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[Luca Blight]

hey um, this probably sounds terrible, but what's going on right now? sueling wagons between Anya / George?

I just realized this was gypyx's last post of D1

and Gypyx was definitely online during twilight.

[Luca Blight]

The scum motivation there is that he's on his partner's wagon so doesn't want to defend him/hop wagons and lose that potential towncred, but at the same time is hoping town screws up and lims Anya

Obviously it could be that all three of Anya/George/gypyx are scum but I'll put that possibility aside until later

[Iconeum]

i'm fairly sure alice flips scum here

i forgot about alice day 1 where i already had suspicion about their nice and shaved readslist, where i felt they were just making that checknote thing

and now the readflip on me based on stuff that didn't happen, while remaining on the background

[Iconeum]

VOTE: innocentvillager

I will land my vote here. He is overfocused on Datisi ignoring everything around him. It looks forced. Could it be that he is trying to avoid interactions with other players, because he doesn't feel comfortable in interactions with scum buddies.

Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion on Anya.

Ico is 100% Town or Has a dumb agenda

Anya's wagon can be pure. I actually missed a lot of content I will check her iso later. I just need to motivate myself to do sth

In Anya/George I think George is Mafia. Anya's initial posts feel like are coming from Town.

alice never moved their vote from IV, which was an early vote anyway
a little fencesitting around the competing wagons at EoD, without contributing much on either

comes into today with a full reverse read on me, without the reasons for townreading me in the first place changing and apparently making up the reasons that point towards scum!me

[Iconeum]

If George played a simple plan this is likely his partner.
VOTE: Gypyx

I would say VP, N_M and NorwegianBoy are Sage today. I think IV is sus, maybe I will find something interesting on eod.

Finally IV, has a similar eod to Ico, but after hammer he made few weird posts which I can't interpret which alignment it can be, so I would say he is slightly scummy.

Town members I have right now are Not_Mafia, NorwegianBoy, gerain, Luca, VP. No idea on Anya.

throughout Day 2 maintains a shadey read on IV, while if they were really scumreading IV like on day 1 i'd imagine town!alice to be happy about the pressure being put on IV and jumping on it or at least having a word in the discussion?

[Luca Blight]

Does anyone apart from gypyx know anything about town of salem?

Is it reasonable that a ToS crumb would point to him being a VT, or could it point towards a number of different roles?

[Iconeum]

You're saying scum doesn't get offended by that? 'cause i disagree

Nah, I agree with IV. A scummy response would have been to push someone to prove them wrong.

well, it's basically that i think scum is less likely to wanna like, openly make things easier for a quickhammer you see?

Why is that? Usually the blame is shifted to the person who hammered anyways. It seems beneficial to makes things easier for a quickhammer...?



Well, I think VP/Norwee/Gera are town.

Datisi/Iconeum are like, constantly going at each other, I honestly think Datisi looks the best there, since it's the norm for N_M to quickhammer, and Geraint says he's quickhammering when he can lol.

N_M did the N_M introduction.


IV i'm very unsure on, Alice seems like LHF. Anya is null too.

I have some tinfoil hat theory on Luca, based off a previous game.

VOTE: Gypyx

unlikely to be scum theatre imo
but i'm not that good so i can be wrong
still, it's my opinion

[Iconeum]

Aw, well at least i can delete this mess of a readslist. If I posted it i'd probably be hammered anyways.

It was just a consolidation vote on AliceK.

post-hammer distancing post?

[Luca Blight]

Why do you think it's unlikely? because it struck me as likely scum theatre even before george's flip

[VP Baltar]

I'd like Alice to respond to Ico's critiques of her case.

[Luca Blight]

I've just finished skimming gypyx's ISO. His opening is slightly +town, but apart from that I haven't found any of his content townie, and there's a lot of potential scum behavior in there like his lurking during EoD1, his interactions with george, his continued SR on IV which hasn't really developed and is founded on some really weak stuff imo

[Luca Blight]

I think Anya is the least interesting yeet out of the candidates on offer. I think she's slightly more likely town than not, but that's little more than a gut read tbh

[Iconeum]

Why do you think it's unlikely? because it struck me as likely scum theatre even before george's flip

because it lacks a reason to do so

[Iconeum]

maybe good scum players that are into a game can do some distancing theatre early on, but GB was anything but into this game and i doubt the stuff he'd be doing is gonna include pre-meditated distancing at that point

[Luca Blight]

The reason could be that George needs to vote someone, and voting your partner is a good way to look busy without making enemies amongst the town

plus it discourages people from voting gypyx, because who is going to want to sheep george?

and it gives insurance in case either one of them flips

[Luca Blight]

The fact george wasn't into the game is even more reason he'd want to distance as he'd know he wouldn't last long

[Luca Blight]

In Anya/George I think George is Mafia. Anya's initial posts feel like are coming from Town.

Why no george vote here?

[geraintm]

if you want to vote off Gypyx, you will need to do it without me.
Not voting there today at all.

[Luca Blight]

As I said earlier, I don't mind that at all given you said something similar about george D1

I'm still considering who I want to vote

[Luca Blight]

Thoughts on Alice, geraint?

[Luca Blight]

if I’m scum Anya is probably more likely to be town lol this is a classic scum!innocentvillager WK situation.

It's funny how IV said this and yet is now like '

why would I save Anya as scum'

[Luca Blight]

where are anyas scum buddies?

IV, you were pushing this argument D1 so I have a question for you

Who is Icon's partner here? You don't seem to think it's gypyx, so who is it, and why aren't you asking this same question now?

[Luca Blight]

fine VOTE: GeorgeBailey

This vote was actually forced at this point

because Baltar and Datisi were calling IV out for not committing to a viable wagon. IV was already voting Not_Mafia which no-one else was really interested in and he couldn't justify going back on Anya rather than George after everything he had said

[Luca Blight]

I need to review Icon again but I like my vote here for now

VOTE: InnocentVillager

[Luca Blight]

i could get behind a luca vote too

I also found this a weird thing to say at the time, given I was pushing IV's biggest SR (Icon) and later IV admitted he didn't dislike or disagree with anything I said, but felt I hadn't obvtowned enough. Why does that justify a vote on me rather than on someone you genuinely SR?

I just feel as though IV has been a bit slimy around me in general this game