Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over

[Lukewarm]

I am also getting a town read from unwnd, but maybe I am blinded by the beautiful romance unfolding before my eyes

[Anastasia]

It's possibly just because he is so charismatic.

[Lukewarm]

It's possibly just because he is so charismatic.

Maybe

Spoiler:

Am I also falling for Unwnd

[Briar]

Unwnd Fanclub Commence.

@Luke: Thanks for the answer -- I pressed on it again because I didn't want it to get lost in the fray, and also because I get the feeling of things getting eaten up and I'd rather people have a chance to be heard than not, ya know?

[absinthe]

Okay, thoughts readswise:

I like unwnd's early energy

I townread Infinity's 52 - something about that mindset fees like it's coming from town

I think Lukewarm's posts have been solidly town and he'd be my first pick for someone to send to the wall right now

No particular scum pings yet

Not sure how to feel about this, because last game you scum read every post I made all the way up to MeLo.

Wait let me double check my notes here

Spoiler:

VOTE: catboi

No this is not a RVS vote.
Yes, I do already hard scum read him.
Yes, I will tunnel on this all game

Yeah, I do already know how to respond to this.

I mean, I think given prior exxperience I'm less likely to make the same mistakes. But I think your whole process of self-examination and trying to figure which location would be the most helpful for town to be at felt very pure. The way it evolved in-thread felt like it was coming from genuine thinking. I don't know how you'd play as scum given IRL experience, but most newbie scum players tend to just hang in the background and hope to not get noticed, and your play so far has been more forward than that.

really I just don't want to be in the same location as you, no hard feelings I swear~ (jkjk)

I like this post.

[Briar]

Does you townreading me get rid of any of that apprehension WRT my theorizing or no?

[absinthe]

In 24? or what post are you referring to

I missed this question earlier. Yes, my 24.

[absinthe]

Is it non-trivial currently? I mean, we do have one group still that has 3/3 spaces in it and in theory if we blitz the other two groups full with snapshot townreads we'd leave them all in the Gate, which I don't think is the worst group to have at least 1 conftown come out of.

I don't think it's a winning strategy because getting 3/3 sounds far-fetched though and I'd rather have like, 1 scummy person in each group if possible for obvious reasons. Save for the Keep.

Actually I don't know why I'm speculating about this, it's fun but not gonna happen realistically.

6 town finding each other well enough and quickly enough to agree on 3 scummy players, and not have that conversation subverted by scum seems like a stretch.

I went back through the thread to see if I could firm up any reads and didn't come away with much I didn't already have. :/

[absinthe]

I want to go to the wall since that's the only place my scumreads will matter unless I obvtown, which I probably won't cause I don't have super high motivation for mafia atm. Otherwise, I'd rather go to the wall (again, cause I probably won't obvtown)

Having a UTR decide who goes where should increase our odds of winning (of forcing someone to scumclaim by not following the plan) right?

Do you have a candidate for UTR?

[Briar]

Is it non-trivial currently? I mean, we do have one group still that has 3/3 spaces in it and in theory if we blitz the other two groups full with snapshot townreads we'd leave them all in the Gate, which I don't think is the worst group to have at least 1 conftown come out of.

I don't think it's a winning strategy because getting 3/3 sounds far-fetched though and I'd rather have like, 1 scummy person in each group if possible for obvious reasons. Save for the Keep.

Actually I don't know why I'm speculating about this, it's fun but not gonna happen realistically.

6 town finding each other well enough and quickly enough to agree on 3 scummy players, and not have that conversation subverted by scum seems like a stretch.

I went back through the thread to see if I could firm up any reads and didn't come away with much I didn't already have. :/

Yeah, it's not reasonable, but it's still fun to imagine somehow.

I'm at the state where I don't feel like, strong about any scumreads. Townreads are a bit easier.

[Briar]

I want to go to the wall since that's the only place my scumreads will matter unless I obvtown, which I probably won't cause I don't have super high motivation for mafia atm. Otherwise, I'd rather go to the wall (again, cause I probably won't obvtown)

Having a UTR decide who goes where should increase our odds of winning (of forcing someone to scumclaim by not following the plan) right?

Do you have a candidate for UTR?

(Me btw.)

[Anastasia]

Briar who do you want to put in the Keep with you as a backup?

[Lukewarm]

Briar who do you want to put in the Keep with you as a backup?

I think she said that that would be me

[Anastasia]

I don't think that was clear from her post at all.

Ideally I want to put two UTRs in the keep to guarantee a win there.

[Lukewarm]

I don't think that was clear from her post at all.

Ideally I want to put two UTRs in the keep to guarantee a win there.

My bad. I just saw that her suggestion was [Her + me + one other flexible slot]. and then went on to say I "have felt good so far" and that "that as it stands she'd be fine voting me"

Sounded to me like I was her back up, but if she has a another person in mind, I would love to hear it.

[Lukewarm]

I don't think that was clear from her post at all.

Ideally I want to put two UTRs in the keep to guarantee a win there.

Now I am curious, how are you reading me?

[absinthe]

This may be the shortest reset period in my mafia career.

and this may be my last post of the night.

[Lukewarm]

This may be the shortest reset period in my mafia career.

and this may be my last post of the night.

I am not sure what "shortest reset period" means?

[Anastasia]

I don't think that was clear from her post at all.

Ideally I want to put two UTRs in the keep to guarantee a win there.

Now I am curious, how are you reading me?

I like your content so far but I'd be more comfortable with absinthe.

[absinthe]

shortest time from tilt to regaining objectivity/equilibrium, basically.

[Briar]

Lukewarm's my backup, yes.

I have no reason right now to think he isn't town. And if he isn't town, I think that when we get down to the nitty-gritty he'd probably slip and show his hand (especially if we sorted in the Wall group first where he'd be forced to take stances).

[Anastasia]

I'd like to resolve Keep first - on a purely probability basis it is the likeliest to resolve correctly for the town and the scum flip out of Keep will be useful for solving the other two mini games.

Also it would give the opinions of two confirmed town players to go with the IC.

[Briar]

I think that I'd be able to read Infinity as well were she in that group with us as well and would feel comfortable picking between her/Luke if people were wary of me for some reason.

p-edit: Yeah, I think that for the best odds we do Keep first, but /solving/ within Wall might be good regarding Luke, seeing how people square up to what and then giving us the flip to check it out after? This is gonna be done anyways though so like, ya know.

[Briar]

Ana, did you mean it when you said you'd vote absinthe in the Keep group?

[Anastasia]

yes