Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Nachomamma8]

I'm not so much talking about an agenda of "yeet N_M first" as I am one of steering the early discussion in an arguably futile direction, and in the process shooting down our momentum before we even take off. I like lilith's theory about scum willingly giving up their own biggest liability in return for a N1 kill, though nm's "I'll never go out first it's just the way it goes" bit rings true to me, and aside from that I've got nothing on the slot atm.

I don't think that my early game was steering the discussion in a futile direction; I'd argue that my early game set a pretty serious tone early which was a good building block for some of the other stuff that happened today.

[Nachomamma8]

and i quoted this post because... isn't it worse to flip nm based on policy as town than other town players who we would have to wagon? and i dont understand why we couldnt just kill him another day and why it has to be today

I've moved past this a while ago.
How does this question help you figure out my alignment?

[Nachomamma8]

I haven't played recently but this is almost always a meta thing and not an alignment thing. Unless someone specifically has a meta of being afraid or pro policy lynches as one alignment.
I don't find it's something people take advantage of so all my attempts at fact checking this end up being. "oh this person does this as both alignments."

I brought this up as a response to the argument that I was genuinely pushing to get NM lynched early - policy lynching is hilarious uncommon and never actually works and this is something I knew coming into this game.

[The Bulge]

y'all are goons. I do far less then this as scum.

~Glaceon

I actually agree that this is more than Ive seen scum-beeboy do

But posting volume is something that can be guilted from a hydra buddy so meh

mhm we should just yeet anyone who tries to posit that beeboy is town simply because he's posting

I think The Bulge is town

if there's anything that bothers me about bulge is that he's very obviously been reading but he's chosen to only engage about one thing in particular and that thing is an unflipped association (infinity/l&g) which i'm worried the grounds aren't particularly solid on.

I realize he has Qs for me about infinity which i should responsibly reexamine my read while answering, but that will probably come tonight.

looking forward to it!

Dont really get anything from the bulge really

if i had a dime......

In my limited experience with bulge they're super obvtown as town and they're not that this game

huh??

[The Bulge]

nacho i think the convo for later for us is vft because that is likely to be where we have the most difference of opinion so far. i need to reread skitter's posts from today before i commit to that read as it was like 7:30am when i did initially, but i was very much a fan and her content is not all just centered around you.

I look forward to this. I know that I owe a full explanation on my VFT read; currently feels like I'm the only person that doesn't think they are the towniest towns who ever towned which is causing me to dig my heels in a bit more than I'd like to but I'd like to get that read sorted out quick so I can determine whether I'm being dumb or not.

who is townbinning VFT?

[Nachomamma8]

Mena's approach of me is consistent to the one he had in the dance game where I was actually scum, although I efforted in that game like, not at all.... I really just wanted to pair with the IC then leave the dance so the circumstances were different but it's fine.

This is sketchy.

[Nachomamma8]

who is townbinning VFT?

Kismet and Cakez and a couple others.

[Nachomamma8]

Disaster. Infinity.

[Infinity 324]

I'm having a hard time articulating what I like about skitt beyond what I already have. Somehow I feel like her notsci read in 303 and her bork read in 479 would look different. She's also mindmelding with me on nacho

None of these are good reasons for VFT town.

Why are they scum?

[The Bulge]

cool cool, what are your thought on those players? @nacho

[The Bulge]

a simple town/scum for each is fine

[Nachomamma8]

mostly what i resigned into the hydra for is that i forgot to say earlier that i kinda dislike that the only thing nacho responded to in my post i made about/to him earlier was to discuss the prevelency of policy flips, and that he kinda ignored the rest of it

Sometimes I check the game when I'm walking into work or waiting for someone to come back to the office or waiting for someone to finish with their credit card application. When I post during these times I don't address everything I want to at once.

[Nachomamma8]

a simple town/scum for each is fine

All town except for disaster which is more of an "I don't know" as opposed to "scum".

[notscience]

Excuse me sir you owe me a wall

[Nachomamma8]

I'm having a hard time articulating what I like about skitt beyond what I already have. Somehow I feel like her notsci read in 303 and her bork read in 479 would look different. She's also mindmelding with me on nacho

None of these are good reasons for VFT town.

Why are they scum?

There is some stuff that I disliked that I talked about in responses to Kismet and responses to skitter. I'll probably talk about more stuff in my continued catch-up posts but if you wanted an isolated post on them that'll have to wait unt later.

[Nachomamma8]

Excuse me sir you owe me a wall

You owe me a townread

[Infinity 324]

Thanks!

Mena is always concerned with how people read him and I think it might actually be towny

Why do you think this? As scum, it allows him to dig into what people don't like him and course correct - it also gives him a direct chance to change people's reads on him.

Psychologically I'd expect scum to want to look like they don't care about reads on them, though admittedly that's pretty weak and I'm not at all confident the slot is town

[The Bulge]

Thanks!

Mena is always concerned with how people read him and I think it might actually be towny

if he's always like that, where are you drawing the townread from exactly? what is AI about this instance in particular?

[Infinity 324]

huh??

Imo you were bleedingly obvious town in that normal I was spectating where you were loyal JK, other people didn't seem to agree though.

PEdit: specifically, he's always like that as town, I don't have the sample size as scum to draw a conclusion there.

[The Bulge]

I'm not so much talking about an agenda of "yeet N_M first" as I am one of steering the early discussion in an arguably futile direction, and in the process shooting down our momentum before we even take off. I like lilith's theory about scum willingly giving up their own biggest liability in return for a N1 kill, though nm's "I'll never go out first it's just the way it goes" bit rings true to me, and aside from that I've got nothing on the slot atm.

I don't think that my early game was steering the discussion in a futile direction; I'd argue that my early game set a pretty serious tone early which was a good building block for some of the other stuff that happened today.

I don't disagree but I don't think this matters to what I'm saying. we can talk about intentions/expectations, and we can talk about what ended up going down. two different conversations.

[Kismet]

on phone but 744 745 aint doin it for me

[Nachomamma8]

on phone but 744 745 aint doin it for me

Yeah I don't think you or notscience will be reading me correctly this game. Lessons for the future, I suppose.

[Kismet]

I meant about vft

[The Bulge]

huh??

Imo you were bleedingly obvious town in that normal I was spectating where you were loyal JK, other people didn't seem to agree though.

PEdit: specifically, he's always like that as town, I don't have the sample size as scum to draw a conclusion there.

that's fair and I agree lol but I don't think I have ever in my life been anywhere close to what I would call obvtown in the early phases of a game.

[Kismet]

Why do you think i am incapable of coming around on you?