Open 81 - The New C9 - Game Over

[farside22]

farside replaces Battlemage effective immediately. She has let me know that she may not be able to read the thread prior to deadline though.

The deadline will be in about 13 hours time.

This is true. Rogueben ask if I could replace, but weekend are very hectic for me. I will try and read as much as I can, but the time frame for deadline could not be worse for me.

[ting =)]

@korts.
Strife mentioned thinking both me and fonz are town earlier on i think. Only fonz and sc have explicitly said they think i'm scum. The only other vote on me is you, who also never expressed ting-scum sentiment.

If i switch my vote to bm, or if you switch your vote to bm, he gets lynched instead of me. I feel that one of either me or fonz needs to be today's lynch though, for reasons I've already said, so i'm not switching mine.

[strife220]

FYI, I'd switch my vote to Fonz or Orange to avoid a Ting or Korts lynch.

Why would you defend ting?

Because I don't think he's scum, as I've discussed 2 or 3 times already.

[Korts]

FYI, I'd switch my vote to Fonz or Orange to avoid a Ting or Korts lynch.

Why would you defend ting?

Because I don't think he's scum, as I've discussed 2 or 3 times already.

Right... I seemed to remember you stating that you sided with Fonz in their argument, but it looks like I got you mixed up with SC. Sorry.

I definitely think that what ting's saying is true, one of either ting or Fonz should be the lynch today, because until their argument is eliminated, town won't be even making an effort to scumhunt. I'd rather not switch to BM (now farside) though, seeing as he'd been replaced now. If it comes to it, I'm pretty happy with either Fonz or ting, since I'm not convinced either way.

[strife220]

So if Ting dies and flips town, what conclusion are you going to make tomorrow?

[Korts]

So if Ting dies and flips town, what conclusion are you going to make tomorrow?

I seriously don't know yet. I'm gonna reread the whole ting-Fonz argument with the knowledge that ting believed he was right.

[forbiddanlight]

I see Ting and Fonz as town vs. town to be honest. I like a BM lynch...but with a replacement, it would be both unsporting and also unwise to push for that lynch til farside has spoken since she might be able to defend herself, or at least present her views to be examined if we lynch her later. So...

Unvote

...I'm kinda stumped now .

[farside22]

I see Ting and Fonz as town vs. town to be honest. I like a BM lynch...but with a replacement, it would be both unsporting and also unwise to push for that lynch til farside has spoken since she might be able to defend herself, or at least present her views to be examined if we lynch her later. So...

Unvote

...I'm kinda stumped now .

You can ask me some questions if you think it would help. Right now it's looking like I'm not getting a break any time soon. At least a long enough break to read 50 pages.

[strife220]

So if Ting dies and flips town, what conclusion are you going to make tomorrow?

I seriously don't know yet. I'm gonna reread the whole ting-Fonz argument with the knowledge that ting believed he was right.

Saying that we should lynch one or the other today heavily implies that one or the other must be scum. The argument between the two is tiring, but only distracting if town focuses on it. Almost everyone's been ignoring it until recently, when you claimed doc and everybody decided Ting would be lynched simply because Fonz was already voting him.

Unvote, Vote: Orangepenguin

because I'm the only one voting BM at this point.
That's two votes Orangepenguin, 3 votse Ting. Deadline's in a few hours so if anybody on the Ting-wagon wants to switch to Penguin, he will be the lynch.

[Korts]

Remind me what the case on OP is.

[strife220]

The case is that Ting is unlikely scum, therefore, lynching someone that isn't Ting > lynching Ting.

[Korts]

And you choose OP based solely on number of votes, right?

Well, I can go for that, too. This game needs a kick in the balls.

unvote, vote: orangepenguin

[StrangerCoug]

I don't have reason to believe that orangepenguin is scum, though. My vote will stand on ting =).

Why I want silence dead involves orangepenguin, though, so anybody who objects to my vigging the former and making the mod's replacement job easier had better speak up now.

[strife220]

And you choose OP based solely on number of votes, right?

Basically. Orangepenguin has contributed very little to the game, while Ting has been relatively active and I believe GS's argument with IAUN is a towntell.

[StrangerCoug]

And you choose OP based solely on number of votes, right?

