking about?

Koba got a good long ways without slipping

So? They were still NK’ed N1. You would have discussed and decided that if Koba had a wrong player on their sights, the Scum could leverage that by executing there and leaving those bad crumbs behind. I still think Koba had some good insights I mean they were spot on about Lunar Martian / midwaybear. But yeah that could have been a play. I saw it last game I believe it was with Titus.

[RLotus]

VPB is the only candidate I see of "trapping andre into GC" since they were questioning him heavily. You were the fire starter for most of the day anyway I reckon, that's a pretty paranoid line of thought

[Andresvmb]

The Scum definitely think about these things. It’s either closest to solving/PR/best player to help craft future pushes.

[Andresvmb]

VPB is the only candidate I see of "trapping andre into GC" since they were questioning him heavily. You were the fire starter for most of the day anyway I reckon, that's a pretty paranoid line of thought

Look if GC flips Town, yeah you bet your ass I’m going to be paranoid.

[Andresvmb]

And it’s not necessarily trapping me specifically. It’s whoever goes backs and takes a look at Koba’s views. It happened to be me but it could have been anybody.

[Momrangal]

Of course Koba had good insights. Koba is Koba, but I don't understand where you are coming to the conclusion that scum expected you to follow Kobas back, and I don't like how you are using Kobas Kobas insights to avoid taking responsibility for anything.

And if even if Koba was wrong and fear killed (which I have seen happened) who even knows the two of you well enough to make such a big brain play

[RLotus]

The Scum definitely think about these things. It’s either closest to solving/PR/best player to help craft future pushes.

I thought about the RTP kill too because I was sure Datisi or VPB were dying. I also realized GC totally makes sense making that kill but Datisi does also because RTP/VPB were the towniest towns and they want VPB alive obviously.

[Andresvmb]

Of course Koba had good insights. Koba is Koba, but I don't understand where you are coming to the conclusion that scum expected you to follow Kobas back, and I don't like how you are using Kobas Kobas insights to avoid taking responsibility for anything.

You’re so obnoxious with this responsibility thing. I am taking responsibility for screwing up. But if we’re going to be in ELo, what does it matter really? We need to solve the game or lose. Do you want me to wallow in self-pity, or try and help out?

[Andresvmb]

The Scum definitely think about these things. It’s either closest to solving/PR/best player to help craft future pushes.

I thought about the RTP kill too because I was sure Datisi or VPB were dying. I also realized GC totally makes sense making that kill but Datisi does also because RTP/VPB were the towniest towns and they want VPB alive obviously.

Yeah and Datisi knows Koba’s style of play of course. It was indeed probably a fear kill. And they were becoming obvious Town. It is a shot I would have made too to be transparent.

[Momrangal]

And if even if Koba was wrong and fear killed (which I have seen happened) who even knows the two of you well enough to make such a big brain play

[Momrangal]

Maybe I would stop suspecting you when you stop responding to half my posts

[Andresvmb]

Maybe I would stop suspecting you when you stop responding to half my posts

You don’t read. I also said it didn’t have to be me.

[Dunnstral]

I didn't even realize dkkoba was in this game at one point, or what slot they had. Or more likely I just forgot. They're not listed on the OP

[Andresvmb]

And I don’t know why I’m the one responsible for making you feel better about my slot. You want me to take responsibility for my mistakes - you’ll have to take responsibility for your bad tunnel after the game.

[Momrangal]

If course i would much rather see you be productive and not whine but why point out the first half where I voice my issues and ignore the second half which is, by all accounts, a reach out in the chance that I am wrong about you.

I 100% recognize my biases against you and I don't want to be the reason town loses this game but that doesn't mean I am going to accept AtE as a reason to back off.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think it's elements/dgb slot off the top of my head

Maxwell needs to claim his role tomorrow

who then?

My poe makes me think max is one

Can you give your poe?

Some of it depends on this flip

I don't really think it's andres, or mom

I don't think datisi/GC are both scum together; if this is town I can see datisi being scum easily

vpb I've been trying to avoid going for, it's a maybe but probably not

I'm coming around on dgb/elements being town

I don't see a reason to townread max here so I'm getting suspicious regardless of the claim (which is not specified and easily fakeable)

Hm maybe all 9 of us are town

I wouldn't have hammered if I didn't think this had a good chance of flipping scum

And I listed a scumread

So that's 2/3, not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be