DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Cephrir]

i wonder if it's worth killing bell just to prove that

probably not??

[Toogeloo]

Wasn't a hard test to pass.

[Equinox]

Fuck this smug and coy "I can be read only between the lines" bullshit.

[Vaxkiller]

UNVOTE:

[Toogeloo]

Wow....

Why can't Cephrir be an option again?

All 5 of the people I am ok with dying (T3 already flipped), were on the wrong counterwagon to VFP yesterday, and oddly everyone town reads them. I broke the 5v5 tie and placed my vote in scum, and I'm the one who's in danger.

[Toogeloo]

Fuck this smug and coy "I can be read only between the lines" bullshit.

If you know me, you should know in every game I ever play, I always either claim outright, or drop crumbs.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

do you have any corroborating evidence?

[Cephrir]

Wow....

Why can't Cephrir be an option again?

All 5 of the people I am ok with dying (T3 already flipped), were on the wrong counterwagon to VFP yesterday, and oddly everyone town reads them. I broke the 5v5 tie and placed my vote in scum, and I'm the one who's in danger.

it's almost as though mafia is more than just votes! weird.

[Toogeloo]

My wiki.

[Save The Dragons]

like the problem is you're just like "these 5 people including 1 town didn't vote for scum one time"

they're not all scum, so which is the most likely?

[Save The Dragons]

i meant for your reads, not for the crumbs

[Toogeloo]

Wow....

Why can't Cephrir be an option again?

All 5 of the people I am ok with dying (T3 already flipped), were on the wrong counterwagon to VFP yesterday, and oddly everyone town reads them. I broke the 5v5 tie and placed my vote in scum, and I'm the one who's in danger.

it's almost as though mafia is more than just votes! weird.

This game is closer to Bad Idea than actual Mafia. Vote Counts are worth a lot.

[Toogeloo]

i meant for your reads, not for the crumbs

Oh, I've only read about a third of the game. Usually the 5 or so pages before the last post before I make a post. My reads are, "these people helped get scum, these people didn't."

[Toogeloo]

Like, right now, my thought process is, Titus knows Nexus isn't going to get lynched or nuked by a reasonable player after being the counter wagon to an actual scum flip, and after recalling their nuke, so make up some BS excuse to nuke them herself so they don't have to waste a night kill on the slot.

[gorilla]

VOTE: Titus

[samantha97]

Why can't Cephrir be an option again?

pretending like I'm mafia and bussed both mastina (reasonable) and vfp (insane) makes him great from my point of view

[Toogeloo]

can we get a vote count, mr cake

Votecount 2.5

VFP (5) - Bell, gorilla, The Entity, Nexus, samantha97
Nexus (5) - Titus, joqiza, T3, DeasVail, Cephrir
Mognet (2) - Save The Dragons, Vaxkiller
marry (2) - VFP, Robert M Hunter
Robert M Hunter (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, marry
Titus (1) - Mognet
Koto (1) - The Church of Skitter

Not Voting [4] - Koto, DeathNote, Et Al, Toogeloo

(expired on 2021-05-22 17:52:00) remain until day end

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 to reach a majority.

Votecount 2.6

Nexus (6) - Titus, joqiza, T3, DeasVail, Cephrir, Save The Dragons
VFP (5) - Bell, gorilla, Nexus, samantha97, Toogeloo
Robert M Hunter (4) - Lady Lambdadelta, marry, Robert M Hunter, The Entity
innocentvillager (1) - Vaxkiller
marry (1) - VFP
Titus (1) - innocentvillager
Koto (1) - The Church of Skitter

Not Voting [3] - Koto, DeathNote, Et Al

(expired on 2021-05-22 17:52:00) remain until day end

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 to reach a majority.

The first Vote Count is before I cast the tie breaking vote and put VFP in the lead, the second is a momentum shift to put Nexus back in the lead. After this, Bell came into the thread with a post many insinuated as a guilty claim on VFP. A bus after that would be expected.

[samantha97]

but titus should not have the desire to nuke me given she is familiar enough to know I'm town, so that's a big red flag

[Cephrir]

Why can't Cephrir be an option again?

pretending like I'm mafia and bussed both mastina (reasonable) and vfp (insane) makes him great from my point of view

yeah, that empty vote on vfp and little to no other commentary on him couldn't possibly come from scum!

and i wouldn't even call your mastina stance bussing as you were against her elim for a while

[Toogeloo]

I give Save the Dragons a pass for nuking Koto, but it was an easy nuke to make for town cred. So, my focus is on the other 4 people on that wagon. Yes, I know they aren't all scum, but almost all of them is being hand waved today (other than THE).

PEdit: Titus isn't nuking you, she's nuking Nexus. Her actions speak louder.

[Cephrir]

btw what part of claim or die was confusing to you sam

[Toogeloo]

Sam does not need to claim. Forcing that claim is scum motivated.

[Cephrir]

i don't think i can make myself any clearer

[Toogeloo]

We have very few people left to claim with several troops still on the table. Sam was the first person to post after DC4 started. Everyone knows they have a PR.

[Cephrir]

@std, joqiza, gorilla, bell please lmk if you object to this line, i don't really care what anyone else thinks