MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[Raya36]

I'm still leaning towards Mahi is messing around. Scum would try to blend in a bit better and not obvscum?

Maybe if this wasn't GI then sure.

You mean in GIM scum are more likely to act how they are?

[Korina]

Korina is mafia/werewolf/cult who felt the need to lie about their cult pick to downplay it's power level and to not have us fear the possibility of them getting cult

Korina's made like 153774739 cult roles in the grand idea thread and 90% of them are better than a boring 1-shot deathproof cult leader

-mahi

Most of my cult roles become vanilla Cult Leader if there is no Cult Leader in the game. FMPOV, I’m the *only* one submitting cult, so I *have* to pick CL. I also want to maximize my chances of survival as CL, so I pick deathproof. Deathproof renders me immune to one death, whether elimination, dayvig, nk, or anything. *Once.* Anyone saying that’s broken is just wrong about it. If you try to eliminate me, you know I can’t be eliminated at day, so a vigi shoots me. If I get shot at night by a vigi, they just claim and you elim me.

[Korina]

My only two real picks for cult are either 1-Shot Deathproof CL, or Elite CL. I don’t ever pick a vanilla CL, and if I could guarantee someone else was picking Cult, I’d opt for one of my other roles.

[VFP]

You mean in GIM scum are more likely to act how they are?

Yes

[Raya36]

yeah this is GIM but mahi still seems way too confident on their reads.

Like this is Day freaking 1 and you're already throwing out innos?! Da heck?

You could be right but I take early posts giving innos or guilties very very lightly

[Korina]

I think everyone trying to push for my d1 elim is scum, and I’m going to shoot you.

[Raya36]

then again I'm arguing based on tone now, but mahi still seems to have a scummy push on Korina

Maybe they can confirm if their Korina read is serious or not too

[CaptainS]

If I had to guess right now.

mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum

Well your guess would be wrong on me for a start

[VFP]

So how votes is korina on?

[mahimahi]

Okay, cool. Korina doubling down on it rather than coming clean is a scumclaim

You pick any of these cult leaders over your claimed one, Korina:

Day 1-3 Actual Deathproof Cult Leader

This role literally cannot die in any way, shape, or form until Day 4.

Ask Korina for a Cult-Aligned Role

Literally PM Korina and ask them for a cult role. Use whatever he says.

KCC is in effect for this role.

Motivated Actually Deathproof D4 Cult Leader

Can target two people each night, cannot be killed whatsoever until D4. Normal cult leader.

Strongwilled Alignment-Change-Immune Cult Leader

Ability cannot be prevented, nor prevented.
This player’s faction cannot be changed in any way, shape, or form, except through a modkill. This effect takes place as soon as the role is rolled.

-mahi

[Raya36]

I tried for wolf twilight extender and didnt get it.

Evil

[mahimahi]

(just examples, there's many more in their ISO)

-mahi

[samantha97]

2 is redundant 1/3 would get vetoed 4 is worse than 1 shot deathproof imo

[mahimahi]

I think everyone trying to push for my d1 elim is scum, and I’m going to shoot you.

Fear mongering

Korina is literally flipped scum

-mahi

[Korina]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200

Just read this

Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things

-mahi

This gets rejected by Ircher, and I probably get sent a Vanilla CL PM, if I roll cult. Why do I risk possibly getting vanilla, when I can take a guaranteed role?

So how votes is korina on?

By my count, three, but I may have missed one.

Pedit:

Okay, cool. Korina doubling down on it rather than coming clean is a scumclaim

You pick any of these cult leaders over your claimed one, Korina:

Day 1-3 Actual Deathproof Cult Leader

This role literally cannot die in any way, shape, or form until Day 4.

Ask Korina for a Cult-Aligned Role

Literally PM Korina and ask them for a cult role. Use whatever he says.

KCC is in effect for this role.

Motivated Actually Deathproof D4 Cult Leader

Can target two people each night, cannot be killed whatsoever until D4. Normal cult leader.

Strongwilled Alignment-Change-Immune Cult Leader

Ability cannot be prevented, nor prevented.
This player’s faction cannot be changed in any way, shape, or form, except through a modkill. This effect takes place as soon as the role is rolled.

-mahi

First gets rejected. Second I’d sent back deathproof elite cl, which probably gets rejected. Third gets rejected. Fourth is plausible, but I don’t wanna die n1 to a nk, so fear of that makes me pick actual deathproof.

[mahimahi]

2 is redundant 1/3 would get vetoed 4 is worse than 1 shot deathproof imo

How do you know they'd be vetoed?

Is Korina claimed they tried to submit something better and it was vetoed? No. They're claiming they primarily went for 1-shot deathproof

-mahi

[Raya36]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200

Just read this

Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things

-mahi

I don't think a role like that would have been allowed and picking that as your other would have guaranteed them to not get that alignment

[samantha97]

How do you know they'd be vetoed?
-mahi

did ya forget my role got nerfed

[mahimahi]

First gets rejected. Second I’d sent back deathproof elite cl, which probably gets rejected. Third gets rejected. Fourth is plausible, but I don’t wanna die n1 to a nk, so fear of that makes me pick actual deathproof.

See

All hypotheticals of what'd get rejected. You expect me to believe our cult loving fanatic doesn't even

try

to submit these and see what happens?

Naaaaah

-mahi

[Korina]

2 is redundant 1/3 would get vetoed 4 is worse than 1 shot deathproof imo

How do you know they'd be vetoed?

Is Korina claimed they tried to submit something better and it was vetoed? No. They're claiming they primarily went for 1-shot deathproof

-mahi

...
Explain why a cl who is guaranteed to get three/six recruits without dying, is a perfectly acceptable role?

[Raya36]

You mean in GIM scum are more likely to act how they are?

Yes

Depending on their role I guess I partially agree

[Korina]

VOTE: mahimahi

If this isn’t killed today, I shoot them tonight. There is no discussion on this IMO.
I submit Elite CL and pray for a doctor cult, or Deathproof and pray I get ignored. I don’t ever submit an OP role like that because I know for a fact Ircher will deny it. I designed those roles solely to be broken.

[VFP]

Well your guess would be wrong on me for a start

Okay I believe you.
Locktown

[Korina]

Not to mention, let’s say I submit them. Ircher would likely render it 1-shot deathproof anyways, so what’s the point?

[mahimahi]

So many assumptions, so many lies. We both know you at least try for something more busted, Korina, or ask Ircher

If we don't get Korina today, scum need to strongman them tonight to stop the culting from happening

We MUST COME TOGETHER to stop the brainwashing

-mahi