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yes i think the most likely team is llama/umlaut/outworld but there is an asterisk there holy shitI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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In post 3236, Something_Smart wrote:and also umlaut is scüm
quality? postsIn post 3247, Something_Smart wrote:
why would you vote one half of a 1v1 because the other half is refusing to do something you want?In post 3241, Datisi wrote:i understand your feeling on the first one but i'm gonna need an elaboration on the second one
especially since it's not really a 1v1, and the question llama is refusing to answer is extremely pertinent to this (and llama is actively hindering our ability to understand the gamestate by not answering it), but umlaut is nevertheless treating it like it is, and somehow not trying to punish llama for preventing us from understanding what's going on.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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In post 3127, OutWorldER wrote:@mod Would a Mailman still give a positive result to a TA if the Mailman Enabler is dead?
I'm fairly certain the answer is no but I want to check.
Regardless I'm of the opinion that TA is more likely to be a scum role here, especially if the Mailman is Loyal as was speculated earlier.In post 3133, OutWorldER wrote:Not voting until I see Llama's claim in response.
It'll be fairly easy to tell who's lying in this situation.In post 3264, OutWorldER wrote:VOTE: Anya
Town TA would be worthless, and Scum TA puts Anya's quickhammer into context. This situation is self-resolving anyways,.especially if Llama is softing what I think he's softing
how is this townIn post 3267, OutWorldER wrote:If my assumption is correct, we have:
Llama (TA-positive)
Llama's partner(s) (Other TA-positive)
Mailman
Neighborizer
Neighborizerd
By D2, that is at least 5 players that can give false positives. While "worthless" is an exaggeration, I don't think a reasonable mod would add a role that would be more likely to out and kill town than scum.
i had no fuckign clue what llama was softing, what did you think was he softing???I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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when was this town ever working together anyway...I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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if he's town, we've lost long before this day
i'm just afraid of dying before massclaimI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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we're still here oi
i'm surprised llama hasn't selfhammered considering a conftown is voting him? or is scum genuinely playing longcon
actually no i should say that that is not true everything is fine it's just 7p lylo lol
i feel like i have things to say in case i for but how does one say them
who knowsI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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lol good luck with thatI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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you do get why i am being this anxious about getting the massclaim done today right?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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hm
i was about to write "well what if samantha voting me wrong is your only ticket to victory" but then i realized in scum!ico world at least one of umlaut/outworld is town soooo hmmI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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ok ok something else that was bothering me - your play around s_s was weird? how sure were you that anya is scum yesterday?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that makes sense stop making senseeeeeeI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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it happens lol, i'm still scumreading her too
but that isn't exactly what i'm asking
also funny shit, scum!me played slightly longcon last time i was in lylo because i have trauma
i think my partner wanted to murder me lol
anywayI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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dude i'm ending this say either by voting llama or cheering from the sidelines, i'm just trying to lighten the atmosphere
bc there is still that one Problem looming at me and ajshskakbsI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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it's ok umlaut you can keep thinking about what to fakeclaim until day 5.
whatever. if tomorrow i'm chilling in the dead thread with luca, there will be explaining to do.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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do i still need to post to not get prodded?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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oh look at that, i am alive
isn't that lovelyI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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we surely do massclaim now, yes? okay? greatI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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imagine where we would've been now is anya hadn't quickhammere don day 2
imagine where we would've been if luca hadn't unvoted llama on day one :(I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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idk, like, umalut, sam, me, you? but also can shuffle those last three around idkIn post 3642, Iconeum wrote:suggestion for order, datisi?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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ico, do you like, genuinely think anything here is within my scumrange lol?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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but also uhh scum!you never *not* kills me in the past two nights, right...?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'd rather wait outing anything actually ai before mass but idk anymore
pedit: yeah sure.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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no he didn't, he made some weird "if i'm scum here i know what i'll claim" post, which implied he'll be fakeclaiming vt but i'd rather wait to make it officialI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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sooooo... i'm assuming you're claiming the first one?In post 350, samantha97 wrote:I have innate cop power role you're both gonna get showed up sryI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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aight.
am vt.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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c'mon ico drop it alreadyI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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figured.
