In post 361, LlamaFluff wrote:I can do this
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They are heavily misinterpreting Rathe (who has recently made it even more clear their thoughts) but those things happen. I was thinking the same thing for quite a while and now think I understand his theory on what happened early game. What bugs me more are two primary thing
1) Icon seems to just ignore that Rathe walked back the vote and agreed with an earlier statement of mine. While that would not really excuse a strong tell, it seems like a pretty major fact to ignore. If you just iso Icon, you would be pretty confident that Rathe is either heavily pushing my wagon, if not at least on it. Instead he is calling me town, which again was walked back under very little if any pressure. Really walked back just on me trying to figure out his thought process and motivations. It seems like the current location of Rathe's vote has zero impact on the case as far as Icon is concerned, which in turn is concerning itself. It feels more like a PR based read as it ignores things and seems overconfident. Since it cant be (as im pretty sure "Day" isnt a normal modifier)... becomes a bit two weak for me.
2) This entire thing is based on a misinterpretation (Rathe has recently confirmed such) and the massive back and forth between Icon and Dats could be solved by just asking a very direct question to Rathe. As already stated, I think its just an implied pronoun that caused all of this. Rathe took it one way, Icon and I took it the other way. Instead of flooding a few pages with an increasingly hostile and difficult to read back and forth, ask the question. It feels stubborn, by everyone involved in that. Stubborn is increasingly difficult to read because it turns into a back and forth noise loop that no one wants to deal with.
It just feels like Icon decided im town (when as Rathe pointed out "I wouldn't give too many townie points just for *trying to get serious*") and has been acting accordingly.
The fact that all of this has gone so far, especially since all that really needed to happen was a clear conversation with Rathe, is very annoying. If everyone involved in this exchange is town, im going be unhappy because it just means we added a ton of noise that gave us nothing.
@OW - In light of your original "This is all TvTvT" read, can you give a read on the Icon-Dats-Raeth thing and explain how it differs (if it does)?
@Luca - What is your read on Dats?
@Samantha - Does the Icon/Dats exchange change your reads on Raeth?
@Dats - Read on Samantha?
If they havent everyone should give a read of that big Icon-Dats-Raeth exchange. Im a little confused after how that just dominated so many pages how few are actually commenting on it.
