I don't know if I would go that far but their posts keeping the window open for illogical behavior tomorrow was a huge red flag for me tooIn post 822, Titus wrote:Anyone not seeing that this is staged Bell then Noraa flips is out of their minds imo.
Wait what do you mean by this?In post 822, Titus wrote:Anyone not seeing that this is staged Bell then Noraa flips is out of their minds imo.
Flip Bell.In post 826, Raya36 wrote:Wait what do you mean by this?In post 822, Titus wrote:Anyone not seeing that this is staged Bell then Noraa flips is out of their minds imo.
Ok I see. You're probably right too. Bears is way too confident for pushing a miselimIn post 827, Titus wrote:Flip Bell.In post 826, Raya36 wrote:Wait what do you mean by this?In post 822, Titus wrote:Anyone not seeing that this is staged Bell then Noraa flips is out of their minds imo.
Bell flips town.
Flip Noraa.
Noraa flips wrong town.
this first line is gross. first off, there's an initial scumread before an omgus reaction, but you're treating them equally. second how on earth have you not been able to find a case of honest sorting this game lmfaoIn post 715, Titus wrote:In post 697, willow1 wrote:can you elaborate on those feelings? really curious why you're hesitant. trying to figure out how you're approaching this game because this doesn't seem to line up w/ other games i have spectatedIn post 694, Titus wrote:I wish I could join a popular wagon but I am just not feeling them, particularly these two.There's too much omgus. Anyone who FoSes anyone else gets an automatic scumread back. Nothing feels like it's honest sorting. (Note: Honest means intellectually honest, not town/scum indicative).
I'm looking for someone with a deep, nuanced, possibly accurate read of the game to be my anchor. I haven't found it yet so I'm going through the game again.
I really like a Dunn scumread based on the vote history but I don't feel strong enough to case him.
this is fundamentally untrue of anyone even remotely familiar with bell's play. he actively feels bad for his scumteam as he struggles with motivation and it is 100% up his alley to give one last attempt to cleanse his conscienceIn post 734, Titus wrote:Anything is possible.In post 725, Bamboozle wrote:I don't think so. Scum!Bell could just feel bad doing that to his teammates knowing everyone will read a silent replace out as extremely scum-indicative for him. I think the final post is pretty NAI.It's more likely scum!Bell would leave nothing.It's worth noting no one interacted with what he did leave.
vfp wagon was dead, moved to second choice. didn't like the random townblock, never explained iirc, early answer to raya still rough
bejeweled 2 deluxe lmaoIn post 768, Esooa wrote:what gamesIn post 766, willow1 wrote:gonna be real i'm playing video games tonight instead of reading lol, sorry
Really? I wouldn't expect her to go against the grain this much as scum, regardless of Bell's alignment, reallyIn post 828, willow1 wrote:i would dayvig titus if i could, not even remotely trying to use the wagons or vote patterns a divining tool other than this awkward defense of bell (bell should be null at best, but pooky/retti are right on meta. i thought he siteflaked but he's still in for defcon)
ik people had questions for me, will circle back in a sec
why would you expect this lol, whiteknighting hoping they get flipped anyway is scum 101 and titus has watched day 1 scumflips sink scumteams completelyIn post 836, Retti wrote:Really? I wouldn't expect her to go against the grain this much as scum, regardless of Bell's alignment, reallyIn post 828, willow1 wrote:i would dayvig titus if i could, not even remotely trying to use the wagons or vote patterns a divining tool other than this awkward defense of bell (bell should be null at best, but pooky/retti are right on meta. i thought he siteflaked but he's still in for defcon)
ik people had questions for me, will circle back in a sec
In post 766, willow1 wrote:gonna be real i'm playing video games tonight instead of reading lol, sorry
I get that but doing it here feels like trying to fight the tide, like just an impossible level of momentum where saying anything is pointless. I guess that's dumb of me. I think seeing the way the votes went on Bell and panicking is understandable from a town POV who doesn't know what's what but of course the wagonomics or whatever don't really mean anything for Bell's alignment. Some of the reasoning she's had is just bad but that's not always scum indicative, really. I liked her points on Raya. I guess really I'm just townreading the conviction. I probably need to think it over.In post 838, willow1 wrote:why would you expect this lol, whiteknighting hoping they get flipped anyway is scum 101 and titus has watched day 1 scumflips sink scumteams completelyIn post 836, Retti wrote:Really? I wouldn't expect her to go against the grain this much as scum, regardless of Bell's alignment, reallyIn post 828, willow1 wrote:i would dayvig titus if i could, not even remotely trying to use the wagons or vote patterns a divining tool other than this awkward defense of bell (bell should be null at best, but pooky/retti are right on meta. i thought he siteflaked but he's still in for defcon)
ik people had questions for me, will circle back in a sec
i'm not saying there isn't town incentive to defend slots, to be clear, but confused as to why you expect the opposite. titus going with the flow in absence of a strong read or lack of appetite for her read is common. she has given some explanation on the bell read/pointing to lack of anchor that i don't really buy
Just use it onIn post 803, Retti wrote:Hold up, no one hammer yet. I had hinted at this earlier but now is a good time to out this:
I am a gladiator and there is a benefit to me using my ability.
