Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over

[Infinity 324]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

[absinthe]

Am I misunderstanding what constitutes a swap?

Doubtful? The swap exchanges the locations of two players, such that there's exactly one scum at each location afterward. Are you having trouble following my post?

So one swap = two players moved.

You said something about all 3 of you winding up in different mini games if you're grouped together on Day 1 and I don't see how that's possible.

[Something_Smart]

No, I'm saying if we

aren't

grouped together on D1.

[Dunnstral]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

[Something_Smart]

727 was a follow-up of 722.

[unwnd]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

What the hell is this bravado man

[Dunnstral]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

What the hell is this bravado man

It's not bravado, this is a continuation of me saying what I'd do if I were scum here, and why I sort of doubt briar + ana as town

[Something_Smart]

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

[absinthe]

If I weren't very much consensus minded, I would already have voted myself into the keep.

The only thing that holds my vote back atm is Briar's preference.

Also, I'm all in on Anastasia-town. Fite Me

Much as I dislike the idea of winding up at the Wall, I'm willing to entertain reasons why that would be a good thing for town.

I'm going to link this post from broseidon because he gets me as a mafia player and he's also able to verbalize what I'm about better than I can, myself. This is what I strive for in every town game. And this is absolutely what I'm doing here.

It's also what I strive for as scum. I vastly prefer being a supporting actor to a don corleone over carrying a team myself.

[Dunnstral]

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

Did you forget about the swap mechanic?

[Lukewarm]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

Okay... But why would you, as scum do it?

Like I feel like you are trying to make the point Briar+Ana can't both be town, because if they were both town, then a scum would have put themselves there already. But I am not following your logic, because I cannot figure out what the scum team would gain from making the play of locking themselves in there already.

[Anastasia]

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

I want to get the day 1 clean win tho

[unwnd]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

What the hell is this bravado man

It's not bravado, this is a continuation of me saying what I'd do if I were scum here, and why I sort of doubt briar + ana as town

So you agree with my own assumption earlier?

[absinthe]

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

I want to get the day 1 clean win tho

I feel like the chances are low, even though I think your solve is probably close.

This isn't a player list full of slouches. It's not full of larger than life personalities for the most part, but I think everyone here is in it to win it.

[Anastasia]

Okay... But why would you, as scum do it?

Like I feel like you are trying to make the point Briar+Ana can't both be town, because if they were both town, then a scum would have put themselves there already. But I am not following your logic, because I cannot figure out what the scum team would gain from making the play of locking themselves in there already.

I think it's a good point that Dunnstral raises

however the scum team I proposed SS-Infinity are both not as bold as Dunnstral so I can see them choosing to not sacrifice themselves at the Keep in a daring ploy.

[Lukewarm]

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

Did you forget about the swap mechanic?

Dude. If you just auto-locked yourself in right now, I feel like the consensus would be that you scumclaimed, and we would just move forward with "vote anyone but Dunn" and we would just win the mini game, regardless of the swap mechanic.

Unless you think you could scum claim there, and then we would be so confused by the swap mechanic, we would just forget? lol

[Briar]

Apologies, I'll be around more tomorrow. Tonight isn't very good.

Giving IOU to questions, I had some thoughts about the nature of the Keep-group because that's where my personal focus is but I don't want to explain them when I feel like this. So, tomorrow, hopefully.

[unwnd]

Apologies, I'll be around more tomorrow. Tonight isn't very good.

Giving IOU to questions, I had some thoughts about the nature of the Keep-group because that's where my personal focus is but I don't want to explain them when I feel like this. So, tomorrow, hopefully.

Hope you're feeling better with whatever is ailing you.

[absinthe]

oh my.

I think this may be the very first appearance ever of drunk-absinthe.

[Dunnstral]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

I'd treat this as a scumclaim

Go on

It's not town-motivated at all to lock in a vote without discussing here, especially since it encourages scum to do the same.

And if I do scum claim, what are you going to do about it?

What the hell is this bravado man

It's not bravado, this is a continuation of me saying what I'd do if I were scum here, and why I sort of doubt briar + ana as town

So you agree with my own assumption earlier?

That there's scum in those 3? Logically yes, but it feels like nobody understands what I'm getting at, so actually no.

I have a feeling that Infinity is scum here

ok but like if Briar and Ana are both town don't we want scum to take the last slot?

Did you forget about the swap mechanic?

Dude. If you just auto-locked yourself in right now, I feel like the consensus would be that you scumclaimed, and we would just move forward with "vote anyone but Dunn" and we would just win the mini game, regardless of the swap mechanic.

Unless you think you could scum claim there, and then we would be so confused by the swap mechanic, we would just forget? lol

But wouldn't town already win the mini game if there's three town locking into that group?

[Something_Smart]

Did you forget about the swap mechanic?

No but if we have two consensus town in the Keep then we don't care at all about the third slot. And if someone did scumclaim into it then there'd be no point in swapping one of them out since it's a guaranteed town win anyway.

[unwnd]

I feel like the chances are low, even though I think your solve is probably close.

I can't believe I need to suggest both of you that it isn't lol

[Anastasia]

If I were scum and Briar/Ana were both town, I'd already be in the Keep

You would scumclaim and force the optimal move onto town?

I feel like this is coming from a scum!SS who has already considered the move that Dunnstral is proposing and decided it's not a good play to make.

His disbelief reads to me like he can't believe a townie would say such a silly nonsensical strategy.

Yes I'm horribly confbiased - but that's kind of why I want the ss-infy-unwnd team to snap me out of it if I'm wrong <3

[Something_Smart]

I want to get the day 1 clean win tho

It's literally not possible lol

Scum will not go along with it

[unwnd]

I would even go so far to say I like S_S's input

I'm not paying attention too hard to Infinity on the flipside