DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[The Church of Skitter]

I think ur sleeping on Vaxkiller I'm not happy with his IV read it feels like he stopped trying to read the slot a long time ago

If you scum read 2 people in that slot how would you feel? Yea I have stopped reading that slot, it's done too much wrong, and I want it sorted out.

the fuck do you mean there's no such thing as done too much wrong

[samantha97]

samantha97 - samantha97 gunning to vote against total war was ballsy, and my thinking earlier in the game was that samantha97 trying to do it to deny scum kills when the reality was that delaying total war granted scum a Night kill (and terrorist two Night kills, but I'm not hunting SK for now) made samantha97 more likely to be town than scum.

skip 3+2 = 1 lynch 2 non-town nks on first voting cycle
defcon 3 = 1 lynch 1 non-town nk (sk) on first voting cycle

it's +1 town as a baseline since mafia get 1 less nightkill (only time it wouldn't be is if mafia were to hit terrorist)

That way half the game basically suicides. There's a good chance at least one scum wil be in there. If anyone claims to havein ABM mode then we lim.

0 mafia will nuke you, especially if town do

also we don't know for sure any mafia have a silo, even if it makes sense for them to

and I maintain that

Vaxkiller Bell gorilla Robert M Hunter Koto T3 innocentvillager

are town and people should recall nukes on them

koto is the weakest since it's just replace speculation but still

plus t3 puts mafia in an awkward position if left alive

[joqiza]

@Vax I didn't say that. I don't see the motivation as any alignment, like maaaybe the terrorist but sub still seems optimal for them.

[The Church of Skitter]

I slept on this and I'm not sure we should be writing off Robert for doing the suboptimal move

[The Church of Skitter]

honestly I'm starting to have too many townreads

[innocentvillager]

The game seems pretty split on whether or not I should recall it.

the way you frame it here makes it seem like 50/50 when it's really not

the only one who really wants me nuked is Vax

a decent chunk of people have me townish but are wary of the the whole recalling nukes thing in general

another decent chunk of people actively want it recalled on me

if you are going to keep the nuke going you should take responsibility for that is your conscious decision and i don't want you to write it off as "oh people were split"

[innocentvillager]

like if that's the case people are going to be "split" on almost everything lmao

[innocentvillager]

I think ur sleeping on Vaxkiller I'm not happy with his IV read it feels like he stopped trying to read the slot a long time ago

If you scum read 2 people in that slot how would you feel? Yea I have stopped reading that slot, it's done too much wrong, and I want it sorted out.

this is the response i thought town!Vax was going to give

ehh sure he's townish enough i guess

[innocentvillager]

Equinox 3127 readlist lowkey kinda spicey. almost seems not caught up which could be town!indicative? like the bell not as near locktown thing whattttt

[innocentvillager]

meh i still don't know why people TR toogeloo (somthing about tooting his own horn for being the 6th vote on VFP? meh, idk, seems very self aware of that fact and it feels like Nexus was gonna go through anyway... maybe)

he also has terrorist equity maybe but let's not go there ig

[innocentvillager]

*VFP was gonna go through (not Nexus)

[Titus]

After these flips, I will launch my nuke. I know I am claiming silo here, but I'll be seeking feedback and I want to threaten people to get reads.

Right now, leaning Robert or The Entity.

[joqiza]

I am leaning towards nuking you Titus for the sake of disclosure

[Titus]

I am leaning towards nuking you Titus for the sake of disclosure

Disclosure? I'm confused.

[joqiza]

it's a turn of phrase, I'm letting you know before you launch your own weapon cuz it would feel dirty otherwise

[innocentvillager]

why nuke titus?

i can't sort her this game at all is she actively scummy?

[Titus]

Regardless of if you nuke me, it's better for town for me to wait and get flips because I am usually better with more flips.

So if you nuke me, it will not change my plans at all.

[Titus]

Aren't you curious as to why those reads?

[joqiza]

i mean i liked titus's vote and reasoning on mastina initially, but since then i've found it hard to vibe with anything she's been putting out. i know we were both defending VFP but i couldn't vibe with the reasoning and today i'm finding it hard to connect again.

like let's review what happened yesterday
- titus and i are defending vfp
- i bring up to titus that i have some issues with her logic
- titus's defense is that she reads vfp as town and the wagonomics argument follows the alignment, rather than the other way

today titus says StD is obvtown, and... well, i'm still not 100% sure what happened there, but either obvtown is just a phrase titus uses to denote people who no more likely to be town than rand, or titus does townread StD from their opening comments but says that the read should be self evident and no further clarification is needed

like to put it simply there is an approach here which we are not able to observe

[joqiza]

Aren't you curious as to why those reads?

yes

[joqiza]

particularly the entity as i don't find that slot scummy. robert idgaf honestly

[Titus]

Robert is based on the strength of LLD's reads.

The Entity is based off wagonomics and the fact I get the creeps when reading their posts.

[Titus]

The fact you jumped to attack rather than asking more questions and supposing I am an unreadable mess is not a good look. This game has been a repeat of people demanding things before the evidence supports it.

[Nexus]

I should've nuked Titus.

[Nexus]

Recall nuke

You live, for now.