Open 811 - Lovers and Losers (New Game+) [Game Over]

[LlamaFluff]

@Bambi - Can you please explain your vote on Vex?

[Bambi Jay]

i can't read you, which is why i want you dead first tbh

That sounds more like you fear him more in miselim so you'll 1v1 me instead.

Vex admitted to being kinda similar to me so I'm thinking from my scum style perspective.

If I'm more confident I can beat someone similar to me in a miselim, then I use "paranoia" to get the person I DON'T want to face in endgame.

So if they're like me at all then they're doing what I would do as scum. But my town brain knows how evil my scum brain can be so I must eliminate it first because I don't know if I can't beat it in a 1v1.

Therefore, scum Bambi should be targeting Llama, so town Bambi should target scum Bambi, who in this case is Vex.

Simple math really.

[Bingle]

That's why townhunting is a strong strategy this game. If we can hard identify a town player in a pool, we can afford to lim the rest of that pool.

Okay. Your staking the game on a town pick (obviously excluding you) from each pool. Go.

Didn't I just say a couple pages ago what my solve would be, but that I had little confidence?

If I had to pick right now it'd be Bambi as VT and Ana/RM as town lovers.

[Vex Vience]

i’d much rather not face you in endgame as scum since we’re similar in playstyle.
you versus me would come down to simply who can persuade the other, whereas me versus llama is overall play, which i’m confident in

[Vex Vience]

@jingle who’s the other vt?

[Vex Vience]

its easier for me to point at an entire game worth of play to win, versus a 1v1 to dictate the game

[LlamaFluff]

That's why townhunting is a strong strategy this game. If we can hard identify a town player in a pool, we can afford to lim the rest of that pool.

Okay. Your staking the game on a town pick (obviously excluding you) from each pool. Go.

Didn't I just say a couple pages ago what my solve would be, but that I had little confidence?

If I had to pick right now it'd be Bambi as VT and Ana/RM as town lovers.

Making sure as apparently Friday night is VT night.

@mod

- Can we get a VC?

[Bingle]

@jingle who’s the other vt?

I'm leaning you, but I'm honestly unsure. You and RM both going after me for NAI nonsense left me pretty tilted. Do you agree that Bambi calling out the final lover pair before they outed is probably a town move?

[Bambi Jay]

i’d much rather not face you in endgame as scum since we’re similar in playstyle.
you versus me would come down to simply who can persuade the other, whereas me versus llama is overall play, which i’m confident in

Scum bambi would love to duel town Bambi to the death... But you are slightly different so I guess it's okay

[LlamaFluff]

Im just trying to figure out of Vex would actually use "I cant read them" as a reason to push a wagon as town right now when they apparently have no reason to town read the other member.

[Vex Vience]

@jingle who’s the other vt?

I'm leaning you, but I'm honestly unsure. You and RM both going after me for NAI nonsense left me pretty tilted. Do you agree that Bambi calling out the final lover pair before they outed is probably a town move?

no. i don't really think it's that townie, but it's nothing i would flag as "this is very clearly scummy" in the opening posts of the game.

i’d much rather not face you in endgame as scum since we’re similar in playstyle.
you versus me would come down to simply who can persuade the other, whereas me versus llama is overall play, which i’m confident in

Scum bambi would love to duel town Bambi to the death... But you are slightly different so I guess it's okay

honestly so would i, but my assumption is that that would be the f3/f5, and i've deepwolfed to this point, under vex.
if it was under kori, 100% i'd love to do that, but not under vex.

Im just trying to figure out of Vex would actually use "I cant read them" as a reason to push a wagon as town right now when they apparently have no reason to town read the other member.

i look at it this way:
i'd much rather have someone i know i can flag as town/scum alive than someone i cannot flag as either alignment.

[LlamaFluff]

Im just trying to figure out of Vex would actually use "I cant read them" as a reason to push a wagon as town right now when they apparently have no reason to town read the other member.

i look at it this way:
i'd much rather have someone i know i can flag as town/scum alive than someone i cannot flag as either alignment.

When do you successfully read Bambi then? What needs to happen first?

Also again how do you know you cant read me when you *never* have played with me as town until now?

[Bambi Jay]

Llama you ever play against their Alts instead? Maybe one of those games.

[Bingle]

Llama's heyday is before I was on site. He was the listmod (Open queue) when I modded my first game.

[yessiree]

VC 1.3

With 9 votes, it takes 5 to eliminate

T-Bone - Kerset, Bingle
Vex Vience - LlamaFluff, Bambi Jay
Bingle - Vex Vience
Kerset - Klick
Bambi Jay - RationalMadman

Note Voting - T-Bone, Anastasia

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-05-23 22:00:00)

[LlamaFluff]

Llama's heyday is before I was on site. He was the listmod (Open queue) when I modded my first game.

But yeah its been a minute... Think something like 2011 to 2018 that was what I did before leaving and then now being bored and back in limited capacity. Heck anyone around from 2015 on might my alt better

[RationalMadman]

Today we must vote Bambi, there is no way she is Town and jumping voyes and reads like this.

[RationalMadman]

I firmly scumreas Bambi now.

[Bambi Jay]

Ah, so if we get Vex got I got an Exe on me, cuz I still don't know the new name for that role. condemner or something.

But frankly as long as Vex flips red we good.

[Vex Vience]

what if i don't flip red though?

[Vex Vience]

Im just trying to figure out of Vex would actually use "I cant read them" as a reason to push a wagon as town right now when they apparently have no reason to town read the other member.

i look at it this way:
i'd much rather have someone i know i can flag as town/scum alive than someone i cannot flag as either alignment.

When do you successfully read Bambi then? What needs to happen first?

Also again how do you know you cant read me when you *never* have played with me as town until now?

i don't think i've ever played with bambi before. i think they were in one of my games a long time ago, but i barely remember that. wrt to reading bambi, i just need the game to play out more.
additionally, i know my own limits as a player, and i feel like i have a relatively firm idea of what your playstyle is, which is why i feel comfortable making these calls atm.

[Vex Vience]

Llama you ever play against their Alts instead? Maybe one of those games.

i have never played with llama to the best of my knowledge. they were open-listmod when i first joined the site in 2018, and retired shortly after that

[Bambi Jay]

what if i don't flip red though?

Well then I hope to God I can put up a fight against Llama and don't give scum an instant win.

[Kerset]

also, as an unrelated thing, all my alts have "#CultsArentBastard" in their sig, so there's that

And "Discord: Korina#0359"

[Kerset]

if bambi's playstyle is what i think it is, i don't really care, since i know i'll be able to read them.

I don't like how confident you are in yourself. You should be more caution.