Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over

[Anastasia]

but you can't run from who you are.

[Infinity 324]

Official Vote Count 1.05

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Preparation

Gate

(1): catboi

Wall

(2): unwnd, Lukewarm

Keep

(3): Briar, Anastasia, absinthe

Unassigned

(3): Dunnstral, Infinity 324, Something_Smart

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-05-18 18:31:49).

Mod notes:

Only votes for the Gate, Wall, or Keep will be counted.

This was the VC when dunn locked in his vote. There was 1 scum at the keep, so scum!dunn locking in his vote at the wall made some sense. However, me and s_s were never going to really quickvote anyway, so idk if it was worth it for scum!dunn.

[Infinity 324]

I'll be honest I've been sleeping like a baby thinking I've had the game solved already for the last three nights.

<3 I'm sorry

[Infinity 324]

I wonder if I can obvtown enough to make this interesting

[Briar]

Infinity, did you guess my main?

[Infinity 324]

No I really have no idea

[unwnd]

but you can't run from who you are.

Well honestly I took it as an affliction as well. I've been having a very minor identity crisis when it comes to my townplay. I want to be helpful but I don't really enjoy posting frequently. It's just become an issue where I feel I have to keep up with recent meta and I don't want to simply fall behind. I also felt like a lot of people stopped reading my walls, but constant one sentencing is just not thrilling to me. I realize some games that I end up in this situation where I'll end up a pseudo-leader and I typically hate that because I feel I work a bit better with veiled intentions. If I'm just pseudo-clear then people are either going to

A) Kiss my ass
B) Not really pay attention to me or entertain my thoughts

This game is a bit sobering because I personally feel like I haven't changed much about my townplay (and even regressed in some points) yet you apparently and others think I'm scum lol

[Briar]

Huh, okay; the scum range comment made me curious because you generally say that when I’m town, I’m really obvious town (and I agree that my scum game is... polarizing.) So I wasn’t sure where the sudden change might have come from.

[Infinity 324]

Huh, okay; the scum range comment made me curious because you generally say that when I’m town, I’m really obvious town (and I agree that my scum game is... polarizing.) So I wasn’t sure where the sudden change might have come from.

Well there's at least one reason I can think of ;)

[Lukewarm]

I agree that it's unfair to you that they are clearing themselves off mech nonsense.

I did not clear him tho?

I was lowkey tunnel thinking about him over quick-locking into the wall, and wanted to get his motivation for that. Once I got a plausible town motivation, I decided that I did not need to assume he is scum. - I was not meaning to make it look like I was basing it off of mech nonsense, because I was really looking for his motivation.

I still see potential scum motivations, but my thoughts on those motivations will almost certainly change based on the flips before we get to a wall vote anyways, so no reason to waste thread spaced debating those as of now.

I had unwnd as a town lean Day 1, so Dunn still has an uphill battle imo

[Briar]

Touché, pfft.

[unwnd]

Briar what's your take on Me/Dunn/Lukewarm? Are you still townleaning me?

[Briar]

In the interests of not having half this table informed tiptoeing around my identity/meta when I’m not actively hiding it: I’m Ydrasse.

[unwnd]

News to fucking me

[Infinity 324]

In the interests of not having half this table informed tiptoeing around my identity/meta when I’m not actively hiding it: I’m Ydrasse.

I felt like your tone was off from normal ydrasse, huh.

You also said you were playing league not TFT. You trickster.

[Infinity 324]

That makes ana much more likely to be the scum, fwiw.

[Lukewarm]

Do you have previous experience with mafia outside of this site?

Asked and answered?

Handful of games on a Discord server, was scum in exactly 1 of those.

Lots of 1 night ultimate werewolf, lots of games as werewolf, but despite being a similar concept, that is a substantially different game (in-person, with people I knew IRL, and essentially every game starts at ELo).

[unwnd]

I am habitually bad at reading your slot ydra but regardless if your identity I've agreed with a lot of your thoughts

I think the last game we played you had a reason along the lines of 'my scumgame isnt that good' and I disagree?

[Infinity 324]

Yeah ydrasse has a good scumgame but not really a confident one, so this would be a step up for her from what I've seen. (She also can get demotivated as scum). Then again, in a vacuum she's playing much more like the scum in our group.

[unwnd]

She's literally pocketed me twice

I have scars

[Anastasia]

In the interests of not having half this table informed tiptoeing around my identity/meta when I’m not actively hiding it: I’m Ydrasse.

I felt like your tone was off from normal ydrasse, huh.

You also said you were playing league not TFT. You trickster.

Well she was playing league that night

[Anastasia]

She's literally pocketed me twice

I have scars

I've never been pocketed by her, I want at least one time.

[Anastasia]

You can tell me if I'm right about this guess in the postgame.

Spoiler: Why Infinity Came Back

The original scum plan was for infinity to pretend to be a tree in order to give as little information as possible.

As the evening wore on, the scumside realized that infinity's continued silence meant that me and briar would both be psuedo-ICs and could stay in the thread for longer, leaving Keep unresolved and weighing down the game state.

Realizing that this would be bad for them, they asked infinity to come back to the game to cast doubt on the Keep again in an attempt to reduce Briar/Me's influence on the game state.

This implies that I'm on the right path and my solve is indeed correct. Unwnd is scum and he needed Infinity to come back to salvage the situation or at least resolve Keep early so that he has the room to operate.

[Anastasia]

It's a desperate move that implies the scum are really on the back foot in this game, the reason for it happening was Lukewarm/Dunn beginning to townread each other based on mech and unwnd finding his position more untenable.

[unwnd]

I just give her emotional tendencies more leeway than I should

In FL v Hectic I thought her funposting/anime talk was townie

In dance it wasn't exactly like that, but I don't think I have a potential grasp on her towngame. I want to believe this is the game though? I can't be wrong three times in a row