What do you mean? Did Kanna think it was me?In post 7095, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:But what about us listening to dead town? I’m not risking the wrath of Kanna.In post 7081, Dunnstral wrote:I think it's clidd but I don't have the motivation to argue for it
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That's not safe. By claiming vanilla, they're restricting themselves to drive themselves each night to not be caught by the vanilla cop. If they did that for whatever reason, the vanilla cop would die earlier than they did.In post 7099, Dunnstral wrote:Bus driver can self target, so it's safe for them to claim vanilla. Mafia didn't know that the vanilla cop would get the name of the person they investigated.
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We know that didn’t happen D3 and 4. Only day we don’t is N2 but I strongly suspect it was S & W.In post 7099, Dunnstral wrote:Bus driver can self target, so it's safe for them to claim vanilla. Mafia didn't know that the vanilla cop would get the name of the person they investigated.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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She was adamant about it not being Clidd.In post 7100, Dunnstral wrote:
What do you mean? Did Kanna think it was me?In post 7095, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
But what about us listening to dead town? I’m not risking the wrath of Kanna.In post 7081, Dunnstral wrote:I think it's clidd but I don't have the motivation to argue for it**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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+1In post 7101, Pyro wrote:
That's not safe. By claiming vanilla, they're restricting themselves to drive themselves each night to not be caught by the vanilla cop. If they did that for whatever reason, the vanilla cop would die earlier than they did.In post 7099, Dunnstral wrote:Bus driver can self target, so it's safe for them to claim vanilla. Mafia didn't know that the vanilla cop would get the name of the person they investigated.
And alternatively, the bus driver could just claim anything that wasn't vanilla, and then they don't have to worry about being caught or driving themselves (which is what you did).
Why does scum take the chance with Koba alive? I could maybe understand if scum thought M & R were crumbling something but we know for certain scum knew that REK was mason, so why does fake claiming scum vt, kill REK > Koba. How could they be certain that they wouldn’t change their mind and cop the scum bus driver with the fake vanilla claim?**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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I think it has to be Dunn. No way does vanilla cop not die asap if scum bus driver is faking a vanilla. If I or any of my buddies are any kind of scum PR and I/them are fakeclaiming vanilla, no way in hell do I worry about whacking a lurky mason. Vanilla cop 100% dies the first night if scum has a bus driver fakeclaiming vanilla.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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100%In post 7107, Pink Ball wrote:Pyro are you absolutely sure you want to do this? You're not convincing me tomorrow, you're just postponing the inevitable, just borrowing time.
The effort wouldn't be worth it here for me as scum.
Dunny's recognised that fact and given up as a result - he has no motivation left to case or argue clidd as scum despite knowing that from his PoV this game would be a loss if he gets mislaunched today and I tomorrow. Does town!Dunny really resign to the loss so easily?
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These were very empty wordsIn post 7059, Dunnstral wrote:If we're going to elim me today, fine, but I want to talk about clidd vs pyro today and not in final 3-
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Pyro's case is subjective. If you read with the assumption "Dunn is scum" as true, the connections make sense, but if you try to judge what is being talked about impartially, there are alternative explanations for most of the events, but to argue about it would be to enter a completely speculative field whose conclusion will depend on the interpretation of who is reading. So the way Dunn is handling/reacting to the case is more suggestive in terms of alignment than the case itself.-
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Hum.. I'm trying to understand Dunn's reaction here.
In my imagination, Town!Dunn would probably look at Pyro's scumcase, obviously knowing that the conclusion is incorrect, but seeing the reasoning as too composed to be a cognitive effort coming from scum trying to forge a scum!Dunn theory, especially knowing that the game doesn't end today, which makes me think that town!Dunn would also see Pyro as town, consequently leading him to think that the last scum would be me by PoE and then leading him to reread the game/my ISO to identify points/posts that could give more substance to his scum!Clidd PoE solve, but his line of action was: deny> make little effort> call Fey's pov over me again> vague comments. No gamesolving at all.-
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Which, as I said in a previous post, can be coming from town with a great apathetic level, or scum who is acting apathetically to try to be interpreted as apathetic town. In the context of Pyro accusing Dunn, however, I believe the reaction is unusual and not compatible with what town!Dunn should be thinking imo at the moment in an evaluative sense.-
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It would be easier if Dunn expands everything he's thinking about the game and demonstrates his reasoning. If he's coming from a town mentality, we will be able to identify. If not, nothing is going to change.
