Two Day Penultimate Mafia (Abandoned)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just realize i asked you a question and then discredited your answer before you even gave it hahahaha sorry buddy

[Dunnstral]

I meant a different kind of pressure. Like, you're hinging the whole game on them having a correct read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh they could also just be scum dude

[Dunnstral]

uh they could also just be scum dude

Sure, but that wasn't what I was talking about, and you're fearmongering for no reason

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have the appropriate level of fear

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Sorry, Pooky but your plan is not good and a majority of people have rejected it. Instaed of pushing this plan you can either a)scumhunt or b) formulate a more workable plan. Continueing pushing this plan with the time limit we face is not good for town. I am open to opinion on Proffesor Emotion overall game play and whether we or not they area a
good target for the kill for the day.

[Inser Cool Name Here]

well there goes my secret idenity..... boo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

most people haven't said anything about The Plan one way or the other.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"but your plan is not good"

is an assertion without any backing

do you have a better plan or a reason why my plan is bad?

[DkKoba]

do you scumread morph?

[Salsabil Faria]

I will post tomorrow here.

[Inser Cool Name Here]

1) if Cabd is town it doesnt mean he will catch scum day one. They could be having an off day and not be playing at the ultimate level
2) Cabd could accidently cause a mislynch as town. If we kill them then we are only have one shot left
3) I do not like the idea of a leader having total control. Its to risky and dangerous especially in a setup like this
D) You could be scum and setting up for the fall.

[morph the cat]

where are u at morph?

I thought we would get a chance to synch last night, but it didn't happen. We'll probably get time to talk about the game today, but I'm going to to fly solo until that happens. So, you'll get ffery thoughts after I do some rereading.

In that vein:

Ydrasse is just a slot that I'd expect to radiate scumvibes if she were scum, but she's simply put...not radiating those scum vibes to me, which makes me worried that she might be town. That said, given that I am placing a large amount of trust in Pooky and Hectic here and both are slots I expect to be able to soulread Ydrasse, I'm willing to defer to them on her; if they think that she's scum, I'll sheep them on that read.

@everyone:

I'm pretty sure this is in upside down nomenclature, but who here is able to soulread Ydrasse?

[Ydrasse]

there are like 2 people here who could do it

i haven't given much to go on though, haven't really felt this game much

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you scumread morph?

yea

1) initial reaction was stilted - felt like they were discussing in hydra best way to react instead of just reacting naturally - implies guilty mindset - both players are more than capable of responding naturally to me without needing to consult the other.

2) mostly reactive posting - very little pro-active scum hunting.

3) didn't have enthusiastic response to being BoP'd - felt like they immediately went to the excuses I'd expect scum!them to go to.

4) victimization mindset / threats.

5) too fast to townread me - feels more like attempt to diffuse suspicion than actual alignment sorting - cabd/fiery both know I am very capable of hyper-aggression immediately from start of game.

[Ydrasse]

honestly if i was town and got bop'd i'd be like "nah no thanks" bc picking wrong and that leading into an elim tomorrow would feel real bad

that being said i havent even read those excuses you speak of

[Profgessor Emotion]

btw cabd is 100% right when he says this plan is unfun and steals agency from everyone else playing the game

thats actually the entire point of the plan..

minimize scum influence on the game by concentrating power in the hands of one person who is guaranteed to be town by virtue of their impending death.

it's also exactly the complaint cabd-scum would bring up to shoot the plan down because he fears death :>

I'm pretty sure that was ffer and as much as I town read them, I cant really endorse this plan. It amounts to bullying first off, imo and secondly both heads would respond to BOP in that manner.

Thirdly, considering the fact that Ffer hates drawing town and is burnt out means that at the very least her head will be readable.

I also don't understand why you're pushing the burden on just them when this game is filled skilled players

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what how is this bullying :/

[morph the cat]

Reread thoughts:

'm by far the easier morph head to read. I should be used to a higher bar in this hydra, but I'm not and it always surprises me to be BoPed.

nobody really tried to take advantage of the BoP plan, except maybe Infinity? I feel like there should be more sortable data generated from this push/plan than I'm seeing. I

Strongest mafia reads are koba and toxi. pooky read is also mafia, though not as strong. I have a ton of angst about him and feel like he has more than enough experience with me to correctly read my reactions here.

Slight Mafia on Dunnstral, and maybe mastina though I expect her to correctly read us, especially me, much more than pooky.

I feel like I should have a stronger opinion of Infinity than I do, given the amount of posts. misreading them while I was spectating the draft game makes me cautious.

Other thoughts are pretty amorphous and I want a reality check from Cabd.

[morph the cat]

I'm pretty sure that was ffer

Yeah that was a ffery post.

From a couple comments he's made, I think Cabd believes there's useful data generated from reactions to the plan. I'm probably too tilted to interpret data like that right now.

[morph the cat]

what how is this bullying :/

Oh hey guess what!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think it speaks to how high of a regard I hold for Cabd's scum/town play that I would even propose such a plan for him.

I'm not sure where you get this "I'm bullying them" msg from? :/

also <3 Fiery :3

[DkKoba]

im getting coalition 1 vibes from pooky this game

[Toxic 1v1er]

Infinity you town?

Yes

should've said mafia sucker :3

lol gotem

[Toxic 1v1er]

Infinity?town? I don't like that defeatist attitude.

I like it actually, only having two opportunities to launch an agent is a daunting prospect for mafia. I think it's fine.