Newbie 2062: The Hubble Telescope - End!

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Clasko
It's impossible to be Pr twice in a row
/s

Also, I skipped over this, how dare you >:c
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[Andante]

If they are masons then at this point they might as well say so cause by what being said scum already know - if not then it's a sidetrack arguement to sow doubt among town

The lesser of two evils is ensuring Mafia aren't certain where the PR's are.

if they're both town, let maf think to hit in them. but I'm honestly not feeling town vibes from T3 so far

[Ivyeo]

Liking Adante's posts here, minus #39.

[Andante]

Ayyy I'm liking Rathe this game!!

What's wrong with me liking Rathe's entrance?

[RationalMadman]

T3 is just as easily town as scum. I would like T3 to justify his reads, the reasoning is important as he has outed an entire series of actual reads (in his post where he says I'm strong TR, Rathe is soft etc)

[Andante]

I don't like how quickly he declared reads tbh

[RationalMadman]

Orctin, what reads or questions do you have outside of T3 and myself? T3 is fine but my question is outside of your tunneled gameread based on everything surrounding me, what reads or questions have you got on/for others?

[RationalMadman]

Ivyeo contributing more will also help.

[RationalMadman]

Demainer the OP says you haven't confirmed your role as you are un-bolded on the player list. I'm aware you've posted, just letting you know.

[RationalMadman]

@mod see above

[T3]

When did reaction testing someone become this hard .-.
I buddied up with RM so I could read him better, and to a lesser extent bait te nightkill. RM had a towny reaction to it, basically his reaction was like: but I don't know if you are town. I feel like scum would basically try to tr me and keep me alive. RM didn't do that.

[orctin]

Interesting start to the game and quite an active day 1 but i think a lot of that came from Rational's stirring.

Honestly right now the most questionable on seems to be T3
Andante got caught up by Rational's early post so not really sure there
Ivyeo seems to be active but basically making simple post to appear participating with town without doing much to offend
Rathe - Similar - to Ivyeo
Jack - hasn't posted much except early
Clasko - good cover for that scum laying low but probably town
Demainer - still never explained that Ivy is scum vote post

If i was to guess - one of Rathe-Jack-Clasko-Ivy is scum
the other is with the rest of us (present company excluded)

[Andante]

Andante got caught up by Rational's early post so not really sure there

what is this supposed to mean?

[orctin]

The whole day started about your fun post early one - and been sidetracked since - so i dont have much a read on you yet

[Andante]

fair fair as stuff happens I'm sure you'll gather a read, I've just been busy IRL, so that + not much happening here... I've just been reading to get caught up. Rational has so many posts, I'm trying to figure out if he's scum trying to take control, or just being a really active town member

[orctin]

Same, but i think thats just who he is - or his style - he seems to run in spurts there quick to judgement and throwing accusations just to see what sticks

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: rationalmadman

This is fairly likely Town, just a gut-read from reciprocating a read I haven't actually announced yet.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: rationalmadman

For me Rational is strong town and Andante is lean scum. Explain?

Andante's playstyle seems to get them scum-read way early on. Just throwing that out there now rather than later

[JacksonVirgo]

Why would there be any issue in having two votes on Andante, and if you think they are scum why are you actively *not* wanting to wagon them? Also you explained the Ivyeo town-read but then didn't explain the reason you TR me for my logic, could you please do that

If I vote two votes this early on someone, it has very bad consequences if even one other person decides to go for it. Regardless of me being right or wrong, it's a much better position in early D1 bandwagons to either lead hard on a hard read or be positioned on someone you're ready to unvote in an emergency, to test others (that is why everyone positions on different people with random votes).

There is no use of me tunneling Andante that hard and fast based solely on the reaction to me and the first post. Obviously it's a soft scumread, not a gard one.

Tbe effort you put into your first post would simply be overall a waste of effort if you're scum in a newbie game. You attacked, defended, analysed in ways that showed analysis of a deep kind and also probed questions and replied from others. Even now, you are trying to spot flaws in thinking in me despite me townreading you. This all balances as town or extremely overplaying scum.

Overplaying scum is fine, however it's not likely you'd try this hard just for the first few posts you make in a newbie game unless you really wanted slips and reads to occur.

1. It takes 5 players to hammer, and if anybody speed-hammers they can be the next elimination there is absolutely no reason why you don't vote who you scum-read early on especially when it's only one vote on them beforehand. A wagon is a pro-town event as we get more information on the people who you think are scum. Avoiding that is anti-town as we get less information.