As the game is rn, I'm inclined to consider Pyro as more likely to be town than Dunn, but unfortunately I still couldn't see anything that I could attribute exclusively to town!Pyro (and lock him).
So it's on Dunn now to act if he's town, otherwise my perception still points (60%) to Pyro being town here.-
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I dont see any panicking (or at least any other kind of sign from Dunn) that we're throwing the game we had an advantage in away by letting scum!clidd slip away. Dunn obviously can't just say it's Pyro as scum, either
Theres a certain mindset you usually get into when the game is lost from your town PoV and you're one of the miselims, it has the power to get you really into it at times
Dunn doesn't give the appearance of a frustrated townie (As Kid did) either
He just seems like scum who cant do anything without giving it massive effort and even then there'd be no promise of winning
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Thanks again @Clidd, I’m very sure Kanna is smiling rn in the dead thread.
Let me break this down for you guys.
Dunn would have you believe the following:
Scum bus driver fake vanilla claimed in a game with a vanilla cop and town role stop.
They did this because bus driver self-targeting is apparently so much easier than you know fake claiming TPR.
Scum decided that they could 100% trust that Koba was going to not cop them N2 or N3.
Scum decided that a lurky mason who probably didn’t even know what was going on in the game was a much bigger threat than the vanilla cop that could totally bust their game up.
Scum was so terrified of REK that they decided to switch them with Toog.
Scum thought it’d be fun to try to play chicken by trying to play Russian Roulette and try by attempting to run up Clidd with 100% confidence that I would never seriously take them up on that.
Scum thought it would be cute to use reverse psychology and give their blessing for vanilla cop to target their bus driver despite that doing everything under the sun to get their 1 shot dayvig rolestopped.
Scum is either suicidal or likes to play dangerously because you know it’s not a real victory if you don’t make the odds of playing to your wincon so much harder than necessary.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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Right, Kidd really did sound super frustrated. And if you consider game balance, we have a one shot night skipper to go along with scum 1 shot dayvig but remember I had a strongwilled disloyal 1 shot vig and Dunn also only claimed odd night doc after Gamma claimed even night rolestopper.In post 7117, Morning Tweet wrote:I dont see any panicking (or at least any other kind of sign from Dunn) that we're throwing the game we had an advantage in away by letting scum!clidd slip away. Dunn obviously can't just say it's Pyro as scum, either
Theres a certain mindset you usually get into when the game is lost from your town PoV and you're one of the miselims, it has the power to get you really into it at times
Dunn doesn't give the appearance of a frustrated townie (As Kid did) either
He just seems like scum who cant do anything without giving it massive effort and even then there'd be no promise of winning
I have not actually reviewed the case itself but just its existence and the response are possibly more telling anyway
Also Pyro confidently willing to die if Dunn flips town (and Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and Easter bunny are all real you guize) rarely comes from scum. Tweetie is mech clear and PB and Clidd by anti associatives.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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In post 7115, clidd wrote:It would be easier if Dunn expands everything he's thinking about the game and demonstrates his reasoning. If he's coming from a town mentality, we will be able to identify. If not, nothing is going to change.
As the game is rn, I'm inclined to consider Pyro as more likely to be town than Dunn, but unfortunately I still couldn't see anything that I could attribute exclusively to town!Pyro (and lock him).
So it's on Dunn now to act if he's town, otherwise my perception still points (60%) to Pyro being town here.If scum bus driver is amongst the vt claims, REK doesn’t get switched with Toog N3 unless scum also has a rolestopper/alien.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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In post 7088, Pyro wrote:I'm excited, I have the fireworks ready to go
+1In post 7085, Pyro wrote:Let's win the game!!!!!!!!**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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Who will volunteer to be my 3 heroes and win this for town?In post 7018, Alisae wrote:Clidd
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