Open 808: The Council Has Spoken


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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 664, Enchant wrote:Eh? No killing is stupid?
No killing is stupid when you know that you can get away with the No kill.

No killing is also stupid when you have a decent chance to beleive that you won't be the target.

If I were scum on the council, I would opt to kill Yessiree to remove the conftown
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:15 am

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Right now its 1:7

Last night, it was 1:7

If a kill happened today we would be at 1:6

If scum kill, they reduce the amount of eliminations needed to win by half. If yessus was killed last night,

Tbone
BM
Raya

Would probably all be suspect

But

1:6
1:4
1:2

The scum on council could safely eliminate the other two before entering Lylo

Or they could eliminate off council once before Elo and they have a solid chance to win at Elo
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 675, Artemiana wrote:
In post 664, Enchant wrote:Eh? No killing is stupid?
No killing is stupid when you know that you can get away with the No kill.

No killing is also stupid when you have a decent chance to beleive that you won't be the target.

If I were scum on the council, I would opt to kill Yessiree to remove the conftown
... To produce another one. Tracked one.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:18 am

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If you were mafia, you would kill Yessiree-confirmed townie and then produce ANOTHER confirmed townie, who is... Who is tracked again, i forgot but actually no matter.

You kill one confirmed townie. You make one confirmed townie. Unless you kill tracked person, that's it.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:21 am

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You kill conftown as it happens on lylo depending on things you might have to deal with one existing
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:22 am

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Actually, it becomes a vanilla set up on d4 so no. All conf town will be gone
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:36 am

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In post 676, Artemiana wrote:Right now its 1:7

Last night, it was 1:7

If a kill happened today we would be at 1:6

If scum kill, they reduce the amount of eliminations needed to win by half. If yessus was killed last night,

Tbone
BM
Raya

Would probably all be suspect

But

1:6
1:4
1:2

The scum on council could safely eliminate the other two before entering Lylo

Or they could eliminate off council once before Elo and they have a solid chance to win at Elo
What makes you think scum will kill tonight?
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:46 am

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I don't think it is a good idea to no kill.

My assumption is that scum did kill last night, but they targeted BM
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:55 am

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If they are outside of council, they will never know who is tracked. So, they will not know who is confirmed townie, before Council say it.

So yeah, council probably can get away with that... Hmm.

Either way, that's dead getaway that mafia was in Council.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 682, Artemiana wrote:I don't think it is a good idea to no kill.

My assumption is that scum did kill last night, but they targeted BM
I could see this. And if this is the case then obviously the whole council is town.

Honestly, I think my paranoia got me side tracked. I'm probably wrong about T-Bone being scum. Sorry if I offended you T-Bone.

I guess my PoE under this assumption is {yessiree, nono, mozamis}
Nono was early on the A50 wagon. So I'd be ok with yessiree or mozamis
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:05 pm

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Under that assumption, Yessiree would have been tracked to the failed kill and thus under that assumption, yessiree is conftown
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:57 pm

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Yes you're correct. So then my top suspect would be Moz under the assumption scum targeted BM
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:03 pm

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In post 280, Almost50 wrote:
In post 252, T-Bone wrote:Can we keep yesiree and mozamis off of all councils, please?
You're clipping both my wings and asking me to fly here. Aside from them two, I only have you as a
confident
TR. And -even worse- I am not allowed to heal myself, so I can't even use the global TR on BM option to complete my trio.

Well, the closest to a TR aside from the above is Raya I guess, and I won't fight against an Enchant council membership, but then I feel like I'm "giving in" and when that happens I am highly likely to misread a scumster as a townie.

Wait! That does look like a read list of some sort. Let me try to put it in a more readable form:

T-Bone/mozamis
yessiree

BM/Raya/Enchant

Nono/Artemiana

If I use my super intellectual gift I'd say one scum in BM/Raya/Enchant and the other is in Nono/Atemiana (but don't quote me on any of that yet. I'll only take responsibility of my reads on the top 3 so far)
In post 450, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Nono

I can also do Artem, but nobody's voting her
In post 511, Almost50 wrote:
In post 460, Artemiana wrote:
In post 450, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Nono

I can also do Artem, but nobody's voting her
Mmm...

Why do you do this?

Like...

You start off passive aggressive and then out of no where it's like OH NO, NONONO PLZPLZPLZ

OLZPLZPLZ LETS DO SOMETHING ELSE!

