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[innocentvillager]

Dude, you realize your waffling yesterday looked like you were hoping Anya ate it while you white knighted, right?

that is not an argument ive heard before actually. it's actually not terrible

but a) in what world does that get me towncred b) clearly i was trying and GeorgeBailey was the next elim. it's way too much risk for the reward. but i guess that argument is at least defensible

[Luca Blight]

GeorgeBailey as Mafia goon is like a sacrificial goat

You’d have to bus him at some point, and sooner the better for the benefit of associatives

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't really feel like Ico's towntold so i'm not really understanding why Gypyx is gaining votes again.

[innocentvillager]

sorry guys this happens sometimes to me. if you guys suspect me that's fine regardless of the reasons. i just get very very frustrated when i feel ive been blatantly obvtown and people want to kill me anyway. i need to deal with it better, this is mafia

if you decide i am most likely scum, i will eat the miselim. i will try very hard to not be toxic when going down. im just annoyed that's all, sorry again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thing is, you're not the one that decides you have been obvtown. But understand the frustration, assuming it's not just an fake outburst.

[VP Baltar]

Dude, you realize your waffling yesterday looked like you were hoping Anya ate it while you white knighted, right?

that is not an argument ive heard before actually. it's actually not terrible

but a) in what world does that get me towncred b) clearly i was trying and GeorgeBailey was the next elim. it's way too much risk for the reward. but i guess that argument is at least defensible

I don't think it would necessarily get you town cred.

You've kind of tried to get some points for it by saying you defended Anya, but IF you're scum, I think you maybe forgot to vote and got called on it. Mistakes happen as scum.

It was a risk for sure, but also - in my experience - you do need to take some risks as scum to actually win. Playing too safe leads to getting PoEd many times. Trust me, I suck at risk taking as scum, and I often lose as scum.

[VP Baltar]

I don't really feel like Ico's towntold so i'm not really understanding why Gypyx is gaining votes again.

I don't think gypyx looks town at all. It may be too easy of a solve that they are both scum. Idk. I really hate the stall tactics gypyx is using and his reads have no explanation

[innocentvillager]

calling it stall tactics seems a little extreme he's just not here imo

[Luca Blight]

He was here enough to argue about whether or not he should explain his read on you

It would have been quicker just to write a sentence or two in summary of the read

[Luca Blight]

Given IV is by far gypyx’s biggest SR, it’s strange how he has zero interest in actually promoting his lim

[Luca Blight]

And given how upset IV is at being scumread generally, it’s strange how he’s letting this slide from gypyx

[innocentvillager]

i don't really think there's a strong correlation between alignment and someone's read on me necessarily, not sure why you're implying it's weird i don't think so

[innocentvillager]

ive said multiple times i think gypyx is townlean for me

[innocentvillager]

I don't really feel like Ico's towntold so i'm not really understanding why Gypyx is gaining votes again.

i also don't feel like Ico has towntold

[innocentvillager]

there's probably scum in {Alice, Ico} for that weird exchange between them though. i feel like Ico weirdly moving into Alice's PoE is weird but im not sure if that should implicate Alice or if it's just a convenient push by scum!ico

[innocentvillager]

Dude, you realize your waffling yesterday looked like you were hoping Anya ate it while you white knighted, right?

that is not an argument ive heard before actually. it's actually not terrible

but a) in what world does that get me towncred b) clearly i was trying and GeorgeBailey was the next elim. it's way too much risk for the reward. but i guess that argument is at least defensible

I don't think it would necessarily get you town cred.

You've kind of tried to get some points for it by saying you defended Anya, but IF you're scum, I think you maybe forgot to vote and got called on it. Mistakes happen as scum.

It was a risk for sure, but also - in my experience - you do need to take some risks as scum to actually win. Playing too safe leads to getting PoEd many times. Trust me, I suck at risk taking as scum, and I often lose as scum.

the point is it wouldn't get me towncred so why would i do it. all it would look like is i somehow had TMI on Anya's alignment.

I have no idea what you're saying in the second line. Please elaborate

I agree with your third line about taking risks. but risks should be calculated not like, blatantly playing against wincon so you can go "WIFOM WIFOM i wouldn't do this" down the line.

[Luca Blight]

i don't really think there's a strong correlation between alignment and someone's read on me necessarily, not sure why you're implying it's weird i don't think so

You seem to think you’re obvtown and yet you’re and away gypyx’s biggest Sr

How is this not a problem for you? Aren’t you suspicious at all? Do you even know why he sr’s you?

[Luca Blight]

ive said multiple times i think gypyx is townlean for me

I know

[innocentvillager]

Gypyx is far from the only person who thinks i could be scum. why should the strength of that read matter?

i mean id like an explanation too but im not dying to know to sort him

[innocentvillager]

i mean there's probably some scumz out there who are opportunistically taking advantage of some townies suspecting me to slip me into the potential future miselim pool. i detest being miselimed to scum's agenda. or it could be the other way where scum were putting me in their PoE opportunistically and townies followed along. Or somewhere in between. idk man, mafia is hard

[Luca Blight]

Well basically I think your stances on each other are weird as fuck and it leads to believe there is at least one scum in you and gypyx, and quite possibly you’re both scum

[innocentvillager]

GeorgeBailey as Mafia goon is like a sacrificial goat

You’d have to bus him at some point, and sooner the better for the benefit of associatives

is this actually true? i remember lol!metaing him and he literally won the game for scum surviving to endgame

[Luca Blight]

Well it’s true in this game when he makes like one post every two rl days

[VP Baltar]

I have no idea what you're saying in the second line. Please elaborate

You have said multiple times that you should be obvtown based on D1. Tht is what I mean.

[innocentvillager]

Well basically I think your stances on each other are weird as fuck and it leads to believe there is at least one scum in you and gypyx, and quite possibly you’re both scum

weird =/= scummy

i conflate the two sometimes as well, but you're going to have to do better than "weird" if you're trying to attribute scum!indication to either of our reads

like how did me/anya interactions ping you yesterday? was our stance on each other not both "weird"?