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[Andresvmb]

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

[Robert M Hunter]

I'll do it, but fuck you in advance for when you boringly and predictably call me wrong and a moron for my effort.

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This is very early in the game and Haschel is picking hard at Andres while sucking up to you. You're probably to vain to see it. He asks a question about a

subjective

judgment, then nit picks. And comes at Andres again and again.

Now I'm not sure if Haschel is sucking up to a townie and picking on another townie, or sucking up to a townie and ragging on his buddy... or buddying up to his buddy to persecute a townie... chances are it's the first scenario but anything is possible.

I don't see this coming from town.

Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.

Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.

I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.

I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

As an aside, the game has been open for less than 24 hours; nobody is a lurker yet. Osuka, you have more posts than the second and third most prolific posters combined. Dial it down.

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

Not voting for them and asking for their thoughts.

That is a bizarre way to view the effect of a single vote. But putting that aside, can you show me where you actually ask for their thoughts?

PREVIEW EDIT re 225: Osuka don't you dare comment on this.

That is a bizarre way to view the effect of a single vote. But putting that aside, can you show me where you actually ask for their thoughts?

Did you expect to directly ask: can you give me your thoughts on x?

Yes, I do expect that.

Because I haven’t done that.

Ah.

I did however suggest that we vote the player asking for more votes on them. That’s me directly wanting to interact with someone.

That's not you trying to learn Osuka's thoughts; that you trying to get Osuka to go along with your thoughts.

You could just read my posts also.

I did, which is why I asked the question.

[Robert M Hunter]

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

You're calling it a compromise vote. I'm not.

[Andresvmb]

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

You're calling it a compromise vote. I'm not.

You’re Scum. I’m not.

[Save The Dragons]

STD will vote anyone but Crayons... that's definitely weird to me. like anytime there's a wagon, you jump on it...

wrong.

i wouldn't vote lemons when you wanted to push lemons either

[Robert M Hunter]

VOTE: T3

VOTE: T3

I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

And you won't vote T3, and osuka won't vote T3... maybe that's what we should be looking at.

[Andante]

it's not that i believe it, it's that the slot will sort itself out later in the game. if he's a pro town tracker, he's probably going to get killed later and we'll find out. or if he's scum and is still alive later, we can sort it out then. i think there's a better D1 play here.

Agreed, I'm a little iffy on Robert, but now that he's claimed we'll find out soon enough if it's a lie without having to potentially eliminate a power role of ours

Can somebody quickly explain the case on dragons? Or link me to an explanation if you already had one

I just don't think it's smart to eliminate a claimed tracker D1. And I also think his scum partners would've 1) helped with a better crumb, and 2) told him not to claim at E-2 or whatever it was

I think Robert is really tracker, and I think this was Asteria hinting some TMI to try and sway Robert to her side. And as I said before, I could see her as dragons partner..... yeah I'm not opposed to voting out dragons, like for dragons, I'm not even sure why, but I'm like convincing myself they're way too stubborn to be town?? yeah dumb I know. I'll go Dragons/Asteria, or T3 (love me a random yeet... it's like flipping a coin!!)

[Andante]

VOTE: T3

VOTE: T3

I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

And you won't vote T3, and osuka won't vote T3... maybe that's what we should be looking at.

Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

[Andante]

yolo I'm voting dragons and going to bed, I have no genuine reason to keep a tr on him, if it's not hammered overnight, I'll reevaluate tomorrow

VOTE: Dragons

[Robert M Hunter]

Prod acknowledged. I am at work and about to head on the road so deep dive will come later. Quick note before I go, though:

Like in all honesty I would rather get executed quickly than spend a whole lot of time re-reading this game when I’m getting pushed for entirely bullshit reasons.

"Scum being upset that they are caught for the wrong reasons" is one of my favorite recurring tropes in these games.

Unvote

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Funny story, Haschel was still random voting Green Crayons when he unvoted. Haschel is hinting that he finds Andres scummy and suggesting he is upset for getting caught for the wrong reasons.

But Haschel doesn't vote Andres, he just unvotes Green Crayons.

[Andresvmb]

Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

I just want you to realize that Robert’s viewpoint makes no sense at all. I have a SR of them (I don’t even recall putting out a read of T3 at all btw), but me not “wanting to vote T3” is where they should be looking? C’mon it’s totally unrealistic and absurd. Robert is almost surely Scum (and bad at hiding it), and the Scum are sinking themselves trying to defend them and each other. If STD flips Town, I’ll be amazed.

