Open 809: Charge Me Up! [Over]

[Green Crayons]

having never played this setup before, and so not sure of the exact contours of the rule, i would be careful about talking about where this might be going given the no-n0-talk rule.

[flow trap]

But it's the player list ._.

[Flea The Magician]

This is where your logic is flawed. I ran a 10-3-1 setup with us through my distribution checker so I can confirm my script isn't showing much bias.
It randomly set up the game 10,000 times assuming 10-3-1.

Spoiler: I totally didn't have this script lying around...

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{'Artemiana': {'Mafia Goon': 104, 'Serial Killer': 29, 'Vanilla Townie': 328},

 'Dark Magician Girl': {'Mafia Goon': 135,
                        'Serial Killer': 31,
                        'Vanilla Townie': 342},

 'DkKoba': {'Mafia Goon': 91, 'Serial Killer': 37, 'Vanilla Townie': 368},

 'Flea the Magician': {'Mafia Goon': 132,
                       'Serial Killer': 39,
                       'Vanilla Townie': 357},

 'Green Crayons': {'Mafia Goon': 100,
                   'Serial Killer': 41,
                   'Vanilla Townie': 365},

 'Lukewarm': {'Mafia Goon': 107, 'Serial Killer': 26, 'Vanilla Townie': 364},

 'MiniVirgo (MiniMegabyte + JacksonVirgo)': {'Mafia Goon': 112,
                                             'Serial Killer': 35,
                                             'Vanilla Townie': 348},

 'NDMath': {'Mafia Goon': 108, 'Serial Killer': 35, 'Vanilla Townie': 339},

 'Not_Mafia': {'Mafia Goon': 101, 'Serial Killer': 33, 'Vanilla Townie': 360},

 'Save the Dragons': {'Mafia Goon': 109,
                      'Serial Killer': 33,
                      'Vanilla Townie': 358},

 'VFP ': {'Mafia Goon': 96, 'Serial Killer': 36, 'Vanilla Townie': 355},

 'Yessiree ': {'Mafia Goon': 99, 'Serial Killer': 39, 'Vanilla Townie': 354},

 'flow trap': {'Mafia Goon': 118, 'Serial Killer': 39, 'Vanilla Townie': 353},

 'mozamis': {'Mafia Goon': 105, 'Serial Killer': 30, 'Vanilla Townie': 367}}

Pretty sure this tells you your argument about positioning on the player list is BS. The variation is what I'd expect

Spoiler: Changed it to 10,000 times for shiggles

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{'Artemiana': {'Mafia Goon': 1078,
               'Serial Killer': 378,
               'Vanilla Townie': 3559},
 'Dark Magician Girl': {'Mafia Goon': 1064,
                        'Serial Killer': 373,
                        'Vanilla Townie': 3545},
 'DkKoba': {'Mafia Goon': 1065, 'Serial Killer': 384, 'Vanilla Townie': 3578},
 'Flea the Magician': {'Mafia Goon': 1094,
                       'Serial Killer': 347,
                       'Vanilla Townie': 3556},
 'Green Crayons': {'Mafia Goon': 1094,
                   'Serial Killer': 374,
                   'Vanilla Townie': 3517},
 'Lukewarm': {'Mafia Goon': 1092, 'Serial Killer': 350, 'Vanilla Townie': 3503},
 'MiniVirgo (MiniMegabyte + JacksonVirgo)': {'Mafia Goon': 1075,
                                             'Serial Killer': 349,
                                             'Vanilla Townie': 3481},
 'NDMath': {'Mafia Goon': 1013, 'Serial Killer': 374, 'Vanilla Townie': 3534},
 'Not_Mafia': {'Mafia Goon': 1126,
               'Serial Killer': 369,
               'Vanilla Townie': 3575},
 'Save the Dragons': {'Mafia Goon': 1144,
                      'Serial Killer': 369,
                      'Vanilla Townie': 3559},
 'VFP ': {'Mafia Goon': 1108, 'Serial Killer': 339, 'Vanilla Townie': 3523},
 'Yessiree ': {'Mafia Goon': 1073,
               'Serial Killer': 329,
               'Vanilla Townie': 3649},
 'flow trap': {'Mafia Goon': 1160,
               'Serial Killer': 341,
               'Vanilla Townie': 3531},
 'mozamis': {'Mafia Goon': 1044, 'Serial Killer': 347, 'Vanilla Townie': 3595}}

[Flea The Magician]

SK is complete speculation btw but it is 14p...

[flow trap]

I can't tell if you're serious, but I wasn't

[Green Crayons]

is that humor or a drought

[Save The Dragons]

this game is bizarre

[flow trap]

is that humor or a drought

Bof

[Raya36]

It has been requested I confirm the playerlist is random. It is in the order of signups as given by the listmod

[Flea The Magician]

Can't believe that needed saing, honestly...

now where was I...

VOTE: DmG! Monster and dark magic! *hiss!*

[yessiree]

VOTE: yes

for whatever he's doing with Dragons

What about it, can you explain?

[NDMath]

numerous people not understanding flowtrap's joke is kinda sad

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I found this post townie, unlike the other players who have given thoughts on it.
Lukewarm is in a mindset of looking for what is protown behavior vs not. Specifically the more passive tone is what makes it read as actual thoughts versus scum trying to display a 'town mindset' to me.

