Open 811 - Lovers and Losers (New Game+) [Game Over]
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Vex Vience it/its onlyGoonit/its only
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the only real reason i can see that lovers in this setup wouldn't try to discuss how to read players in this game is if they have factional communication, meaning they're scum. town is on the time limit to discuss this before the game begins--scum is not"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Something I forgot to mention is that I actually did this but the opposite, I said we should just out this time (in the replies I posted after her images and rant about missing Kerset).In post 122, Bingle wrote:If you had a lover would you have gone over whether claiming lovers was optimal with them this time around?
I said it only as a passing remark though and posted quite a bit but clearly she read it or just had the same idea as she outed instantly.
However, I agree with the idea that it was pointless to discuss that anymore, I knew every single member of this cast was heavily pro-outing and didn't want to cause an issue like last time where I ended up pitted Town vs Town even though that was only minimally due to that, the attention drawn to myself was counterproductive and ended up making me scumread a lover pair who scumread me for my logic, which included opposing outing and then outing when voted.-
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Vex Vience it/its onlyGoonit/its only
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there is also no excuse for "oh we didn't have time to read the flips and discuss it."
bullshit.
role pms went out at 23:18 edt on may 11th.
previous setup was posted at 00:09 edt on may 12th.
everyone confirmed at 11:10 edt on may 12th, and we have the 24 hour period so lovers can talk."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Why is discussing this in the lover thread instead of the main thread better?In post 123, Vex Vience wrote:i would've discussed the flips and how i approach reading this game this time"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Vex Vience it/its onlyGoonit/its only
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rm you're currently lock town to me due to last game, plus the reasoning for asking about the lover pt discussion
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you have the two days to do so, with someone you *know* is town, so you can get their opinion on if you're heading in the right direction. let me ask you this: why *wouldn't* you want to discuss that with someone you know is town while you have the time?"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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yes, you can discuss it in the main thread--and i absolutely would've--but if you're given the chance to talk in a masonry for 48 hours, you take it and use it to discuss whatever you think you can, that'd be relevant"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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I didn't ask about the lover pt discussion however I understood Town-reasoning to do this last game from Llama (even though he was scum) and this game from you because a vanilla townie asking all pairs to out their discussions shows curiosity and vanilla townies are in a position of higher curiosity by default.In post 129, Vex Vience wrote:plus the reasoning for asking about the lover pt discussion-
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:/In post 127, Vex Vience wrote:there is also no excuse for "oh we didn't have time to read the flips and discuss it."
What part of "The game was called because I knew you were town as town" flew over your head? Kerset also knew who was scum in the last iteration because he was himself scum.
Do you actually believe anything you're saying?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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jingle i'm not talking about that, and we both know it. i'm talking about discussing the flips from the last game, and using that knowledge of how people will play to your advantage for this game."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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you are way smarter than this, and the fact you're trying to pull something like this really makes me think you rolled scum."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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but i don't like talking with bingle...In post 130, Vex Vience wrote:yes, you can discuss it in the main thread--and i absolutely would've--but if you're given the chance to talk in a masonry for 48 hours, you take it and use it to discuss whatever you think you can, that'd be relevantgiv me pagetop :(-
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and would i post it under vex if i wasn't absolutely certain of what i was saying? you said it last game, this is my tryhard account.
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you know they're town though. if i rolled lovers with rm, i wouldn't have been happy about it, but i would've absolutely seized the chance to discuss reads with them."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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i don't like the fact that you also jump into this discussion and just say "oh but i don't like bingle" and not add anything else."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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i feel like i can confidently read klick when they come back, so i'm going to wait until they come before i cement my read on this. i can't dismiss the possibility that you two are just town and klick/tbone are just 4d chessing me atm"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Wait, now i know why I was confused about this vote, where on Earth is the logic that goes into voting Klick?In post 45, Bambi Jay wrote:Well clearly 3 of us are lying. So to go with a theme if I want us to get the pairs first, let's get the last guy to appear.
VOTE: Klick
My stance is likely to change in like 5 pages but we gotta start somewhere.
This may be why I confused the vote with T-bone but I am so confused right now, I honestly thought Bambi had indicate intent to vote the vanilla townie who wasn't vex earlier on. What led to vote Klick????-
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You also can't dismiss the idea that myself and Ana are scum, if we are going to state the obvious, which is something you like to do (but you did this as Town).In post 139, Vex Vience wrote:i feel like i can confidently read klick when they come back, so i'm going to wait until they come before i cement my read on this. i can't dismiss the possibility that you two are just town and klick/tbone are just 4d chessing me atm
I also noticed that despite having a go at me for testing if you knew Lovers don't talk past D1, saying it was blatant from the PM, you said in your post last game of describing your lover PT, that you yourself had asked the very same thing to the mod. I noticed this last game after the lock happened so never got to post it, it seemed like a slip to me but it turns out there was actually a townslip that required the game to be reset in the same post so maybe I'm just not that observant.-
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Vex Vience it/its onlyGoonit/its only
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link me to the game as well kerest please, since i know you're here"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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:thorface:In post 134, Vex Vience wrote:you are way smarter than this, and the fact you're trying to pull something like this really makes me think you rolled scum.
I can't tell if you're intentionally being dense, tbh."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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if you two are scum together, you honestly deserve the win atm because that would've required extensive planning."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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jingle, the feeling is mutual. do i need to explain it any more simply?"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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ok Mr. lazy tryhardIn post 143, Vex Vience wrote:link me to the game as well kerest please, since i know you're here
viewtopic.php?f=150&t=81719giv me pagetop :(-
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Vex Vience it/its onlyGoonit/its only
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tbf i looked through both yours and bingles topics and didn't see it so"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Subject: Open 811 - Lovers and Losers [Day 1]
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I didn't?In post 293, Kerset wrote:for real this time
Jingle why did you refuse to argue Vex? Is it too long or what?
I didn't read the isodive, because why would I. I did ask why Vex thought RM being all over the place was specifically scum indicative as that's what the tl;dr boils down to. He has no consistency and he's flailing about, which I agree is a true statement. The question is why does that make him scum?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky
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