DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[DeathNote]

T3 is Russian scum again? Starting to suspect he gets called out for being scum in most of his games.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

vote: Robert M Hunter

[Mognet]

Personally I would still want to scumhunt off the wagon from y/day tbh but also FUCK THAT GIVE ME NUKES

Why are you so excited for nukes?

I have already demonstrated there are 9+ PRs out there.

We have already demonstrated most PRs are town oriented.

Therefore scum would want Nukes over play.

Why are you suggesting what scum would want?

Why can you not understand that people signed up to play a game in a series built around the batshittery of nuking people?

Why are you the fucking fun police?

Because a good chunk of Americans (possibly the majority) are not nuke happy. You’re actively pushing a scum agenda.

The fastest way to get to the nukes you want is find scum and elim them.

[Mognet]

Mognet is not a great vote imo. It seems more to do with having a negative charisma stat than because he's doing anything particularly scummy.

I have so much to say to this that would be just toxic but yes sometimes I struggle with word choice.

There are things I am holding back to not be a rage turd atm but quite frankly there’s some crappy shit that needs to stop.

To blame it on me you won’t look at naked voters is quite literally not a I have a low charisma score problem.

[Mognet]

vote: Robert M Hunter

Yay more naked votes!

Tell me am I supposed to summon an eidolon to figure out how you got to that conclusion?

This is also technically a chainsaw too as no recent mention of Robert if Robert has a vote down anywhere.

Can we please use like reasoning and communication?

[Cephrir]

I tried reasoning with you but then you said things like calling that obviously non-chainsaw vote a chainsaw and I understandably gave up

I dont appear to be alone in this

[Cephrir]

Is this your first time encountering naked votes? You sure are acting like it

[The Church of Skitter]

vote: Robert M Hunter

Yay more naked votes!

Tell me am I supposed to summon an eidolon to figure out how you got to that conclusion?

This is also technically a chainsaw too as no recent mention of Robert if Robert has a vote down anywhere.

Can we please use like reasoning and communication?

Holy shit you're so annoying and it's not even me you're talking to shut up

[Mognet]

It’s only here that puts up with this shit.

You just pick off not friends.

Naked votes would be policied.

[Mognet]

T3 is Russian scum again? Starting to suspect he gets called out for being scum in most of his games.

Starting to wonder if the same people get wagoned every game on site here.

Seems a pattern.

I am going to bed but this should be a serious thought people.

If you always wagon/attack/dump on the same people it’s a bad standard.

[VFP]

Use it?

Townslip for not knowing what the eavesdropper is??

No it was bad phrasing. I meant use it as a claim.

VFP almost felt over fixated on mastina fpossibly flipping scum which pings me as slightly busy, and based on play alone lean scum

Why wouldn't I be?
Mastina said that I was scum for playing differently.
I have 1 game with mastina where day 1 I hadn't posted much in that game either. This read from mastina was just a fake attempt considering my play is no different to Electorial Mafia day 1 in the sense of content or activity (at least enough to not warrant a scum read based on it).

but I've some reason to suspect the slot from the replacement anyway in that this VFP is not the town VFP that I've seen before.

Fake meta is always a scum tell.

[The Entity]

Personally I would still want to scumhunt off the wagon from y/day tbh but also FUCK THAT GIVE ME NUKES

Why are you so excited for nukes?

I have already demonstrated there are 9+ PRs out there.

We have already demonstrated most PRs are town oriented.

Therefore scum would want Nukes over play.

Why are you suggesting what scum would want?

Why can you not understand that people signed up to play a game in a series built around the batshittery of nuking people?

Why are you the fucking fun police?

Because a good chunk of Americans (possibly the majority) are not nuke happy. You’re actively pushing a scum agenda.

The fastest way to get to the nukes you want is find scum and elim them.

Bro holy fucking shit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Honestly I tried to hunt something I thought might be scummier but I can't deal with this shit in this game anymore.

I'm getting a seance from beyond the grave that pooky wants us to kill moogle fucker

vote:Mognet

[Lady Lambdadelta]

T3 is Russian scum again? Starting to suspect he gets called out for being scum in most of his games.

Starting to wonder if the same people get wagoned every game on site here.

Seems a pattern.

I am going to bed but this should be a serious thought people.

If you always wagon/attack/dump on the same people it’s a bad standard.

Bro only you would watch me lead an elimination on scum and argue this.

Seriously just die.

[The Entity]

Honestly I tried to hunt something I thought might be scummier but I can't deal with this shit in this game anymore.

I'm getting a seance from beyond the grave that pooky wants us to kill moogle fucker

vote:Mognet

Lexi there is no way this shit is scum, I'm sorry. If you just wanna YOLOyeet someone to get to nukes then fine but I do not believe Mognet is scum here.

Full disclosure I'm fairly sure Equinox would support a yeet on Mognet so you can appeal to him I guess.

I'm tempted to join the Mognet yeet for the sake of gamestate but I don't think it'll flip scum and I'll be honest the idea of only yeeting scum is v appealing to me after the righteous mastina thing yesterday

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It’s only here that puts up with this shit.

You just pick off not friends.