Why do you continue to play the woe is me card? Even when you went against the council you thought BM and I were both scum which is pretty ridiculous imo. Considering you successfully kicked me off, I would imagine you have the capacity to push this much harder?
ISO me. You and Nono are my 2 main suspects. The two at the very bottom of my reads. I didn't even keep it a secret.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:04 pm

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In post 675, Artemiana wrote:
In post 664, Enchant wrote:Eh? No killing is stupid?
No killing is stupid when you know that you can get away with the No kill.

No killing is also stupid when you have a decent chance to beleive that you won't be the target.

If I were scum on the council, I would opt to kill Yessiree to remove the conftown
In post 676, Artemiana wrote:Right now its 1:7

Last night, it was 1:7

If a kill happened today we would be at 1:6

If scum kill, they reduce the amount of eliminations needed to win by half. If yessus was killed last night,

Tbone
BM
Raya

Would probably all be suspect

But

1:6
1:4
1:2

The scum on council could safely eliminate the other two before entering Lylo

Or they could eliminate off council once before Elo and they have a solid chance to win at Elo
no, no killing is perfectly valid,, if someone killed yessir, the pool would immediately become the council,, lim all three to win)
so much confidence btw,, it's not easy to get rid of the poe and become confscum)

anyway, still think it's bone,, frustration is fine and wish them nothing but the best, but, to me, it looks like frustration of getting caught for the wrong reasons etc etc
it's just that easy)
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:27 pm

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lol you couldn't catch me for the right reasons, let alone the wrong ones
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:32 am

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Council Voting 2.01
Artemiana, Battle Mage, Enchant (5):
, , , ,
Raya36, Enchant, Artemiana (1):

Raya36, Enchant, T-Bone (1):

mozamis, Battle Mage, Enchant (1):



Remember, a valid vote for council will be three players within a heal tag, the council will be locked in when 5 players propose the same three person council.


A Council for Night 2 of Battle Mage, Artemiana and Enchant has been selected, and no votes for them will be acknowledged. They will receive a link at the start of Night 2 for their private thread.


Elim Voting 2.01
T-Bone (2):
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mozamis (1):

Nono (1):


Not Voting (4):
Enchant, mozamis, Raya36,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 will end without a council or an elimination in (expired on 2021-04-12 08:50:00)
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:30 am

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catching up tomorrow night
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:23 am

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In post 670, T-Bone wrote:
In post 669, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 651, T-Bone wrote:
In post 641, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 611, Nono wrote:problem with 602 (above) is t-bone's no doc plan is not bad, getting info on whether it's no-kill or not is useful,, it's just not useful for much else
painting it as that piviotal,, don't think it should be, leans scum
this i don't understand,, perhaps explained by perspective difference
In post 602, T-Bone wrote:If no one got killed, then it basically confirms one of us as scum
I think I've explained this above now, but to reiterate it makes zero sense in this setup, and this situation to NOT use the tracker ability when it is effectively a cop. I'm less precious about the protective, but it does seem a bit counter-intuitive to give scum a free-kill.
Are you trying to suggest I didn't want to use the track?
I'm not "trying to suggest" anything - you have already acknowledged in this thread that you wanted to use the track on somebody within the council, which is tantamount (well, not quite, but almost) to not using it.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Speed eliminate this please. Absolute insanity, this is scum.
This is an invalid vote when it was made. I don't want to hear that I have missed it.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:11 am

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Havent caught up, but council looks ok.
Raya looked super bland and scummy
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:19 am

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In post 674, T-Bone wrote:I just...I apologize for being frustrated.
YEAH I SHOULD USE THIS FOR MY SIG...aaah caps
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:23 am

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In post 685, Artemiana wrote:Under that assumption, Yessiree would have been tracked to the failed kill and thus under that assumption, yessiree is conftown
so refresh my menory, who was tracked? yessiree?
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:26 am

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Yessiree was tracked to no one
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 686, Raya36 wrote:Yes you're correct. So then my top suspect would be Moz under the assumption scum targeted BM
@ Raya I'm town, so something is wrong with your logic somewhere.
Or you are indeed a Scummy Scum McScum Fuck. Last Known Address: TwatFace House, McScumVille - Arizona.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:33 am

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In post 697, mozamis wrote:
In post 686, Raya36 wrote:Yes you're correct. So then my top suspect would be Moz under the assumption scum targeted BM
@ Raya I'm town, so something is wrong with your logic somewhere.
Or you are indeed a Scummy Scum McScum Fuck. Last Known Address: TwatFace House, McScumVille - Arizona.
If I'm wrong then Nono would be the second suspect even though they were early on the A50 wagon. Or I can't work under the assumption that scum targeted BM and instead no-killed. In which case my pool is {moz, yessiree, nono, tbone}
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:35 am

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You think tbone would choose to no kill know he isn't tracked?

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