Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Disaster Cartel]

I asked you what you meant by 13–14 and if you answered I didn’t see it

i clarified that i meant 13-14 were pages

I missed this

[Nachomamma8]

Bork, my goal with regards to Cakez is to get a confident read on him early and quickly so that I can get a confident read on him down the line. I am bullying him because being rude to Cakez seems to be the quickest way to get him to actually address things with me - whenever I reach out or play softball he tends to glaze over what I'm saying to him.

Every time we've played TvT he's scumread and tunneled me without exception, which progressively got more and more annoying until popcorn broke me. You didn't see the fallout of that in Warehouse 13 even though I was technically in that game because ffery did the entirety of the heavy medium and light lifting.

[Nachomamma8]

Mena if you touch a hair on Borks head I will run you into the ground tia

What are your reads?

[Kismet]

Nacho i'm trying to figure out a way to engage you that's going to be productive. let me think on it a bit but i'm not trying to antagonize you here.

p-edit: that's helpful and yeah it's hard to see how you've been playing (or feeling) behind the scenes in a lot of those hydra games because you've generally been the less active partner

[Venus Fly Trap]

Skimming, work, ill actually be around later etc etc etx

But bork man i totally forgot abt you but you're really cool and i'm happy we get to play again and you're like just town here lol, id u need me to explain later i can but the gist of it is u feel super different to that normal in the same way that enabled me to identify town-you in tenet + i think you're out of the scumrange i've seen + i dont think scum-you would be nearly this proactice or nuanced

Also what i saw of nacho's response to cakez felt bad. Nacho your tone is like just super super super off and that whole convo with cakez felt really weird on both ends, but you especially felt stilted/unnatural. There's something fucky going on in that pair. I'd bet good money on at least one scum, if not both. If i had to pick just one i'd say nacho tho cuz sircakez did have a few ok posts last night

Ok later!
~ skitter

Also mena y r u playing around me ?
Also happy bday infinity!

[Infinity 324]

You're saying I'm not trying to figure his alignment out. Great. I am trying to figure his alignment out - how am I supposed to show that to you? Are the reasons for him being scum unreasonable? Does my push on him fail to outline a scum agenda?

This feels like something scum would say to look like frustrated town, the tone is just...not quite there.

[Kismet]

u need me to explain later

no. based on conversations we've had in the past both in and out of game this is basically what i expected from you the minute i was outed, no matter what your alignment is this game.

[Disaster Cartel]

Also mena y r u playing around me ?

Do you mean why am I not trying to read you or something else?

-Mena

[Nachomamma8]

I'm not sure there's a good approach to this other than just letting it play out - my treatment of Cakez here is an anomaly in that it's not a way that I've approached someone as town in the past and hope never to approach someone as town in the future. It is something I use often as scum.

The only difference between this and when I use it as scum is the target - I generally leverage an approach like this when I'm trying to discredit someone who can read we well or I'm trying to mislynch someone who should never ever be mislynched.

[Nachomamma8]

Part of what was antagonizing me was that it felt you were expecting something meta wise but I had no idea who you were so no idea what you expected/what experience you had with me/etc.

[Infinity 324]

You're saying I'm not trying to figure his alignment out. Great. I am trying to figure his alignment out - how am I supposed to show that to you? Are the reasons for him being scum unreasonable? Does my push on him fail to outline a scum agenda?

This feels like something scum would say to look like frustrated town, the tone is just...not quite there.

This was expressed pretty equivocally so let me try again:

Nacho is scummmmmm

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho your tone is like just super super super off

This feels like something scum would say to look like frustrated town, the tone is just...not quite there.

You two are bad tonereaders.

Wrt Infinity am not surprised because he just seems to be stuck in tunnel mode.

Wrt skitter I'm still waiting for your scumread to evolve past its premise.

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

seems like someone who felt like they had to post "content" and threw something out

i mean basically

i signed up to hydra and my partner's barely been playing

so im kinda just coasting b/c im not motivated

~leaf

what was the purpose of the post then?

to throw something out?

the reads weren't forced as in i forced myself to make reads where i didnt have any it was more that i had to force myself to read thread and get them out

~leaf

[Infinity 324]

Mena if you touch a hair on Borks head I will run you into the ground tia

This feels towny for notsci and bork

[Kismet]

Notsci — town
Nacho

VFT — lean town
Infinity

BHL — null
Salsa
NM
Bulge

Kismet — lean scum
Cakez
Leafy/glacey

i mean i basically feel like i have to ask "why" on every name here other than noddy and anything in your null range, although i guess your "why" on me so far is that i'm OMGUSing you for not explicitly townreading me before that point

which is, by the way, an ass reason

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Leafeon and Glaceon

[Infinity 324]

Wrt Infinity am not surprised because he just seems to be stuck in tunnel mode.

she*

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

I doubt that, I think multiple of us here have all played together before?

You doubt that no one here knows beeboy, or that mistyx would think that no one here knows beeboy

..the latter? haven’t like half the PL played with beeboy? I’m p sure that regardless of alignment they’d prob have talked about their experience with the rest of the list

-Mena

(he has not)

~leaf

[Nachomamma8]

Wrt Infinity am not surprised because he just seems to be stuck in tunnel mode.

she*

Thanks for correcting, I'll get it right in the future >.>

[Infinity 324]

the reads weren't forced as in i forced myself to make reads where i didnt have any it was more that i had to force myself to read thread and get them out

Weird question, is there a difference for you emotionally? Can you explain it at all? For me these two things feel pretty similar

[Kismet]

i do get some vibes of GIF hanging me out to try in illicit from ol' leafy here but eh, i'd probably have been annoyed with that if i'd been town there too

[Nachomamma8]

TOWN
Kismet
Infinity

town
Salsa

town?
notscience

bad
Mom
Not Mafia
Disaster
SirCakez
Bulge

worse
L&G
VFT

[Leafeon and Glaceon]

the reads weren't forced as in i forced myself to make reads where i didnt have any it was more that i had to force myself to read thread and get them out

Weird question, is there a difference for you emotionally? Can you explain it at all? For me these two things feel pretty similar

the former is "i read thread, i don't have any reads from it, but im going to post stuff anyway" and the latter is "i didn't read thread but i still feel like i need to post anyway or else im just a useless slanker"

technically it was both but i forced myself to reread the parts of thread since my last post again

~leaf

[Infinity 324]

I’m p sure that regardless of alignment they’d prob have talked about their experience with the rest of the list

Oh I missed this, I'm not so sure I agree but I still SR the slot so yeah

[Infinity 324]

the former is "i read thread, i don't have any reads from it, but im going to post stuff anyway" and the latter is "i didn't read thread but i still feel like i need to post anyway or else im just a useless slanker"

Do you do more of one and less of the other depending on your alignment?