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Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:24 am

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Waiting for A50, but:

VOTE: Titus

Town!Titus would have read my interactions with Gera and came to the conclusion that the chance of T|S was low.
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Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:27 am

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I think it's both so unless A50 has anything for us I'll go either but I'd prefer a Flea.
A50 might actually have a result here. Otherwise I'm not sure why Pooky is killed over A50. Pooky gives a confirmed town, A50 gives a most likely town.
And either cause probably the same doubt on each other.

Maybe this just means scum have a scum doctor and it wasn't with Lotus. A50 having a read today will lock Lotus as town for me.
A50 not having a read won't impact my town (small potential scum) read on Lotus though.
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Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 2701, VFP wrote:I think it's both so unless A50 has anything for us I'll go either but I'd prefer a Flea.
A50 might actually have a result here. Otherwise I'm not sure why Pooky is killed over A50. Pooky gives a confirmed town, A50 gives a most likely town.
And either cause probably the same doubt on each other.

Maybe this just means scum have a scum doctor and it wasn't with Lotus. A50 having a read today will lock Lotus as town for me.
A50 not having a read won't impact my town (small potential scum) read on Lotus though.
You literally just said why Pooky is a better target than A50.

Also whats with the scumdoc vibe you seem obsessed with?
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Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:01 am

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In post 2702, Flea The Magician wrote:You literally just said why Pooky is a better target than A50.

Also whats with the scumdoc vibe you seem obsessed with?
No?
Pooky gives a confirmed town.
A50 doesn't.

They match on shade.

My personal view is about the scum doctor but I doubt you and Titus were talking about what I would and wouldn't like, last night.

My obsession is we didnt hit the PR we wanted.
Scum have a PR still since they also have a negative.
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Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:02 am

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And to clarify, the only 2 scum roles that work in this setup will be Mafia doc or roleblocker.
And we find out which one they have depending on what A50 says.
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Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 2701, VFP wrote:Pooky gives a confirmed town, A50 gives a most likely town.
Pooky gives CONFIRMED TOWN. Someone else to scum to have to remove and can't drive a mislim on.
Likely Town is still a mislim driver.

I missed that part of the setup available to us, could you point me to it? Or is this just pure speculation
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Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:17 am

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But that's my point. If A50 was killed then we have 2 most likely town who both have small potential as a lim.
Not there is only 1 as a potential lim.

It's pure speculation, but I think I'm right here.

Are you good with a Titus lim so far today, Flea?
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Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:33 am

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[quote="In post 2706, VFP"][/quote]
Its titus or you, looking at the votes, I'm leaning Titus.
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Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:40 pm

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I get setting up my miselimination is likely why Gera was bussed. It is what it is. I'm still going to scumhunt but I'm gravely concerned about the autopilot that is this game.
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Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 2700, clidd wrote:Town!Titus would have read my interactions with Gera and came to the conclusion that the chance of T|S was low.
I don't read upon subbing in. To hold me to that standard is scummy.
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Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:08 pm

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In post 2708, Titus wrote:I get setting up my miselimination is likely why Gera was bussed. It is what it is. I'm still going to scumhunt but I'm gravely concerned about the autopilot that is this game.
Then change my mind.
I'm always willing to listen to reason.
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Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:24 pm

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@Titus

I mean, Amélie was scummy>I start my push on her>you replace in>nothing changes>reevaluation occurs but same conclusion is reached>read remains the same>I push you.

I don't see how you're seeing the "setting you up" here.
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Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:25 pm

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Autopilot would be my elimination, given my behaviour since repping in has been highly sus...

I came in to a scummy slot I mostly disavowed posts from, I hard shove a town and I defend a scum.

So you might have to expand on "Autopilot" for me.
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Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:25 pm

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Autopilot would be my elimination, given my behaviour since repping in has been highly sus...

I came in to a scummy slot I mostly disavowed posts from, I hard shove a town and I defend a scum.

So you might have to expand on "Autopilot" for me.
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Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:37 pm

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Clidd is pretty clearly town to me at this point.

So there is likely 2 in {Flea, Titus, VFP}. A50 still an outside possibility

I'm leaning towards VFP today I think. iirc April had been calling geraintm town early on and made those wagons on gretchen and entrapta (pooky). I think that wagon on entrapta where it very nearly went over should be telling.

We shouldn't be making a decision before we see what happened with A50 anyway.

We need to see what happened with A50 before we make a decision though.
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Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 339, Not_Mafia wrote:
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Da Dude (6)-
AliceK, geraintm, April Ludgate, Gretchen, Drippinggoofball, Ydrasse
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Amélie (0)-

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This is interesting. If Amelie (Titus) was scum with geraintm and April or Alice, she could have pushed it over. So maybe it is just VFP + Flea?
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Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:44 pm

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I guess VFP only makes sense with flea sense he attempted to shift attention from flea to geraintm

Same goes for clidd actually

I think want Flea today on second thought
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Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:48 pm

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Does it make sense for there to be a mafia doctor in a game without town kp? Is that typical?
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Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:57 pm

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No idea, but Pooky said that scum doctor is unlikely.
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Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:00 pm

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In post 2559, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm fine with the setup being exactly

Odd Night Gunsmith
Even Night Gunsmith
Novice Detective
Night 1 Psychologist
??? Neapolitian

because normals tend to get approved with 5 TPRs

the Gunsmiths are balanced by the fact that they get false-guilties on Detective/Gunsmith so it's roughly 50/50 on the guilty hit rate

The Neap is balanced by the fact that 4/7 of their "guilties" are false guilties. The other 2 invest roles are fairly weak imo.

It's a theme that fits. I highly doubt the mafia would have a doctor, the only game I've played as a mini normal where the gunsmith could get false innos on a mafia doctor was Boardgames and that Mafia Doctor was designed to counter the town vig and the town gunsmith and it was announced at the beginning of the game that a mafia doctor was in the game.

As that town was roughly the same power level as this one, I would expect a mafia doctor to be similarly announced as a possibility.
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Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:05 pm

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Vfp and Flea are both towny to me, so my preference is Titus.
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Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:16 pm

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I can only see Vfp as scum by PoE or April's behavior.

By play, he has being pretty towny.
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Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:21 pm

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Having me as a lock-read also doesn't make sense for scum!Vfp if he wants to win the endgame, by the way.
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Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:33 pm

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Hmm you're right actually. Maybe it is just Flea + Titus.
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Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:37 pm

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I'm more sure on Titus than Flea.

But yeah, my townread can be wrong on Flea if you and A50 are both town.

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