you have *no fucking idea* how hard my heart sank when, literally 30 seconds after samantha hammered rathe, i realized one of ico's posts was a loyal mailman soft.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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there's a lot of shit still bothering me tho, i'll lay it out sometime today for us to have a lovely chat tomorrow morning.
main one being this post.In post 3310, Something_Smart wrote:
Well if there's an ungated loyal mailman then they need to claim so we can murderize Anya with extreme prejudice. But until that happens I'll assume there isn't.In post 3304, Iconeum wrote:there is a high ++chance of there being (loyal?) mailman, which is stronger than TA? No?
ico, what was your reaction to reading this?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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basically the biggest mystery of the day is gonna be "does ico take me to lylo where he knows he has to claim stronk pr to not get murdered immediately". and like i wanna say the answer is no. but also s_s made that one post and he's fucking dead. but also also if ico killed me earlier he wouldn't even have to claim in the first place or just claim basic mailman and uuuuuughI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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oh yeah, i caught you being a power role way earlier, i think my first pings were on like page 3? i'll dig up my crumbs of that at some point too
also, both times when i started saying how i'm getting paranoid of you, that was utter bullshit, i wanted to sink your overall towncred a bit so that you don't get killed
i found it funny how you started townreading me *because* of "scumtisi doesn't bullshit paranoia on me here" when i was legit struggling to come up with reasons to suspect you but i decided to run with itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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does scumconeum take me to lylo in hopes i vote with him so that he can rub it in my face later...
i can hear luca screaming from the dead thread
towntisi is in lylo
as he is town-aligned this game, he is not happy about thatI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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because massclaim. ico has been softing loyal mailman for a while. he knows that i've noticed it, and he's signaled it back to me that he's noticed my noticing. if he came here today claiming "just" mailman, it's an almost insta-vote from me. and it's not a nice 1v1 to end up in.In post 3682, samantha97 wrote:first, why have both of you, in multiple ways, suggested that koto was not going to be/would possibly not be the nk last night?
second, even though one has an enabler and the other has obfuscation, town has 2 cops in a 13p game supposedly... does that not seem op?
sidenote, something like that is similar to what's happened in the last game ico was scum against me - i saw what i thought were mason softs, i backed off of him because mason softs, and i mentioned that if the day's yeet flipped tpr, ico is probably scum (because no room for masons, but i didn't say that part). the day's yeet did flip tpr, and... he promptly killed me that night, with nobody else seeing those softs.
that is why i've been extremely jumpy about massclaiming *while i am alive*, bc i assumed me and luca were the only ones to see the loyal mailman softs, and luca is kinda dead. i figured scum!ico could get away with claiming ~just mailman~ if i'm dead, which is why i tried to drop as many hints to *loyal* as possible, in hopes that if the evil dragon does kill me, town maybe actually figures out what i was talking about.
and, from town!ico pov, he's a pr. and he knows i know he's a pr. which means i probably wouldn't have let him live for very long if *i* were scum. arguably, because rathe is dead and he's now just a vt with a fancy name, any "i would have killed ico here because i knew he was pr!!" argument from me is kinda bland, and possibly untrue, but anyway.
which brings onto the second problem of... traffic analyst + loyal mailman in game is a lot of power. arguably too much. i don't know, i have a bad habit of incorrectly locking people's alignments based on my faulty mech assumptions. anyway, after anya flipped ta, i was deadset on this being a repeat of that last game, on ico being a scum mailman (a "claimable miller" to the traffic analyst, idk it made sense to me in those moments of panic), and me being about to get brutally murdered *again*, because surely he's not gonna try to actually claim loyal mailman with a flipped traffic analyst, so gotta get rid of the only alive person that saw what he was softing. ...except i then didn't die. twice. and he still claimed loyal mailman. so like idek anymore what the fuck is happening. this was what my "surely scumconeum kills me here?" shtick was about.
like, this feels like a path of more resistance for scum!ico. he could've just killed me way way earlier and not have claimed this claim that puts the spotlight on him because "loyal mailman + traffic analyst + whatever else we have flipped????". but is this scum!ico taking sick pleasure in taking me to lylo after that one game where i did the same to him? i don't know. i don't want to think it is.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that you shouldn't colour yourself green when you're not confirmed town.In post 3683, samantha97 wrote:bonus question to everyone: what is your takeaway from reading this?
arguably, that llama, outworld, and umlaut have been avoiding each other's wagons like the plague.
