Micro 1008: Burdened by Secrecy 2 (Paragon + Town Win)

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Why do Five and Alli matter when again, i could kill either

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Idk abt the Oka energy stuff cause like Oka definitely matched my amount of energy i thought

Bugspray may or may not be burnt out at scum that's just random conjecture my mind generated im starting to believe. Can't really get clarity on that tho when they aren't here.

It is worth noting that bugs revealing their identity caused Klaus to SR there, I SR there for fictional reasons, the momentum was certainly heading there to be honest but the game we played unfortunately shot it in another direction which was highly unlucky or perhaps intentional

IDK i just really dont think Klaus would bus bugs after that like it seems like too much and unlikely for him to do as well

But Klaus didn’t bus bugs, did he? He hammered Five.

Klaus bussed Alli yes

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Okay so based on this, why didn’t you push Allison?

It souds like you’re avoiding responsibility for voting Five instead.

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[Vanya Hargreeves]

Nancy i agree with you in fact thats what i felt start of phase

You agree with what Nancy said exactly

[Vanya Hargreeves]

No, as scum i dont think i wouldve wanted to pick because it'd generate info regardless of who my partner is. It's like 2/3 odds that my partner isn't chosen i think so I would take that rather than potentially help town out

If I'm getting it

I’m heavily leaning on Klaus!scum now but he picked Lila. Why does Klaus pick Lila if Oka’s a GB buddy?

Well he wouldnt pick Alli/Five of course

And I just got done giving it to him (or at least he thought)

And Oka is his partner.........?

I think it's pretty obvious why

[Vanya Hargreeves]

does klaus/allison seriously make sense to you? does allison/vanya seriously make sense to you?

If Klaus is buddies with Allison, I don’t think he lets either youb or Vanya decide the elim. Scum!Klaus would only likely do that if his buddy isn’t in any immediately conceivable jeopardy.

You realize Klaus had to pick one of us two

Only vanya, Klaus, and I were valid players for the elim picker game because the elim had to happen immediately.

We also only chose within Five/Alli to kill because we needed all three of us to vote

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Lila wasnt sure what he needed to read me as start of this day so thats why he made it so ambiguous

He hasnt been thinking it was me all along, no way. It's just because we all agreed Klaus/Alli is very unlikely

[Nancy Drew 39]

I just don’t think Klaus is scum with anyone, so unless Allison is actually scum. none of this is making sense,

Allison is very unlikely to be with Klaus yea

I'm unsure why you dont think Lila/me could be with Klaus exactly

Why not? The way bugs lockscumed Oka, reads blatantly anti-associative to me, so bugs/Lila not a team. And it kind’ve bothered me.

See, with Klaus being totally afk, bugs if scum and keep Klaus as a maybe, push Klaus and not antagonize Vanya. I don’t like it how they lockscumed Oka. It makes me think possible reverse tmi.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Er, I choose Lila?

r u choosing to lim me or for me to pick who to vote

this could be scum!klaus trying to defer to partner
tbh

im not entirely sure of klaus but pitss scum is definite

This post really bothers me. Anyone else see why?

[Vanya Hargreeves]

I think Alli's recent posting was towny

It doesn't matter what associations you're getting from it

Klaus is scum who peaced out as to not mess anything up

And Lila is the actual active partner, not me

All you guys need to do is see that it's Lila and not me

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Lila and Klaus are also both simultaneously throwing each other under the bus rn which is funny but also expected

[Vanya Hargreeves]

I recommend u talk to Hectic another time about why we thought Alli/Klaus is unlikely. I agree with him

[Nancy Drew 39]

Cause bugs isnt actually burnt out as scum i made that up, bugs would probably maybe slightly like scum more

Either way it comes across like bugs thought they had lost 15 pages ago and stopped caring versus didn't care to play scum

vanya town
its lila klaus

Okay, bugs does take a stand on Klaus. So maybe it is Lila/Klaus then?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I unvoted because I’m doubting bugs is scum now. I could see a Lila/Klaus team, which is why he picked Lila to decide. No freaking way does scum!Klaus pick a townie to make that decision.

So it could actually be Lila/Klaus.

So either Klaus is town or he’s scum with Lila.

Because it makes absolutely no sense for Klaus to be scum here with anyone else.

if town!klaus then the team has to be lila vanya but i think vanya spewed town enough to be town and five is flipped and i have my role pm

I think Klaus/Lila. Vanya is really townie as is Allison.

[Lila Pitts]

Nancy i agree with you in fact thats what i felt start of phase

You agree with what Nancy said exactly

that it doesnt make much sense for scum klaus to not pick the kill if he was buddies w allison

[Lila Pitts]

isnt the most popular solve me + klaus and hasn't it been like that for a while

why would a klaus partnered with me not want to mess that up wtf?

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Pretty sure Alli was interchangeable in the solve until recently

[Lila Pitts]

ok in that case do u really think scum dont want to mess up a 50/50 ?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy i agree with you in fact thats what i felt start of phase

You agree with what Nancy said exactly

that it doesnt make much sense for scum klaus to not pick the kill if he was buddies w allison

I like this post, so Klaus initially hard tr both you and Vanya and post-flip, he immediately pushes Lila/Allison as the scumteam.

That points to Klaus/Vanya if Klaus is scum because scum wins if paragons only get one right, so Klaus actually makes more sense with Vanya than Lila.

[Lila Pitts]

pretty much everyone scumreads me and allison and klaus are both my plausible scum partners and neither of them r rocking the boat at all really

i think that should clear me from being partners w either because that means a hypothetical me + them scumteam needs to be okay with a 50/50

and then me + vanya should be self evidently improbable

[Lila Pitts]

ill repeat myself again

klaus/vanya makes the most sense @nancy imo but if ur confident in vanya town then its klaus/allison by poe

[Nancy Drew 39]

If I’m scum here, unless my buddy is already pretty much confiscum, I don’t push my buddy here as half of the scumteam. Because let’s say I’m hypothetically scum with Klaus, last thing I want is for paragons to have my buddy as half their solve, so Klaus might have spewed Vanya as his buddy.

It’s of course also possibly wifom to make us think it can’t possibly be Klaus/Lila but it just seems really strange to me that scum!Klaus throws either Allison or Lila under the bus like that.

[Lila Pitts]

i know this hurts me but i dont think i agree with that nancy because they want u to follow the entire solve and if you follow the entire solve you would theoretically lose even if u get half of it right

[Nancy Drew 39]

ill repeat myself again

klaus/vanya makes the most sense @nancy imo but if ur confident in vanya town then its klaus/allison by poe

Klaus threw both you and Allison under the bus post-flip.

[Lila Pitts]

i think klaus just picked the two bottom slots to scumread because he just doesn't want to rock the vote because he doesn't really care what happens or how it happens as long as im the guess