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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:08 pm

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In post 348, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 336, srckz wrote:Mafia can be played in a lot of ways, if the end result were to just townread people and then vote the scums with no ambiguous grey it would be boring

I just think in a setup like this I wouldn't be so forthright
Why?

I often have difficulty concealing my opinions, and I feel like if I post enough scum will know where I stand anyway. Also when I want to post in a mafia game I'll post and generally that post will involve thoughts on the game so /shrug

Also the grey area comes in who to townread and why
Could you see yourself sticking with a Isis TR for a long period of time like you've declared about Koba? Ydra?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 350, unwnd wrote:
In post 348, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 336, srckz wrote:Mafia can be played in a lot of ways, if the end result were to just townread people and then vote the scums with no ambiguous grey it would be boring

I just think in a setup like this I wouldn't be so forthright
Why?

I often have difficulty concealing my opinions, and I feel like if I post enough scum will know where I stand anyway. Also when I want to post in a mafia game I'll post and generally that post will involve thoughts on the game so /shrug

Also the grey area comes in who to townread and why
Could you see yourself sticking with a Isis TR for a long period of time like you've declared about Koba? Ydra?
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:13 pm

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I don't see myself re-evaluating isis until at least d2, mostly because I don't think scum!isis will be scummy anytime soon. If isis is scum this game it will probably be tough to determine it.

My ydra townread I need to see more from her but I probably will stick with it for a long time if I decide she's town

Idk. I stick with townreads until I have to let go of them. Until I get better at determining which of my reasons to TR people are good and which are bad, that's kinda what I have to do or else l am super recency biased.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:15 pm

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I need to delete infinity before she talks me out of my accurate scumread of her
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:15 pm

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I just saw her slaughter 7 innocent pad academy students like they were sand people
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:16 pm

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:17 pm

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Does anyone else ever get that fear that their current judgment is better than future judgment and the way that judgment could be affected?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:19 pm

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In post 352, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't see myself re-evaluating isis until at least d2, mostly because I don't think scum!isis will be scummy anytime soon. If isis is scum this game it will probably be tough to determine it.

My ydra townread I need to see more from her but I probably will stick with it for a long time if I decide she's town

Idk. I stick with townreads until I have to let go of them. Until I get better at determining which of my reasons to TR people are good and which are bad, that's kinda what I have to do or else l am super recency biased.
I think this is sensible and you at least know yourself

Last thing I want to ask: In Fortress you practiced more restraint. You did have reads, but I felt like you took your time. I'm surprised of your immediacy. Was that just because of the game environment, or something else?
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:20 pm

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Lol

My most obvious weakness as scum is motivation past d1, it might be a while before I can solve that one.

PEdit: yes I think that feeling is usually wrong in mafia games though

@unwnd In fortress I talked about having relatively low motivation, that's mostly the reason. Game environment is also a factor.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:27 pm

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So you're charged for this game? Apologies if the frequent questioning is offputting to you. I get the impression you like hashing things out and it helps your reads.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:29 pm

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I like hashing things out, I'm not sure how much it's helping my reads here, after fortress it's likely I'll read your hydra by the cakez head. Maybe I'll figure out a way to read you this game idk.

Yeah I have more motivation this game for sure.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:34 pm

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I noted you had a scumread on me earlier but talked yourself down from it, so I'm not sure how this isn't helping you? You're getting One on One with me
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:36 pm

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It was a small enough scumread that some surface-level questioning can move it back to null, but I'm under no illusion that you couldn't fake this as scum.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:48 pm

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So do i get the guillotine or are we trying to be more strategic about it

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:52 pm

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Why would you prep the guillotine?
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:54 pm

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Cause i wnt to
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 12:58 pm

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I understand that trying to have scum do it is slightly better..... i assume

But i also somewhat doubt you're getting above random % picking it on the 4 day D1 with no info and maybe there's a reason to have the same person do it over and over again or something :?: which sounds attractive to me

i suppose the actual reason is i want to have this discussion i guess.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:04 pm

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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:06 pm

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In post 366, Morning Tweet wrote:I understand that trying to have scum do it is slightly better..... i assume

But i also somewhat doubt you're getting above random % picking it on the 4 day D1 with no info and maybe there's a reason to have the same person do it over and over again or something :?: which sounds attractive to me

i suppose the actual reason is i want to have this discussion i guess.
Imo we should just have the scummiest person do it and take our ~random chance
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:15 pm

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In post 353, Isis wrote:I need to delete infinity before she talks me out of my accurate scumread of her
Why do you scumread her?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:18 pm

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In post 365, Morning Tweet wrote:Cause i wnt to
I mean i dont have a strong read on you yet but why would you want to be roleblocked instead of someone outside of you? Either scum doesnt prepare guillotine or they dont go to dungeon and kill people - both options roleblock the scum so from your pov you should want to not be assigned it at all
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:19 pm

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Also i dont think ive done anything particularly outside my scumrange except for outting a mech plan that is actually town optimal.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:21 pm

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In post 313, Isis wrote:I think we actually have to do the dungeon N1

If we don't do the dungeon N1 we only have on person with an odd level. That makes us unable to investigate players for whether their level is odd the next night if that player is NKed.

Or at minimum we need two players to prepare the guillotine.

But that removes investigate effects from guillotine preparation.

I think 1 quest 1 guillotine is optimal.
If I do some crazy hard math maybe funky numbers could make just one quest optimal.
stop this - not prepping guillotine is a scumclaim. Its ok on night 1. We will know. There is no way scum can autowin by both failing the quest and the guillotine if they're both assigned to it bc we go down to 6 and then we sleep and all prep guillotine and lim both scum back to back.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 1:36 pm

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You know in hindsight there isn't really a benefit to having me take the guillotine that I can think of outside of like like a scummy suggestion in order to WIFOM townreads which, in turn, makes me the most scummy player or at least one of them, which then enables me to take the guillotine after all

What's the word for that? is it irony? idk

I thought maybe there's an off chance the dungeon ppl dying mechanic or scum being able to chain the multiple deaths with faking to take the guillotine helps them win but i suppose im not more trustworthy for preparing the guillotine just because i set it up all the previous nights

So really I dont know why i wanted it exactly. I'll still take it tho for the aforementioned irony cause that's sort of amusing
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 2:05 pm

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Tweetie wanna just jot off some reads for me? long-form or short-form

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