i'll be properly here after i catch some sleep (and well when ico is here as well), but i'm maybe around for half an hour or so now, so if you have any quick q's, shoot.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this will be a long painful lylo, huh
actually maybe not long
but definitely painfulI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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any comment i could've said would've been something along the lines of "okay then". i'd just said i think umlaut is probscum. ico/outworld would fuck us here, but like. i'm tired.In post 3689, samantha97 wrote:hmm no comment from datisi for 40 minutes
pedit: oh god ico is here
probably gonna need to get to my laptop for thisI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that should've said "oh good" not "oh god" lolI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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... lol?In post 3701, Iconeum wrote:i've just gone thru your iso, it barely mentions him at allI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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how the fuck did you just "go through her iso" and not have noticed the 100+ times outworld is mentioned or quoted in it?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'm currently musing about a possible ico/outworld team, and like, not being hammered doesn't prove anything yet considering ico wasn't even online for most of that. but again the q is how much arguing about that i have leftIn post 3704, Umlaut wrote:Haven't really thought about this today, but the fact I haven't been hammered kind of narrows it down here.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i just opened her iso and ctrl+f'ed "outworld", there are 100+ matchesIn post 3705, Iconeum wrote:
whatIn post 3703, Datisi wrote:how the fuck did you just "go through her iso" and not have noticed the 100+ times outworld is mentioned or quoted in it?
so again, how did you "just go through her iso"?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i mean, she was also very loud about wanting him dead on like days 1 and 2I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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okay that kinda explains it i guess. cool.
anyway, the fact that umlaut resigned to the 1v1 without thinking about the fact that ico wasn't online and couldn't have hammered anyway is like. not giving me good vibes.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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ico i have 600+ posts. i'm not scum lolI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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at the time, i thought this was actually a masons-with-samantha crumb. which i why i went from scumreading to "idk she prob town lol" samantha on d1. i think i crumbed that a few times? mainly my "scum!me never kills luca or andres on n1 here" was a sorta "i saw the masons" thing. except that theory fell apart when sam quickhammered rathe and ico had been softing mailman. made no sense for mason buddies.In post 440, Iconeum wrote:I think we shouldn't be pushing Samantha, that is all.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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yeah i'm like. slow bc morning and also wondering if ico/outworld makes enough sense that i should be panicking about a quickhammer here. i don't think ico/umlaut makes any sense.
pedit: it's bothered me all game, ico. but i'm not about to go off when i'm this physically tired and she's not voting me. yet.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that wasn't my question. like, assuming you're town loyal mailman and assuming you trust s_s to make mech calls, this should've made anya +++scum to you. yet your posts after s_s's 3310 are kinda hedgy. i'm just, not 100% sure they make sense from a loyal-mailman!pov?In post 3692, Iconeum wrote:i didn't feel any pressure to claim at that time just to get anya flipped
was pretty set on getting the anya flip either way, my claiming at that point just gets me killed before massclaim
why scum kill SS? i dunno
fearkill probably?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'm not sure how you're getting to this conclusion. like all three of them were very present at derailing the infinity/llama wagons and driving it onto rathe. then days 2 and 3 were town shooting itself in the foot with anya quickhammering and then being yeeted for it the next day. and yesterday was auto by guilty. i'm not sure how you get to the conclusion that scum ought to have been ~doing things~ to get to this point when we've been running on autopilot since the end of day 2?In post 3716, Iconeum wrote:i don't really see umlaut with outworld? they've done ?? all game to get to this point?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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umlaut, why did you never respond to this?In post 3247, Something_Smart wrote:
why would you vote one half of a 1v1 because the other half is refusing to do something you want?In post 3241, Datisi wrote:i understand your feeling on the first one but i'm gonna need an elaboration on the second one
especially since it's not really a 1v1, and the question llama is refusing to answer is extremely pertinent to this (and llama is actively hindering our ability to understand the gamestate by not answering it), but umlaut is nevertheless treating it like it is, and somehow not trying to punish llama for preventing us from understanding what's going on.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that wasn't what i said. i literally mentioned that the argument "i would have killed ico" is realistically untrue.In post 3690, OutWorldER wrote:I don't follow why Datisi gets townpoints for Ico being alive considering after Rathe elim the only function Ico had was as a named townie and he didn't use that to throw any weight around.