There are two caveats to this: I have to use it twice, and it has to be before 7 days have passed in each day phase that I use it. If I meet those conditions, something good happens but I am going to be as vague as possible otherwise to avoid giving away too much information. I very nearly rage-dueled Esooa in the midst of our argument but I'm glad I calmed down and decided against it. This is why I asked if people were okay with voting out Bell, because if so I can just safely piledrive him with no worries. This wouldn't change anything about the day but I really want to use my ability here.
In post 585, Titus wrote:I am going to be blunt with you.In post 581, MathBlade wrote:I’ve had a town read on you.In post 580, Titus wrote:What caused your read change on me?In post 578, MathBlade wrote:I agree Titus is probably town which means she’s gonna say I suck at working together no matter what despite me in prior games actually being good town and she was in scums pocket so hard I deviated at the very end.
Your townread is conditional on Dunn because you want me to stop pushing my top scumreads of Cakez and Pooky and consolidate super early.I am using the Dunn wagon to get reads. Such static reads aren't good. Use the wagon as a way to check your reads rather than supposing you're right. Let yourself and others solve the game over time.
How to host a murder isn't solved round 1.
why on earth would anyone have this conviction for bell town after even a single game of playing w/ bell lmfaoIn post 841, Retti wrote:I get that but doing it here feels like trying to fight the tide, like just an impossible level of momentum where saying anything is pointless. I guess that's dumb of me. I think seeing the way the votes went on Bell and panicking is understandable from a town POV who doesn't know what's what but of course the wagonomics or whatever don't really mean anything for Bell's alignment. Some of the reasoning she's had is just bad but that's not always scum indicative, really. I liked her points on Raya. I guess really I'm just townreading the conviction. I probably need to think it over.
Yeah I was kind of getting cold feet thinkking "eh what if it's a pure coincidence and he's an AFK town PR" but I think I'm gonna yoloIn post 842, Bamboozle wrote:Just use it onIn post 803, Retti wrote:Hold up, no one hammer yet. I had hinted at this earlier but now is a good time to out this:
I am a gladiator and there is a benefit to me using my ability.
There are two caveats to this: I have to use it twice, and it has to be before 7 days have passed in each day phase that I use it. If I meet those conditions, something good happens but I am going to be as vague as possible otherwise to avoid giving away too much information. I very nearly rage-dueled Esooa in the midst of our argument but I'm glad I calmed down and decided against it. This is why I asked if people were okay with voting out Bell, because if so I can just safely piledrive him with no worries. This wouldn't change anything about the day but I really want to use my ability here.Bell
-Bam
While he was actually posting, he fit that scum mould of posting but no content though. I think he's probably busy irl either way and not lying about that, but I think as town he'd be much more likely to power through it because he a genuine interest for the game.In post 776, Raya36 wrote:I'm back to do the things I promised I'd do.
Bell meta:
Looking at town bell, post count is massive and they start off strong as a heavy poster. Scum bell the posting is generally a bit lower and they still post decently heavy at the beginning but it seems to be less full of content.
This bell:
Very low post count and hasn't really done much content wise. The reason I'm still hesitant to say this is scum bell is because in their scum meta they still post a lot as scum early, it's just lacking content. I want to say bell was just honestly too busy and that's what prevented them from being able to post much. It is possible though that they were struggling to get into the game though as their scum meta shows, especially since I'm even struggling a lot to get into this game and that's not usual for me.