Naked votes would be policied.

So two things

First off I am the current record holder for highest point total ever scored in the MafiaUniverse Championship. So no it's not just here and infact there are many kinds of playstyless that exist.

Secondly, if you do not like it on the website why are you making it our fucking problem. If you aren't having fun you do not have to play.

But I'm not gonna put up with your Dunning-Kruger ass anymore. You say a lot of words that mean nothing, ypur arguments are trash, you can't convince anyone of anything and yet you lord this superiority over all of us.

Die. Leave. I don't care. I just want you gone.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Honestly I tried to hunt something I thought might be scummier but I can't deal with this shit in this game anymore.

I'm getting a seance from beyond the grave that pooky wants us to kill moogle fucker

vote:Mognet

Lexi there is no way this shit is scum, I'm sorry. If you just wanna YOLOyeet someone to get to nukes then fine but I do not believe Mognet is scum here.

Full disclosure I'm fairly sure Equinox would support a yeet on Mognet so you can appeal to him I guess.

I'm tempted to join the Mognet yeet for the sake of gamestate but I don't think it'll flip scum and I'll be honest the idea of only yeeting scum is v appealing to me after the righteous mastina thing yesterday

Well it isnt like it has 0 scum equity but no this is a pure policy vote.

I gave you my scum read for today. It's robert hunter. If we are going for scum I wouls go there but I just don't want Mognet alive anymore, let alone alive to have access to nukes.

Fuck that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I have lost my patience in dealing with this slot. I spent all of yesterday being told by them how I think and act despite evidence to the contrary from other games.

I put up with their nonsense for the mastina flip and expected them to fucking learn a little humility with the scum flip but no

I can't buy one fucking iota of respect from that fucking slot so I'm done with it

[The Entity]

I genuinely wish I was still a mod so I could figure out who the fuck Mognet is and be done with it. But whatever.

@Mognet.

You are not helping the town, despite how much you think you are.
Maybe you're scum. On the off-chane you're town, please.
I get where you are. You think you are being the most rational and that your logic is unassailable and therefore you should keep fighting the good fight against all us plebs who aren't willing to accept your gospel.

Here's the thing.
DEFCON has a long history on this site. Your assertion that the majority of people don't want to lolnuke is actually probably very far from the truth. The entire appeal of this brand of games is that you get to lolnuke people. It doesn't matter scum or town. Go read some of these previous games. Not for meta, but for reading the Elmo-Dancing-On-A-Toilet shitshows they become. That's the fun. That's the draw.

Here's the thing.
You're sitting here crying about people picking off "not friends". I don't even know how to begin to break down this site's dynamics, but you're flat out wrong.
LLD got into a death tunnel on me the last DEFCON despite us being "friends".
You're also ENTIRELY basing your overreaction on ONE post from DeathNote against T3? Like what the fuck?

Here's the thing.
In a game like this, people will empty vote and not really give a fuck.
If people were empty voting you without reason, yeah, I'd expect it. But it seems like you're just picking a bone with the empty votes to win some intellectual superiority race that only YOU are running.
Do... do you think the people throwing down empty votes are all unaware that... they're throwing down empty votes?
Or do you think every person that has done it is scum?
Because... at some point, you have to accept that unless literally every person who has transgressed you is scum, that you're throwing some undue shit at townies somewhere, here.

Here's the thing.
You pulled this same kind of wah wah grandstanding bullshit yesterday when we were on the one-way train to scumtown with the mastina wagon.
You completely ignored my well-reasoned case for why mastina was actually scum yesterday and decided to grandstand about autism instead of focusing on the game.
Nobody owes you anything. There are a few of us that will continue to try to win this game regardless of your roadblocks. I happen to believe you're town, but given the gamestate, I would wager there's a surging tide of townspeople who do NOT think your actions are coming from a town mindset.

I'm begging you -- as the king of egomania in many ways, please fucking step back and try to participate rather than be an antagonistic presence in the game.

[Toogeloo]

Gotta learn to not make waves.

In regards to today's most talked about slots...

Mognet is town. No scum is that antagonistic in the face of a long standing E-1 train. No 3p puts that much focus on themselves that early.

I like marry for town as well, or at least not group scum. That's again mostly in part to Day 1 antics.

I'm good with T3 as an elim today. I wasn't a fan of their entry posts start of DEFCON 3.

Something Dragon said also felt off to me today.

I wanna see LLD on board this stern Robert push though, so here's hoping policies don't get pushed too hard.

[Bell]

You're right mognet, I'm sorry for the charisma comment. It was hurtful and an ad hom.
I'm not gunna comment on the rest of that because it's 12:00 AM, I have to go to work and I don't think I could really engage with this conversation right now.

@LLD: What do you think about VFP?

[T3]

I do think mognet is town. UNVOTE:

[T3]

Entity and Church town.
Bell strong town.
marry and joq town.
Toogeloo town.

[SirCakez]

[MCMAW SYSTEM] Attention Taskforce members, this is Command.

Soldier Mognet has requested a new cadet to take over their duties.

Carry on soldiers.

[T3]

.-.
Vax strong town.
gorilla lean town
lld lean town.