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[VP Baltar]

If Iconeum or Gypyx don't flip scum, I feel like it's almost got to be IV and one of Anya/AliceK.

Norwegian could be wolfing, but that seems like a "break glass" kind of emergency consideration. I think the above breakdown is a pretty solid path to town victory with zero PR help.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: anya

also i pulled an allnighter and that's been forever and i'm at work and if i'm slow to respond whatever

Interesting how Icon chose the Anya wagon over the George wagon here, which made the VC look like this:

Vote Count 1.12

Anya

(4) -> Datisi, Luca Blight, VP Baltar, Iconeum [E-3]

GeorgeBailey

(3) -> Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE

AliceK

(2) -> innocentvillager, geraintm

Gypyx

(1) -> GeorgeBailey

Iconeum

(1) -> Anya

Not_Mafia

(1) -> Not_Mafia

innocentvillager

(1) -> AliceK

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)

seeing that votecount i'd do it again

[Iconeum]

VOTE: GB

anya's recent posting is someting she can hopefully keep up
GB is just blatantly stalling at this point, doing jack shit. If this is town, then it's not a bad yeet anyway

If I had time i'd probably push Luca here while hiding behind wooper, but weekend vla is soonish and deadline etc

I'll take that fight tomorrow if there's a chance

Icon makes this vote after both Wooper and I have stated a TR on Anya, meaning he probably realizes it’s bus or bust at this point

Also Icon, what did you mean by

‘I’d probably push Luca here while hiding behind Wooper

’?

there were options for scum!me to *do things* actively and steer away from a bus
could do myself, could hide behind others who wanted to *do things* like Wooper for instance

[Iconeum]

instead you assume scum!me just sits by watching everything go to shit until eventually i have no choice but to bus?

i'm not saying i'm a scum mastermind, but i can hold my own a little more than what ur saying here

datisi knew, and also pointed that out IIRC

[Iconeum]

This almost seems like something that was meant for the scum pt

jezus fuck dude give me a break lol

no

that was not meant for any thread outside of this one

[Iconeum]

you just keep looking and looking and looking and for every point i manage to counter you just try to find new ones

[Iconeum]

So far all Icon has done today is say why he's not scum

I'd like to see some actual reads/thoughts soon

yeah gee i wonder how that's possible

maybe if you didn't spend every single post you make pushing me around i wouldn't feel the need to keep defending myself?

who knows really

[Iconeum]

-luca: relentlessy pushes ico

-ico: defends himself

-also luca: omg ico ur so defensive

fuckkkkkkk

[Iconeum]

like

if this town is incapable of townreading me might as well just yeet me and get it over with

[Iconeum]

at this point i'm feeling like i'd legit be more happy in the dead thread then i here

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ico what do you think about Baltars reads?

[Iconeum]

ico u have literally used the exact "scum!me wouldn't NK town!datisi here bc x, y, z" wifom before as scum

so why should i believe any of what you're saying here on Datisi's death

you can believe whatever you want

if you think i'm scum you vote me

if you think i'm town you don't

i've spent nothing but time defending myself today and i'm being forced in defending myself in a way that will only look more and more scummy as time goes on, which will do nothing for me either way

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you disagree you shouldn't be PoE here? I don't feel like you've been very townie, and instead of focusing on how town u are by meta (which was already said to be something you tend to do as scum anyway?) why not tell us who the scum are if it's not you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your read on Gypyx too would be appreciated.

[Anya]

-luca: relentlessy pushes ico

-ico: defends himself

-also luca: omg ico ur so defensive

fuckkkkkkk

ico feels really defensive in this post

[Anya]

ico seems a lot more focused on defending himself than actually finding wolves so we probably got him time to slay the dragon

[Iconeum]

Going to give my full take on the game because I think things have actually sorted somewhat clearly at this point already.

Town:

Not_Mafia

- hearing no counter to his vig shot, seems to be town. (There's no way a normal would put an extra killing scum's hands for a night would it?)

Geraintm

- his informed role about a strongman seems legit considering town had a roleblocker. He's either gutsy af scum, or just plain town.

Norwegian

- His push on George D1 seems pretty legit to me after I reviewed it. Could have been a preplanned bus, but I didn't get that vibe from his posting.

Luca

- He seems to be solving today. I'm not sure on the actual reasons people are saying they suspect him other than

~hand waving~

meta.

Who the heck knows:

Anya

- lol, I mean whatever. Probably town, but I've got no clue.

AliceK

- Really haven't seen any substance here yet.

All the scum are likely in this pile:

innocent villager

- Not sure if it's just style clashing here, but I didn't like his waffling on Anya and George yesterday, or his kind of overstating his importance today. IDK. Something about him is just pinging me weird. I could be wrong here though.

Gypyx

- Lots of unexplained reads throughout the game, and doesn't seem to have a clear viewpoint on the game. Not looking great. Kind of camped on George without hard pushing it.

Iconeum

- Already stated why I think this is scum.

your NM townread is meh. his claim forces it, and is actually a gift here
geraint remains town, even tho i'd just *want* to scumread him ya feel - nothing special
same goes for norwegian, i doubt he's bussing that strong on day 1 but what do i know
luca is definitely in the wrong spot. maybe i'm biased, but i strongly feel he needs me dead here for reasons that go beyond just scumreading me
that you have anya as a nullread is fine, but aliceK should be scummier? Anya is doing things *her* way and kinda picked up after pressure yesterday
aliceK seems to be actively avoiding contributing anything, but i should need to reread ISO because i cant really remember much about this slot
i don't like the IV scumread, i think he's town. Switch with luca. He feels more solvey in any case. Less agenda-y
Gypyx goes higher as well - imo. Why? I don't really know. I don't scumread him. His posts don't feel forced.

[Iconeum]

If Iconeum or Gypyx don't flip scum, I feel like it's almost got to be IV and one of Anya/AliceK.

Norwegian could be wolfing, but that seems like a "break glass" kind of emergency consideration. I think the above breakdown is a pretty solid path to town victory with zero PR help.

i didn't realllly particularly like your slot, but our reads aren't very far apart
luca / IV are the main problems there

[Iconeum]

Ico what do you think about Baltars reads?

wellll

[Luca Blight]

Icon, do you scumread me purely because I SR you?

[Iconeum]

Do you disagree you shouldn't be PoE here? I don't feel like you've been very townie, and instead of focusing on how town u are by meta (which was already said to be something you tend to do as scum anyway?) why not tell us who the scum are if it's not you?

it's one of those moments where i just dont really expect to be scumread after day 1 and night 1 events, and the pressure on me today kinda caught me off guard and is actually annoying me to a point where i seem to be losing focus

i *am* trying to make something right now, we'll see i guess

[Iconeum]

Your read on Gypyx too would be appreciated.

it's a gut gut gut read, but not a scum gut read

[Iconeum]

-luca: relentlessy pushes ico

-ico: defends himself

-also luca: omg ico ur so defensive

fuckkkkkkk

ico feels really defensive in this post

yeah i wonder how that's possible

only scum are defensive when under pressure, right?

[Iconeum]

ico seems a lot more focused on defending himself than actually finding wolves so we probably got him time to slay the dragon

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[Iconeum]

Icon, do you scumread me purely because I SR you?

saying that i'm not triggered by it would be a lie