[Andante]

I believe this is where votes are, don't kill me if I'm wrong, your last official VC is pg 44

Unofficial VC
Save The Dragons [5]: PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP, T3, Andresvmb, Andante
PookyTheMagicalBear [2]: Salsabil Faria, InsidiousLemons
VFP [1]: osuka
Andresvmb [1]: Asteria
Asteria [1]: Anya
T3 [2]: Save The Dragons, Robert M Hunter,

[Save The Dragons]

what even is your case on me, andres

[Robert M Hunter]

Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

I just want you to realize that Robert’s viewpoint makes no sense at all. I have a SR of them (I don’t even recall putting out a read of T3 at all btw), but me not “wanting to vote T3” is where they should be looking? C’mon it’s totally unrealistic and absurd. Robert is almost surely Scum (and bad at hiding it), and the Scum are sinking themselves trying to defend them and each other. If STD flips Town, I’ll be amazed.

I'm town, and I was being sarcastic re: your manipulative BS.

[Save The Dragons]

what even is your case on me, andres

that is the question people should be asking but are not asking

what is pooky's case on me? who knows, he won't say.
what is VFP's case on me? who knows, he's voting because of pooky
what is andres's case on me? i dunno, he didn't say
what is T3's case on me? I dunno, he didn't say

isn't that weird...to anyone?

[Andresvmb]

what even is your case on me, andres

Just look at your ISO. You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or everyone I TR at least. Your push on me was bad, but you dropped it when you realized I was being TR. And then what did you do? You went to push Andante. I mean that alone is enough for me wanting to get you executed. You’re also strongly defending RMH who is Scummy as all hell.

[Andante]

Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

I just want you to realize that Robert’s viewpoint makes no sense at all. I have a SR of them (I don’t even recall putting out a read of T3 at all btw), but me not “wanting to vote T3” is where they should be looking? C’mon it’s totally unrealistic and absurd. Robert is almost surely Scum (and bad at hiding it), and the Scum are sinking themselves trying to defend them and each other. If STD flips Town, I’ll be amazed.

ok look, I am exhausted. We're not yeeting a tracker claim today regardless of anything so that's a waste of time/energy there. He's brand new, so don't go expecting him to be a pro. idk what else to really say there, I'd go look at possible votes here, something relevant to the game, cause scum would focus on something pointless such as "I don't think tracker is real" ok cool, doesn't matter here, who is actually getting voted... I'd flip to Asteria tomorrow if more people wanted her, STD if also fine by me

ok goodnight, yall are so tiring lmao

[Robert M Hunter]

Huge honking, blinking manipulation of Andante.

Maybe Andres wants to eliminate the tracker during the day so he's free to night kill the gunsmith.

VOTE: T3

VOTE: T3

I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

[Robert M Hunter]

You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or

everyone I TR

at least.

[Save The Dragons]

what even is your case on me, andres

Just look at your ISO. You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or everyone I TR at least. Your push on me was bad, but you dropped it when you realized I was being TR. And then what did you do? You went to push Andante. I mean that alone is enough for me wanting to get you executed. You’re also strongly defending RMH who is Scummy as all hell.

did you read the part of the game where i voted robert or are you just going to glance over that/call that bussing and call it a day

did you read my case against andante before she claimed? did the thought i could be wrong ever cross your mind?

[Andresvmb]

Maybe Andres wants to eliminate the tracker during the day so he's free to night kill the gunsmith.

This speculation is ridiculous since the Gunsmith is most certainly a high value target for the Scum. Just useless speculation.

You know, you need to try and show more nuance in your Scum game. Like you’re actually considering what’s going on. Just SR’ing me when it’s convenient seems bad. Not everyone that’s SR’ing you can be Scum. So maybe I could be going wrong. But you’re just resorting to attacks. That’s what’s getting you killed here.

[Robert M Hunter]

did you read the part of the game where i voted robert

I know my alignment, so that's not to your credit.

[Andresvmb]

what even is your case on me, andres

Just look at your ISO. You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or everyone I TR at least. Your push on me was bad, but you dropped it when you realized I was being TR. And then what did you do? You went to push Andante. I mean that alone is enough for me wanting to get you executed. You’re also strongly defending RMH who is Scummy as all hell.

did you read the part of the game where i voted robert or are you just going to glance over that/call that bussing and call it a day

did you read my case against andante before she claimed? did the thought i could be wrong ever cross your mind?

We’ll find out I guess.

[Save The Dragons]

did you read the part of the game where i voted robert

I know my alignment, so that's not to your credit.

i'm not saying i'm town for that i'm saying we're not scum buddies together for that which is the basis of his argument that he's bullheadedly ramrodding now

[Robert M Hunter]

Maybe Andres wants to eliminate the tracker during the day so he's free to night kill the gunsmith.

This speculation is ridiculous since the Gunsmith is most certainly a high value target for the Scum. Just useless speculation.

You know, you need to try and show more nuance in your Scum game. Like you’re actually considering what’s going on. Just SR’ing me when it’s convenient seems bad. Not everyone that’s SR’ing you can be Scum. So maybe I could be going wrong. But you’re just resorting to attacks. That’s what’s getting you killed here.

I've been nothing but courteous, but at some point TONIGHT I've had enough being called a moron. Why are you misrepresenting?