Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[Dunnstral]

2 days left Retti; you're asking for claims too, right?

[Bear HUGS]

This is Pooky.

I don't see anything in Dunn's ISO that would make me townread him.

I tend to SR Dunn even when he's town so I'm probably not the best at reading him.

The below exchange is why I SR JJH:











You can follow along with the rest of the convo.

It feels unnatural to me the way jjh jumped to Bell's defense pre-emptively like that.

Do scum try to protect their scumbuddies like this? I dunno but it feels handwavey.

I can see this as JJH protecting his buddy Bell

[Bear HUGS]

Pooky again,

found this post:



maybe jjh is actually town - this was after the momentum on bell kind of died down and raya was a big counterwagon to bell.


I also do not like Samantha's progression on Bell:

During RVS:



Her Response to me:



I showed the meta and then she did not respond to it.

30m later we get some vote movement:



now she jumps on:


but she leaves quickly after rep out:




quick to jump on Raya counter-wagon...





Rest of Sam's ISO looks fine.

I am unsure on both rn.

[Bear HUGS]

I want to know why Esooa townreads Samantha and how solid this TR is, I think Esooa is pretty locktown on re-read.

[Flea The Magician]

Catch up coming today. <3

[T3]

I still think Titus is thebest lim for today by reasons outlined by the bugs and VFP as to why Dunn is town.

[Flea The Magician]

OK maybe not. I skimmed ngl.

I'm still against the Titus yeet currently, still happy with dunn

[Flea The Magician]

also good with a peng yeet, I'm apparently a consensus TL and have almost no posts, peng is literally just like... there....

[Dunnstral]

We should be eliminating Andante, Titus, JJH, in roughly that order of preference

VOTE: Andante

[samantha97]

We should be eliminating Andante, Titus, JJH, in roughly that order of preference

VOTE: Andante

ok VOTE: andante

why titus over jjh

[Andante]

lmao there's no need to lim me...

[Raya36]

I'd be happy going back to sam. I'm not fully convinced jj is scum and I'm definitely not interested in Andante.

VOTE: sam

[Esooa]

I don't really feel like jjh is scum largely for that titus is just town post tbh

I'm sheeping willow on titus for right now so I'm fine with that slot dying

samantha97 is town imo

tbh I don't even know which of these reads matter I don't know the vote count

oh but I still think t3 is obvious town

[Esooa]

retti is probably town because they could have just gladiatored me? I'm not sold on it though because bell probably always flips next and then retti looks a lot worse

VOTE: titus

[Raya36]

Why do you townread sam?

[Esooa]

I want to know why Esooa townreads Samantha and how solid this TR is, I think Esooa is pretty locktown on re-read.

I don't have any immediate posts I can remember from them, but an early bell post spews them town imo

a large part of my criticism of bell was based on how he handled people in a way that seemed like he knew they were town, and one of these people was Sam

he called a weird post from Sam towny for no real reason and imo that's almost always him talking about a townie

past that, I've wolfed with Sam and I just don't get the same feels at all

she's actually so different it's possible that the difference is due to us being on mafia scum, when we originally played on MU? I'm not sure

but shrug, it's mostly I don't agree with the problems people have with her that much + think she has good tone and favorable spew

[Esooa]

my question is am I blind or was there no actual bolded part in the quote

Sam seems fine so far.

Sam -> Likes to set up solve. -> Tried to talk about flavor almost immediately.
-> Complained about the pace
-> When content shows up, she's there to talk about it.

I don't know Sam that well, but what's there seems fine.

these are the posts

[Raya36]

Are we positive bell doesn't do that to a partner though? I looked into that earlier but I keep going back and forth on sam is scum by play or sam is town because of bell posts

[Esooa]

Are we positive bell doesn't do that to a partner though? I looked into that earlier but I keep going back and forth on sam is scum by play or sam is town because of bell posts

positive enough I don't want to vote Sam today, at the very least

[Esooa]

Bell suffers from the RedWIM/Noraa tell.

If they ain't here and active, they prolly scumz.

I think rayas been pretty decent

[Esooa]

can someone link me bears t3 read? or explain

maybe I'm just misreading them cause others seem towny to me

but I may also just be recency biased cause I had him almost lock town day 1

[Esooa]

what are peoples reads on flea?

[T3]

what are peoples reads on flea?

Lean town.

[Raya36]

Are we positive bell doesn't do that to a partner though? I looked into that earlier but I keep going back and forth on sam is scum by play or sam is town because of bell posts

positive enough I don't want to vote Sam today, at the very least

Yeah I guess you're probably right with this much at least
UNVOTE:

[Raya36]

This is

Noraa

talking and the first post that I've signed so listen up because this post is important. This may be a long post but I recommend everyone to, at the very least, skim it.

T3, if you do not read this post in full and have a good long wall post in reply, you are scum claiming.

Keep that in mind and don't throw the game

if you are town

because I am giving you a chance to change my mind. If you don't take it, it is solely on you if you are mislaunched.

Moving on,
lets start the analysing

Spoiler:

We're gonna ignore the rvs posts. Let's start here.

Darn not rvs anymore.

Initial tr on samantha.