[JacksonVirgo]

So at this point most the basis or accusations on because of Andante's opening post and Rationals response to it. Logically scum doesn't want to try to attract attention early on, it's better play for them to try to lay low to some extent and let town make mistakes lynching their own. Except for that rare scummie who just doesn't care and wants to go gun's a blazing

Rational seems to be a heavy poster - quick to search out rabbit holes it seems
Andante - aside from one joke post which was probably cause she played with that person before, nothing much
T3 seems to be reactive - Basically questioning post from different people
Demainer basically a simple - someone is guilty post with nothing behind it
Jackson - seems to a fun early post - then a logical one
Ivy - couple simple short post, nothing more

If i had to gut read anyone right now it would be Rational - playing the guns a blazing scummie out to prove themselves town to quickly

Vote: Rational

Since ya'll seem to like the early voting without much backing it or chance for people to discuss much yet, but it's also day 1 so probably not going to get a lot out of people

This vote seems out of nowhere and it's as if you feel the *need* to scum-read Rational without actually having the logic to do so. Whether that be because of the statement I said from earlier or whatnot, not feeling good about Rational/Orc to be completely honest.

[JacksonVirgo]

Interesting start to the game and quite an active day 1 but i think a lot of that came from Rational's stirring.

Honestly right now the most questionable on seems to be T3
Andante got caught up by Rational's early post so not really sure there
Ivyeo seems to be active but basically making simple post to appear participating with town without doing much to offend
Rathe - Similar - to Ivyeo
Jack - hasn't posted much except early
Clasko - good cover for that scum laying low but probably town
Demainer - still never explained that Ivy is scum vote post

If i was to guess - one of Rathe-Jack-Clasko-Ivy is scum
the other is with the rest of us (present company excluded)

That is terrible reasonings as to throw me into the scum-pile. It's as if you feel threatened that I possibly nailed the scum-team on the head again ahaha
I have no idea where I am voting but this is as good of a place as any.

Rational if they are Town are more of an asset atm due to their varying reads.
VOTE: Orc

[Andante]

VOTE: rationalmadman

For me Rational is strong town and Andante is lean scum. Explain?

Andante's playstyle seems to get them scum-read way early on. Just throwing that out there now rather than later

hahaha it's kinda funny how that always seems to happen everyone SRs me, then they realize I'm town, and we find scum and win

[orctin]

Jack - I'm basing off two 2 scum - one being active and posting - hoping to control - the other more laid back - you fit into the later group but with multiple people.
I think it's rare you get 2 scum who are both pushing heavy but it's possible but i would suspect one scum in the heavy chatters and one in the more reserve chatters

And you seriously say Rational is more town for his half cooked reads early on just to make them, lol. interesting

[Andante]

Time for everyone's favorite part of the game!!! 1st post analysis!! Also known as entrance analysis. Last time I did this I was 0/2 on finding scum, so lets see how this goes.

T3 - Entrance is terrible. " tr on RationalMadman for actually doing stuff." this logic feels very flawed also "I don't think "sarcastic" RVS posts are that AI but I didn't like Andnte's reaction." is bad. Scum.
Ivyeo - 1st post of the game, and honestly, it feels really towny to me, unless it's bold scum going "It's impossible to be Pr twice in a row" but a good entrance. Town.
Demainer - The entrance mixed with responding to T3 feels towny to me. I like the entrances where people place votes. Town.
orctin - I like this entrance. Town vibes! Town.
Clasko - Very cautious entrance followed by various reactions to people, feels like a very "forced" entrance, it doesn't feel natural. Scum.
Andante - Town AF
RationalMadman - As an entrance you decided to attack my first post. I liked my entrance, it's called overwhelm them with words. Paragraphs make people panic more than 1 line, but your entrance was very reactionary, which feels scummy to me. Scum.
Rathe - I completely agree with their first 2 posts, same train of thought as me, so likely town.
JacksonVirgo - Chad is a country, so thanks! All lines after calling me Chad are pretty good, and I especially don't see scum trying to help someone with a read on me lol cause I'm an easy push and you know it. Town.

T3,Rational,Clasco are scummiest to me right now, and T3 and Rational are not scum, so by POE clasco should go

Ivy is lean town for me if Demainer is scum. Other than that, I'm not sure about Ivy.

Ok, I normally TR trying to quickly get through RVS, but like, T3 is way too serious this early, he's watching Rational and trying to mimic?? idk, I'm pointing this out cause it feels weird

[fferyllt]

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