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I'm very paranoid of Datisi after my experience modding 2195 but tbh I'm checked out of this game and kinda want to just defer to Ico's experience with Datisi on this. I'll still him a lookover though.
this just feels fake. like, 2195 was one of my better scumgames. and it's *nowhere near* my play this game. like, i'd understand this on day 1 when i was being kinda lowkey but come on now.
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meh. from my pov it was *extremely* obvious you were the mailman bc you just kept throwing crumb after crumb. i figured you *wanted* others to see it and would've actually doubled down on anya being scum there, and not make some of the "do we massclaim?", "weIn post 3726, Iconeum wrote:hedge where????probablyflip anya here" etc posts.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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maybe 25%? i dunno. like the fact that s_s made it very clear those two roles cannot coexist... it's messing with my head.
also class in 5 minutes so. i'll be back in some 4-5 hours.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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so i'm kinda scrolling around llama's iso and i find this and like surely... surely he didn't...In post 1592, LlamaFluff wrote:Anyway, I think my big takeaway from a quick read is OW is town. VT claim in this situation to me is a massive towntell, its not like there is no other wagon that things can shift off to.Its almost strong enough that if OW is scum, I think it forces Umulat to be scum because that would have probably been where all the attention went(note that only works one way, OW-town or Umulat-scum by itself doesnt massively impact the other). Unless site meta has massively shifted, a D1 PR claim unless it really makes no sense, gets countered, etc tends to live... VT not so much. So yeah, defense mode on OW activated based on the classic tells.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i am somewhat concerned that both umlaut and outworld are kinda... ignoring both me and ico?
why is outworld willing to trust ico on me when he's apparently paranoid of me? why isn't he then trying to change my mind when i obviously think he's scum and he's not trying to interact with my q's toward him? what is this gameI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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every time i try to think about this game i always just circle back to "man. two investigatives able to get a clear a night is too much town power" and i'm like asdkjsfhgkjI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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because 2157 still haunts my nightmaresIn post 3753, Iconeum wrote:why haven't you layed out full mech spec yet?
but ok
town odd-night combined neighbourizer rolestopper
town macho traffic analyst
town loyal mailman
town doctor
town mailman enabler
5x vt
mafia goon
2x mafia ???
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town odd-night combined neighbourizer rolestopper
town macho traffic analyst
town doctor
town mailman enabler
6x vt
mafia mailman
mafia goon
mafia ???
like. for that first one to work i feel like the remaining scum would have to be hella boosted. maybe informed or smt. obviously the neighbourizer becomes a false positive to the ta and their target is a false positive for the loyal mailman but like is that enough?
bc like. even if you kill the mailman enabler. shit, even if you kill the mailman himself, the last message will still be sent out and it's a potential clear if town is smart about claiming mail.
vs the second one some sorta macho cop, a doctor, a half-doctor who also creates false-positives, and a scum you cannot guilty while the mailman enabler is aliveI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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of course, we could look at this the other way
why did ico soft loyal? that's incredibly dumb for scum!him because he'd have to treat whoever he sent mail to as conf-town
however however he did not solely crumb loyal, which we know bc he said he softed by mentioning 892 too
which means he might've not even been planning to claim loyal, but instead did it now because lol the mailman enabler is deadI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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anyone who is a negative to the ta is literally cleared (or traitor, but like when did you last see a traitor in the game so)In post 3757, Iconeum wrote:the TA, under 'normal' circumstances, does not generate clearsI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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nooot helpinngggg
maybe we should to this the old fashioned way (which always went amazingly well)
at some point you said you were obvtown this game, no? do you mind elaborating on that?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i mean the thing is i'm not even sure what your scum meta is anymore, it's been ages since i've played a proper game with scumconeum
i feel like your play here in lylo is kinda flat compared to some of the town!lylos i've seen you in, but the problem is i kinda feel like your most likely partner is outworld which is a world we always lose in anyway bc i don't think samantha's mind could ever be changed wrt umlaut
but that would also mean umlaut is town and he's like. not trying. and like my brain is struggling to consider there being town in umlaut/outworld because my god why are they just planking in lylo? that's not what town does?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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what's making you think samantha is scum?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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umlaut buddy why are you planking
the hecc are your reads
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