VOTE: yes

I forgot this was a player and was very confused for a minute.

ok yall gonna think im fucking crazy for this take but its def a proper vibe.

NDmath cannot be partners with Lukewarm - i can explain later if needed.

I won't protest lol

SK is complete speculation btw but it is 14p...

Very confused how you got this far without seeing the alignment ratios. I question if that's a mistake town can make.

[mozamis]

how can we doing set up spec already?
aaaaaaaagh

[Lukewarm]

Hmmm. I don't particularly like that DK immeneately claimed to be a PR.

But I also really don't like VFP immediately taking Flow Trap's word that they were confirmed town - joking or not, still unclear but kind of irrelevant to me after they dodged the question the first time tbh

And I also dislike Jester/scum memeing from Not_Mafia. Like ewwww

VOTE: Not_Mafia

That is NM's default entry to the game..

Oh for those not aware, E-1 is NM-Hammer.

I mean maybe it is his default entrance, it is still a play that I don't like lol. I'm still trying to form any real opinions on people, so I am in the RVS of this game. Might as well vote against things I dont like lol.

lukewarm, what's your mafia playing experience?

Very little on Mafiascum, I have not finished a game yet lol (I am in an ongoing newbie game right now),
I have played several games in a Mafia Discord channel, which were similarly a long form text based mafia games, but those games moved much faster then on here
I have played a lot of short form mafia games like Epicmafia and One Night Ultimate Werewolf.

But I also really don't like VFP immediately taking Flow Trap's word that they were confirmed town - joking or not, still unclear but kind of irrelevant to me after they dodged the question the first time tbh

what don't you like about it

what's irrelevant and why does that matter

I don't like it because Flow trap is definitely not confirmed town, so anyone taking their word for it is bad. That does not really seem like a scum thing to do, so I am not scum reading them for it, but I am pointing out that I don't like it lol

I was trying to say that it was irrelevant if they came back and said "I was just joking when I said that."

[DkKoba]

oh you played on epicmafia?
yeah that solidifies my scumread here.

[Dark Magician Girl]

VOTE: green crayons

[Lukewarm]

oh you played on epicmafia?
yeah that solidifies my scumread here.

I played a lot on epic mafia when I was a teenager, but I have not played on there in at least 5 years lol

Unsure what that has to do with a scum read on me, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[VFP]

Yeah that was pretty odd.
But Dk is VFP blocked and Lukewarm is basically confirmed scum at this point.

[DkKoba]

oh you played on epicmafia?
yeah that solidifies my scumread here.

I played a lot on epic mafia when I was a teenager, but I have not played on there in at least 5 years lol

Unsure what that has to do with a scum read on me, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i have a chat mafia background - i can read that playstyle better because of it.

[Dark Magician Girl]

green crayons is >>rand scum btw

and my hydra partner has the same thought so I feel v good about this vote

[Dark Magician Girl]

lukewarm could be scum

Dk probably town, but if they're scum then lukewarm is definitely scum

flow trap and VFP are my biggest townreads

[Not_Mafia]

Hmmm. I don't particularly like that DK immeneately claimed to be a PR.

But I also really don't like VFP immediately taking Flow Trap's word that they were confirmed town - joking or not, still unclear but kind of irrelevant to me after they dodged the question the first time tbh

And I also dislike Jester/scum memeing from Not_Mafia. Like ewwww

VOTE: Not_Mafia

That is NM's default entry to the game..

Oh for those not aware, E-1 is NM-Hammer.

I mean maybe it is his default entrance, it is still a play that I don't like lol. I'm still trying to form any real opinions on people, so I am in the RVS of this game. Might as well vote against things I dont like lol.

lukewarm, what's your mafia playing experience?

Very little on Mafiascum, I have not finished a game yet lol (I am in an ongoing newbie game right now),
I have played several games in a Mafia Discord channel, which were similarly a long form text based mafia games, but those games moved much faster then on here
I have played a lot of short form mafia games like Epicmafia and One Night Ultimate Werewolf.

But I also really don't like VFP immediately taking Flow Trap's word that they were confirmed town - joking or not, still unclear but kind of irrelevant to me after they dodged the question the first time tbh

what don't you like about it

what's irrelevant and why does that matter

I don't like it because Flow trap is definitely not confirmed town, so anyone taking their word for it is bad. That does not really seem like a scum thing to do, so I am not scum reading them for it, but I am pointing out that I don't like it lol

I was trying to say that it was irrelevant if they came back and said "I was just joking when I said that."

This is scumposting, plain and simple

[Flea The Magician]

Very confused how you got this far without seeing the alignment ratios. I question if that's a mistake town can make.

Because I don't look at them usually I look at additional mech and thats it usually.

Hell I play in Normals without knowing what actually counts as a normal role or not

how can we doing set up spec already?
aaaaaaaagh

We're not.

*Mufasa voice*

It is forbidden.

oh you played on epicmafia?
yeah that solidifies my scumread here.

<buuuurn.gif>

[Flea The Magician]

Oh hey its 11-3.... I'm also not that used to open setups is my defence here xD (Seriously go look, I mostly play closed themes )

Oh well, SK in that example now exists to show the possibility of rolling 1 specific role in the pool, add it on to town if you want town numbers

[yessiree]

Not_Mafia putting this much effort early on? Must be scum

VOTE: Not_Mafia