Basically. Orangepenguin has contributed very little to the game, while Ting has been relatively active and I believe GS's argument with IAUN is a towntell.

Remind me to hurt you if orangepenguin flips town and ting =) turns out to be scum.

[Korts]

And you choose OP based solely on number of votes, right?

Basically. Orangepenguin has contributed very little to the game, while Ting has been relatively active and I believe GS's argument with IAUN is a towntell.

Remind me to hurt you if orangepenguin flips town and ting =) turns out to be scum.

I'm having a hard time figuring out why this post seems scummy to me.

[StrangerCoug]

As I said, I don't see the case on orangepenguin. If orangepenguin gets lynched instead of ting =), the latter is getting vigged instead of silence, i.e. ting =) will

NOT

live to see tomorrow if I can help it. That's final.

strife220's post #1238 reads like a deflection to me, but for that to be valid, ting =) must die.

[Korts]

Dammit. Forgot you're the confirmed vig. Nevermind that, then.

[StrangerCoug]

Dammit. Forgot you're the confirmed vig. Nevermind that, then.

It would be blasphemy for a doctor to protect a power role, forget he did so, and then kill the power role off,

ESPECIALLY

if said doctor is responsible for said power role still being alive.

[Korts]

that's it shame me

[orangepenguin]

Explain to me where the case on me is, other than me contributing less than ting =)?

Basically, people were voting ting, because they thought he was more scummy than Korts the doc, and now people are voting me, because I am more scummy than ting? Is that it?

I think ting =) is grasping at straws right now. The deadline is tomorrow, and he's freaking out. I didn't think ting =) was that scummy, but I did think Greasy Spot was.

Vote: ting=)

To be honest, this won't the first game where I have been lynched for being "unhelpful" and contributed little. In those games (N639, Reality Mafia) I flipped town. If you're basing your vote on my relatively lazy unhelpfulness, I'm sorry, but that's how I play. I'm trying (very badly I might add) to change that, and be a better player. If you think I'm not giving content, ask Ben to replace me, but for some reason, this always happens to me - I get lynched on my playstyle with no case on me and flip town.

[orangepenguin]

Actually, ting =) was part of the people who mislynched me in N639 Day 1 and farside (I think) was part of the people who mislynched me Day 5? in Reality Mafia, and therefore lost the game. Interesting.

[StrangerCoug]

As I said, I don't see the case on orangepenguin. If orangepenguin gets lynched instead of ting =), the latter is getting vigged instead of silence, i.e. ting =) will

NOT

live to see tomorrow if I can help it. That's final.

Actually, that's not final. I think it's better to have this as a plan:

• If anybody other than ting =) and strife220 gets lynched, I'm killing ting =) tonight and voting strife220 tomorrow.
  
• If ting =) dies and flips scum, strife220 is my vig target.
  
• If ting =) dies and flips town (which I doubt), silence will remain my vig target and strife220 is cleared of my suspicion, at least for the time being.

strife220 is simply buddying up to ting =) more than my liking.

HoS: strife220

[strife220]

As I said, I don't see the case on orangepenguin. If orangepenguin gets lynched instead of ting =), the latter is getting vigged instead of silence, i.e. ting =) will

NOT

live to see tomorrow if I can help it. That's final.

Actually, that's not final. I think it's better to have this as a plan:

• If anybody other than ting =) and strife220 gets lynched, I'm killing ting =) tonight and voting strife220 tomorrow.
  
• If ting =) dies and flips scum, strife220 is my vig target.
  
• If ting =) dies and flips town (which I doubt), silence will remain my vig target and strife220 is cleared of my suspicion, at least for the time being.

strife220 is simply buddying up to ting =) more than my liking.

HoS: strife220

So, you've actually

read

the GreasySpot-IAUN interaction from Day 1 and really think it's distancing? Please go read it again...

[The Fonz]

'm finding his arguments so dishonest

that's bull. i even quoted your contradictions, but i'm honestly just so tired of going back and forth with you i'm not going to try to hinder my lynch.

Which were themselves bull. It was you, and not me who contradicted himself.

So, you've actually

read

the GreasySpot-IAUN interaction from Day 1 and really think it's distancing? Please go read it again...

What, you mean when the amount of aggro is disproportionate to the strength of the actual case, you mean? Like how is a really common bussing technique?