The word 'initial' just sounds suuuuper bad here because it kinda says they're not dedicated to the read. In which case, why even say it? It also just rubs me the wrong way because T3 starts calling sam scum when sam goes under pressure which is just kinda like ... coincidence? I think not..

Fair point

, but time zones and weekend.

Defends my hydra against willow's shitty arguments about me being scum before I even posted. Im confbiasing a bit here so ignore this part if you want. But it does feel like self conscious scum towards their buddy.

. I don't like the random assumptions at this point made by bugs. Enchant is

starting off

as town for me. Comes into the game, starts reading, answering questions. VFP is hard town for reasons I don't want to share right now. Wheme doesn't appear to be making an effort but that fits with his meta from town or scum so not sure. I

initially

tred samantha for coming into the game and doing stuff but I'm not so sure. Romance's tone almost feels faked, in a sense. Titus is town. Mostly a gut toneread on this one and would be open to bugs attempting to convonce us. Raya is town for a similar reason to Titus. willow is twn for the idgaf post Bamboozle is guttowny for basically just riding with it at the start.

I think

I'm leavin my RVS vote as is.

Ok so he says here. Bear hydra scum. Enchant town. VFP hard town! Wheme null.

Backtrack on sam TR as sam picks up traction

. Romance scum. Titus town. Raya town. Willow town. Bam town.
Let's also note this is probably the one post with the most content from this slot and there is like zero reasoning for anything.

WhemeStar

actually might be

a good vote.

Oop null read gone as wheme wagon picks up traction.

VOTE: samantha
meh

oh no no.

Sam is picking up traction again. Lets move back!!

can't tell if enchant is drunk or it's still rvs

Enchant TR down the drain as Enchant wagon gains traction.

The Dunn votes are terrible

I'm not going to read too much into pit.

Shades all of Dunn's wagon because most people are TRing Dunn.

I don't know about VFP here. I

could see

Enchant as scum, same with samantha but not them both together. I would want to go for samantha.

VFP null.

Enchant scum(TR totally washed away for ... no reason?)

. Sam scum.

Esooa

seems right

about. The bugs hydra still pings me as scum.

Esooa, a widely TRed player ofc is a TR. oop we need to bring back the bear SR.

Jesus bamboozle is such obv scum why haven’t we voted here earlier

VOTE: bamboozle

Looks like scum trying to act townie to me

VOTE: WhemeStar

Thank you fo pointing out the obvious and trying to get toenpoints.

Oop now we're voting wheme because its an easy wagon choo choo.

Something about samantha Enchant interactions

just seem off, in a sense.

Let's wait for the Bell replacement before voting.

Dunn is pinging me as scum

with post 668.

We back to this. Tbh it feels like he's like copying my read on sam and raya at this point.
We shouldn't be voting bell because ..... ??????????????

Dunn is scum now woo so the TR just disappeared down the drain somehow.

(Earlier he shaded all of Dunn's wagon)

VOTE: dunn

No objections to this as of now

.

Ooouuu what happened here?

TR gone as Dunn gains traction.

Alrigt

I would not be surprised

ifcWheme/dunn are s//s

Wheme is always an option ya know, heh.

VOTE: samantha
:/

oh nvm, sam is good too.

I would rather wait for te bell replacement.

ofc you would lol.

VOTE: titus
The whole towncase thing and voting patterns make me feel like this is scum.

ooo

Titus(previous TR) is an option now

too?

Conclusion:

Spoiler:

This is such a bullshit ISO. I can't even. Nearly every vote is sheeped. Zero explanations. Solely trying to float under the radar and follow along with majority votes. He's poking and prodding everywhere looking for a weak spot to push in town and his votes all come with zero explanation. I've bolded some key words in his ISO that will make it easier to read.

Read this spoiler last.

Spoiler:

The

bolded words

are showing uncertainty, shifts in reads, and most importantly, A LOT of replying to/agreeing with other people. Backtracking on TRs due to their wagon gaining traction is shown in

purple

. Notice how T3 switches wagons super often. But

his switches never show individual thought process

. They only show a "aha I found a wagon that I can push" scum mentality. Townies are individual beings who think on their own because they don't have an answer sheet to rely on. Scum however, come into the game with half an answer sheet. Why read this last? Because now that you've read this, I need you to go through and read it again keeping these colors in mind and try to see if you can see what I am seeing. It will go faster because this is your second time reading.

I am not trying to distract from the bell wagon but I need to bring to people's attention how scummy T3 is being. This is also a warning to T3 saying in

big bold red font

, if you are town, you better start acting like it because currently you have done nothing for this game and deserve to get yeeted off the face of the earth.

Pooky is confident in bell scum so I prefer Bell, naturally. However, if Bell wagon starts deteriorating, T3 will town up or get tunneled.

I want everyone that is town to read this post and give me opinions on T3. Do not start a wagon on T3 because a reply from him is very important. If he is under pressure, it is likely that the reply will naturally look more scummy. I don't wish to tunnel town and I wish to give him a chance. Normally, at a time like this, I go full on tunnel mode but after lots of trial and error, I believe this method is better in more ways than one. We still have time and the bell slot just got replaced. Don't start a wagon on T3 and lets work this out together and win this game together. (directed at town ofc)