MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[Raya36]

It's saying that if there are two factional kills only one happens. They still each choose. They just don't know whose will go through. That's even if there are two groups

[Raya36]

My suspicion now is drifting towards TL. First iff, his "benign 3P" proposition is scummy enough it could be seen as a link to mahi from my PoV. ALSO, him promoting this "Alien" thing is scummy AF. I did search for "Prince" and I got a few results, and one was 8261. Now how did he miss that?

Finally, "A50 is most likely the deepwolf" with no explanation or case doesn't even make sense to me, and it feels more like "I suspect A50 has pocked something tricky at night, so I'd rather lim him by day".

You sure about this

[samantha97]

if you're sure mahimahi is a prince then we already know there are at least 2 factions

[samantha97]

I mean the entire argument about voting me is founded on mahimahi being an alien lol

[Raya36]

I'm not really counting mahi as a faction since it's highly unlikely there are more aliens

[Guillotina]

now read the other text

I read it, there is no guarantee that there are other factional kills. No guarantee at all, what we know for certain is that it blocked me three times while scum has successfully hit three times.
Vaxkiller is dead because he suspected you so your team killed him so you could cook up a fake claim to cover up that suspicion.

You die today!

[samantha97]

Vaxkiller is dead because he suspected you so your team killed him so you could cook up a fake claim to cover up that suspicion.

You die today!

sarcasm?

[Guillotina]

if you're sure mahimahi is a prince then we already know there are at least 2 factions

I never said that there was no other factions, i said that there is no guarantee that there are more factional kills.

[samantha97]

I never said that there was no other factions, i said that there is no guarantee that there are more factional kills.

the only non-town prince has a factional kill

I'mma go do something more productive though so now's the time to rush me through if you want

[Almost50]

I am not sure about mahi being a Prince. I was making a case on TL. mahi is SCUM. Period. What their role is? I dunno. What their "exact" alignment is? No idea.

I searched for Prince because TEMPORAL is persistent that this is mahi's role, so I wanted to see what he'd get if he searched for "prince" (and not -say- L-proof or Death-proof).

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #5

Almost50 (2) (E-3) - samantha97 (1559), TemporalLich (1583)

samantha97 (2) (E-3) - Almost50 (1563), Raya36 (1564), Guillotina (1589)

CaptainS (0) -
Not Voting (4) - Flea The Magician, CaptainS, mahimahi, KidAmn

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Friday, April 23, 2021 8:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-23 20:30:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Saturday, April 17, 2021 7:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-17 19:30:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Guillotina's vote will still be tracked, but it doesn't officially count during this day phase due to the activity rules. This does not lower the execution threshold.
5: CaptainS is V/LA until the start of Monday, April 19, 2021.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
9. KidAmn : They/Them
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any

[Raya36]

I am not sure about mahi being a Prince. I was making a case on TL. mahi is SCUM. Period. What their role is? I dunno. What their "exact" alignment is? No idea.

I searched for Prince because TEMPORAL is persistent that this is mahi's role, so I wanted to see what he'd get if he searched for "prince" (and not -say- L-proof or Death-proof).

skim through D4 again for mentions of TL

[Almost50]

@Raya: Huh?

[Raya36]

Vax cleared Lich. You're pushing conftown

[Almost50]

Oh. So you probably meant D3, not D4

[Raya36]

I meant D4. We talked about it and labeled Lich as clear so I figured that'd be quicker to find

[Guillotina]

I never said that there was no other factions, i said that there is no guarantee that there are more factional kills.

the only non-town prince has a factional kill

I'mma go do something more productive though so now's the time to rush me through if you want

Alien Prince

Usage:

You cannot be lynched.

Created by Ircher himself

[Almost50]

@Raya: Well it still bothers me he's promoting me as a deepwolf and trying to save a -ve town utility at best, plus his defense of mahi makes no sense. I probably wouldn't have been as upset if we didn't have a good idea about (a) samantha's role being a -ve utility and (b) mahi being SCUM.

TL started the day stating he will vote whoever the RB is, and did that as soon as samantha claimed it, then turned to me when I appeared to be pushing her myself (but with more logic than he did before she claimed).

[TemporalLich]

I switched to A50 after some strategic consideration, mostly guillo has an ability that could bypass the need for eliminating the conftown blolerocker

I get the deepwolf part from an ISO skim, it looks towny but not something that couldn't be scum

[TemporalLich]

the reason is that guillo has a salt rifle and that has a 50% chance of being a strongman and potentially shredding samantha's roleblock

[Guillotina]

the reason is that guillo has a salt rifle and that has a 50% chance of being a strongman and potentially shredding samantha's roleblock

We yeet Samantha, the rifle shot is risky as it could kill someone else too, you, me, Raya, anyone.

We yeet Samantha and i target someone in our PoE and we let scum take care of the Alien, if not im happy with the Alien winning as long as it's not scum that wins.
With Samantha dead im dying tonight but better believe im going out with a bang.

[Guillotina]

@Raya: Well it still bothers me he's promoting me as a deepwolf and trying to save a -ve town utility at best, plus his defense of mahi makes no sense. I probably wouldn't have been as upset if we didn't have a good idea about (a) samantha's role being a -ve utility and (b) mahi being SCUM.

TL started the day stating he will vote whoever the RB is, and did that as soon as samantha claimed it, then turned to me when I appeared to be pushing her myself (but with more logic than he did before she claimed).

A50, TL was cleared by Vaxkiller, end of the story, besides, TL can confirm himself by targeting Samanta and CaptainS, it's not like those two are gonna fight anyway.

What do you say TL?

Also, where is my fellow wild card friend? @Flea

[samantha97]

We yeet Samantha and i target someone in our PoE and we let scum take care of the Alien, if not im happy with the Alien winning as long as it's not scum that wins.

the reason why temporal wanted me dead was because of mahimahi's potential role, not because we need someone to kill mafia more generally

that's what voting used to be for

[Guillotina]

We yeet Samantha and i target someone in our PoE and we let scum take care of the Alien, if not im happy with the Alien winning as long as it's not scum that wins.

the reason why temporal wanted me dead was because of mahimahi's potential role, not because we need someone to kill mafia more generally

that's what voting used to be for

No, we need you dead so i can do my job.

The way i see it, Mahi is scum's problem unless we can eliminate your teammates first then Mahi becomes our problem. Me not killing Mahi is gonna force scum to waste a nightkill on them instead of killing us unless they are ok with letting Mahi win. To think i wanted Mahi dead and now they become a nice strategic element for us.

[CaptainS]

We yeet Samantha and i target someone in our PoE and we let scum take care of the Alien, if not im happy with the Alien winning as long as it's not scum that wins.

the reason why temporal wanted me dead was because of mahimahi's potential role, not because we need someone to kill mafia more generally

that's what voting used to be for

No, we need you dead so i can do my job.

The way i see it, Mahi is scum's problem unless we can eliminate your teammates first then Mahi becomes our problem. Me not killing Mahi is gonna force scum to waste a nightkill on them instead of killing us unless they are ok with letting Mahi win. To think i wanted Mahi dead and now they become a nice strategic element for us.

Just a general question. You are talking all the time about having a grenade and it being returned to you etc. Can you point me to the exact post where somebody else confirms your role rather than it being your words/thoughts so that we aren't leading the vote away from you.

I'm happy for my vote to not be on you but it looks like you are leading town right now and i would rather we not waste another day with somebody not being elimmed.