Micro 1009: Would You Like To Be My Neighbor? [Game Over!]

[Andante]

Player List:
Andante - Town
GeorgeBailey
Robert M Hunter
Vanderscamp
flow trap - Town
bugspray
GrandpaMo - Town
Hopkirk - Town
Loki Dokie - Town


is this game really this easy? like... I have 4 TRs/TLs right now

[bugspray]

VOTE: vandante i think this is the most interesting wagon to push for a bit rn

[bugspray]

andan te can you expand on your tls

[bugspray]

VOTE: vanderscamp thats what i mean

[Andante]

so, flow and loki are my strongest TRs at the moment, Grandpa.. chilling in the TL category right now, I know I'll hear more from grandpa, I'm not worried. and Hop? Hop is hop. they'd had good lines so TL

[Loki Dokie]

Player List:
Andante - Town
GeorgeBailey
Robert M Hunter
Vanderscamp
flow trap - Town
bugspray
GrandpaMo - Town
Hopkirk - Town
Loki Dokie - Town


is this game really this easy? like... I have 4 TRs/TLs right now

I like this list. I would really like to hear more from Robert and hopefully have GB grace us with his presence ar some point.

[Andante]

the scare GB to talk tactic didn't work lol he has shown no fear....

[Loki Dokie]

the scare GB to talk tactic didn't work lol he has shown no fear....

His last post was on May 4th.

[Andante]

the scare GB to talk tactic didn't work lol he has shown no fear....

His last post was on May 4th.

but he confirmed his role PM, sooo lol it's ok, I'm sure he'll be around

[Loki Dokie]

the scare GB to talk tactic didn't work lol he has shown no fear....

His last post was on May 4th.

but he confirmed his role PM, sooo lol it's ok, I'm sure he'll be around

Yeah that’s right, so hopefully we hear from him soon.

[Vanderscamp]

@loki and andante:

I think being defensive vs pressure is not necessarily scummy.

What I think is scummy is Andante thinking that a false statement about him claiming mafia is pressure at all.
There is also some difference between being defensive and being retaliatory. I have no idea why andante thinks I'm scum, or if there is any reason other than retaliation.

[Andante]

@loki and andante:

I think being defensive vs pressure is not necessarily scummy.

What I think is scummy is Andante thinking that a false statement about him claiming mafia is pressure at all.
There is also some difference between being defensive and being retaliatory. I have no idea why andante thinks I'm scum, or if there is any reason other than retaliation.

Scum is in:
GeorgeBailey
Robert M Hunter
Vanderscamp
bugspray

I'm not certain if you specifically are scum or what, but I think you're really trying to make something out of nothing...

[Vanderscamp]

I mean, if you want me here 24/7 I can do that... but post count will be insane, I leave so yall have a chance to talk.... so when I return, and am catching up, I see someone going "andante claimed scum in the hood" and I have no clue what follows. So I go. "no. that wasn't me, I'm not even in that hood" cause how else should I respond?

You can respond by going along with it and at least not outing that you are not in that neighbourhood.

If I said I used a ouija board to determine that you were scum, I would not expect townAndante and scumAndante to both react strongly to that, and I generally think that players (regardless of their defensiveness) are more likely to be defensive towards non-cases as scum than town.

[Vanderscamp]

not sure. you trying to tunnel me has thrown my read off

Can you explain what you think I have said with my case on you that is scummy for me to have said?

You're convinced I'm maf, and I feel like I'm being wrongly accused, like you don't even have a good reason for it!!! plus I know I'm town

I'm not convinced, just nothing you have said (particularly this post) has caused me to doubt what I'm saying.

[Vanderscamp]

@loki and andante:

I think being defensive vs pressure is not necessarily scummy.

What I think is scummy is Andante thinking that a false statement about him claiming mafia is pressure at all.
There is also some difference between being defensive and being retaliatory. I have no idea why andante thinks I'm scum, or if there is any reason other than retaliation.

Scum is in:
GeorgeBailey
Robert M Hunter
Vanderscamp
bugspray

I'm not certain if you specifically are scum or what, but I think you're really trying to make something out of nothing...

Was it nothing, or was it you crumbling under pressure?

Because you seem to be simultaneously arguing that it's in your town range to react poorly to pressure, but also that it is not reasonable for me (who has never played with you) to scum read you for reacting poorly to pressure.
I really don't understand your perspective of this.

[Vanderscamp]

I'll outline this again because I feel like this is a pretty good example of my problem with andante's defence.

I call out his response to grandpa as being poor and too reactive to grandpa saying he claimed mafia.

Andante agrees with this and links examples of games where he has also reacted poorly to pressure.


I don't understand how, given this, he is retaliating me and calling me scum for his push on him, if he agrees that I am reacting to a poor defence from him. Even if I happen to be wrong, it's not me making something out of nothing, that would only be the case if andante had not agreed that his original response was poor.

[Vanderscamp]

And for the record, andante is the only person I have a scum read on atm.

I think what I didn't like about Loki is due to his playstyle and is likely NAI, and the grandpa thing I misinterpreted.

[Andante]

well there's 2 scum, so I invite you to find my partner then

[Robert M Hunter]

VOTE: Hopkirk who dat

I opened this thread planning to read TWO entire pages in one sitting (side note- wow. let's watch that pace everyone, it's been like half an hour, not four days lol)
Then I saw this post.
I'm going to be honest, it was hurtful. I was hurt. Emotionally. Let's break it down a bit.

- You're saying you don't know who I am. Presumably legit (or feigning ignorance to pretend you haven't been stalking me for years), but still hurtful
- You don't follow up with looking into who I am. Saying you don't know me hurt a bit, but implying you don't care enough to look is incredibly mean and hurtful
- Did I say it was hurtful already? Because it was
- Choosing to use 'who dat' instead of 'who's that' is a pretty casual tone. That makes the hurtful comment feel so much worse since it feels casually dismissive
- At least you're voting me so there's some indication you want to get to know me. Unfortunately that's awful hurtful so wow, this whole post was

messed up

I'm Hopkirk. You'd better remember that name, because if you don't I'll be really sad and you'll feel really guilty about being such a meanie

UNVOTE:

[Robert M Hunter]

VOTE: Loki Dokie I'm on p.7, this player is scum.

[DkKoba]

Vote Count 1.3

Vanderscamp

(3): Loki Dokie, Andante, bugspray

Andante

(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp

Robert M Hunter

(1): flow trap

GeorgeBailey

(1): Hopkirk

Loki Dokie

(1): Robert M Hunter

Not Voting

(1): GeorgeBailey

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate

Day 1

ends in (expired on 2021-05-23 17:50:00)

[Andante]

VOTE: Loki Dokie I'm on p.7, this player is scum.

What exactly makes you think that? I'm actually thinking Loki town

[Andante]

Also, I changed my avatar, soooo sorry for any confusion

[Robert M Hunter]

Ugh I'm not sure I can explain why I think Loki Dokie is scum very well, but I'll try. I feel like his pushes are artificial. They're superficial, aggressive, but unfocused. A buckshot approach.

Vanderscamp is scum for the same reason.

[GeorgeBailey]

I can't believe I was being bullied