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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:40 pm

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You can't be this stupid, seriously
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:40 pm

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If you think they're scum, fine they may be. But not asking for counterclaims is the scummiest thing I've ever heard in my life.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:43 pm

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Rathe/Rational is not a team. They wouldn't both make this play.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:44 pm

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In post 349, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 340, RationalMadman wrote:Andante had NO reason to out uet if Doc. I am guaranteeing yoy this is scum, I will take full blame. I have reread some pages I am absolutely certain Andante js scum here.
This is a strawmans argument.

They were obviously frustrated at being wagoned, just like last game that I played. It's nothing that indicates them as scum fake-claiming at fucking all.
Yoy want to force PRs to CC? That's the reason she did it. Your answer loes in what you're enabling.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:45 pm

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She CCs doc, a PR CCs her that is defensive or even better if its 2-goon setup there's comvos where nobody CCs her.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:47 pm

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From her perspective this is completely optimal to do as scum. She is running an extreme gambit here, hoping because she CCs before she's E-1 it makes her claimore believable.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:47 pm

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In post 350, JacksonVirgo wrote:You can't be this stupid, seriously
y would a doctor ever claim
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:47 pm

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She is fake I guarantee it. I will take the full blame.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:48 pm

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In post 353, RationalMadman wrote:
In post 349, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 340, RationalMadman wrote:Andante had NO reason to out uet if Doc. I am guaranteeing yoy this is scum, I will take full blame. I have reread some pages I am absolutely certain Andante js scum here.
This is a strawmans argument.

They were obviously frustrated at being wagoned, just like last game that I played. It's nothing that indicates them as scum fake-claiming at fucking all.
Yoy want to force PRs to CC? That's the reason she did it. Your answer loes in what you're enabling.
Scum would not fucking out this early when they can do so when they're in the worst possible position, being at E-1. They would not fucking do it this early and the way they did it was in frustration which aligns with what their town self has been acting like when getting wagoned early in multiple games. The frustration is valid, the way they claimed is valid, although dumb, and I am willing to bet my life that this is Town.

You're blindly wagoning this without ever paying attention to the person who actually has reasonings as to why the claiming is town!ai, or NAI at worst. You're either pushing an agenda or you're falling into confirmation bias heavily.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:49 pm

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In post 356, Rathe wrote:
In post 350, JacksonVirgo wrote:You can't be this stupid, seriously
y would a doctor ever claim
I HAVE FUCKING EXPLAINED THIS HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:49 pm

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No you haven't
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:49 pm

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YES I FUCKING HAVE
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:49 pm

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In post 352, JacksonVirgo wrote:Rathe/Rational is not a team. They wouldn't both make this play.
so what does that mean to u n what does it tell u
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:50 pm

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Scum dies and then the defensive PR dies. It's better from her perspective to CC here than when forced, because it takes only one brave towny to vote her off then
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:50 pm

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In post 362, Rathe wrote:
In post 352, JacksonVirgo wrote:Rathe/Rational is not a team. They wouldn't both make this play.
so what does that mean to u n what does it tell u
I am just saying that if one of you flip scum, the other is not scum.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:51 pm

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You sag she wouldn't risk it but she absolutely would. Think about the game from her perspective. She ix experiencing extreme pressure and is volatile, panicking.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:51 pm

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In post 363, RationalMadman wrote:Scum dies and then the defensive PR dies. It's better from her perspective to CC here than when forced, because it takes only one brave towny to vote her off then
Wait did they cc someone. I thought they just claimed out of frustration.

I should probably catch up on the full thread before saying shit
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:51 pm

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In post 359, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 356, Rathe wrote:
In post 350, JacksonVirgo wrote:You can't be this stupid, seriously
y would a doctor ever claim
I HAVE FUCKING EXPLAINED THIS HOLY FUCKING SHIT
u said y andante might claim but y would a doctor claim
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:52 pm

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how does it benefit the town
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:52 pm

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In post 366, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait did they cc someone. I thought they just claimed out of frustration.
They're blackmailing a Pr to CC that can rule Doc out. Use your head.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:54 pm

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In post 365, RationalMadman wrote:You sag she wouldn't risk it but she absolutely would. Think about the game from her perspective. She ix experiencing extreme pressure and is volatile, panicking.
Don't call me a fucking sag. Assuming this is not a cc. What makes you think it's panic rather than fucking frustration. I have done this before as Town out of frustration on my home site.

pedit: Ccing benefits Town because we wouldn't be wasting a fucking elim on a Town PR without a proper follow-up vote. If they flip Town here we risk getting the second PR dead and we essentially lose based on fucking numbers.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:55 pm

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In post 369, RationalMadman wrote:
In post 366, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait did they cc someone. I thought they just claimed out of frustration.
They're blackmailing a Pr to CC that can rule Doc out. Use your head.
I know what you fucking think they're doing. I am not fucking dense. But you have no fucking idea whether they are or not, you're just thinking they are being you SR them, not following up with a cc is conf-bias and can destroy the fuck out of the Town.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:56 pm

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Sag is a typo of say? What is a sag?
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:57 pm

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In post 367, Rathe wrote:u said y andante might claim but y would a doctor claim
Oh my god. Are you serious right now
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:57 pm

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In post 372, RationalMadman wrote:Sag is a typo of say? What is a sag?
I don't know, I thought you were insulting me
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