Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over

[Infinity 324]

Can someone who knows ana tell me if she's, like, out of her scumrange? She's a strong scum player but the way she's approaching this feels so pure

[Infinity 324]

I want this to be powerwolf!ydrasse, but it feels like a bit of a stretch.

[unwnd]

Where are you leaning between S_S/catboi Infinity?

[Briar]

I play differently on alts even if it’s a thin veil to lift for my true identity; there’s a small amount of dissonance from “myself” that allows me to play... properly? Versus socially, which is generally my focus on Ydrasse: hang out with friends.

As for my scumgame, it’s self perception. Other people say that it’s fine but I lose a lot more than I win even if some games are close, which to me is like. “I am bad at this alignment.” And it creates a dumb little spiral but I don’t want to angst on that particularly in this moment. That and it’s soul-draining to me to constantly have to make up stuff that I don’t believe in when as town I can go hog wild knowing that it’s easy to identify me as town so I’m hamstring myself from the start.

Also I was playing League that night, indeed. :>

[Briar]

When I’m home I’ll be able to give more congruent game-thoughts, so I’m not avoiding the question regarding unwnd/Luke/Dunnstral.

[Infinity 324]

Where are you leaning between S_S/catboi Infinity?

Catboi, but I have to ISO them. Both got townier as the game went along I feel

[Briar]

Ana is a very strong scum player, but not impossible to catch.

[Anastasia]

Can someone who knows ana tell me if she's, like, out of her scumrange? She's a strong scum player but the way she's approaching this feels so pure

I have an infinite scum range

you don't have to worry about me because I'm just gonna vote for Ydrasse like 100% of the time when it comes to that time.

[unwnd]

I initially agreed with you but I've 180'd on that thought yeah

[Briar]

Ana if my dream was right I still love you.

[Infinity 324]

Can someone who knows ana tell me if she's, like, out of her scumrange? She's a strong scum player but the way she's approaching this feels so pure

I have an infinite scum range

you don't have to worry about me because I'm just gonna vote for Ydrasse like 100% of the time when it comes to that time.

I think you at least owe me the ability to vote first.

[Anastasia]

I think you at least owe me the ability to vote first.

Sure infinity I'll let you vote just for the sake of completeness.

[Anastasia]

Ana if my dream was right I still love you.

Briar I love you no matter what <3

[Briar]

Speaking of votes: when is the best time for us to flip? Assuming Keep first is still the preferred move — the other groups will be harder to resolve but I don’t know when it’s best to give up our presence vs. confirmed flips.

[Briar]

<3

[unwnd]

I wouldn't mind solving Gate first but Keep is probably the first flip regardless

[Anastasia]

I think as soon as our collective minds are made up about how we want the rest of the game to play out we can resolve the keep.

I have my preliminary solve down but I want to give the players in gate/wall a chance to sort themselves before I put something down for final.

[Infinity 324]

I'll probably vote in 2-3 days

[unwnd]

Just saying please reconsider regardless of Infinity's flip my innocence

I do my taxes on time and feed the hungry on weekends. I also once saved a bunch of children from a burning orphanage

How could you not townread me

[Briar]

Unwnd that made me feel the opposite of good. ):

[Anastasia]

tbh your scum and town metas are very divergent for me, jarringly so.

[unwnd]

I see so you hate children and poor people

[Infinity 324]

I think you at least owe me the ability to vote first.

Sure infinity I'll let you vote just for the sake of completeness.

I feel like an idiot for doing this if you're scum because now you have a chance of winning when you didn't before, but sigh

[unwnd]

tbh your scum and town metas are very divergent for me, jarringly so.

Is this towards me? It's because I don't have an absolute plan for how I'm going to play the game regardless. I talked about this earlier

[Anastasia]

there's this thing about motivation.

You see if we are decided on unwnd as the flip for the wall - he will die 100% of the time first.

However this is where the divergence happens:

Unwnd must make a "solve" for the gate before he dies.


(A)
For Town!Unwnd, he knows that he will flip town, and the solve for the gate will be the one that either wins or loses the game for the town. So he will feel the weight of the responsibility to come up with the correct answer and he will pour his soul and effort into it, to come up with a solution that he is certain is correct or at least as close to it as possible.

(B)
For Scum!Unwnd, he knows he will flip scum, the Keep will resolve townside and the game is effectively over, it does not matter what solve he creates. He has no need or motivation to fool anyone.


Can Scum!Unwnd muster the same effort and determination in Scenario (B) as he would in Scenario (A)? When all his effort and thought would ultimately be fruitless and pointless?

This is something very hard to fake. To pour yourself into something that is completely futile and pointless for you to do.