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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:49 pm

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In post 473, Infinity 324 wrote:@dunn Ok I'm just sort of confused and would like you to elaborate about how much you'd expect town!unwnd to focus on mechanics
I'm not sure if you've really grasped what I was saying

I'm thinking back to last game where they did this same thing and got mad when mechanics were being discussed because it would be bad for them, so they had to shut it down. This is in their scum playbook.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:50 pm

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I'm absolutely fine with everyone taking my recent discussions that are not synonymous to mafia talk as NAI

I stepped outside of that game in that moment, and regardless of my alignment meant what I've said

It wasn't about being favorable, it was just expression
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:50 pm

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I expect them to be aware of what is going on with the mechanics and while they don't have to dig too deep at least focus on the task at hand

Which is: who goes to the dungeon (if anyone) and who preps the guillotine

But instead it feels like they're doing the same thing they did last game as scum, which is, instead of looking at the bigger picture, they're positioning around themself looking good
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:51 pm

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@dunn Yeah I get it but my first thought wrt that is that unwnd probably did that because he'd approach it similarly as town. Why are you assuming/saying the opposite
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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Dunn do you even know my stances on mechanics because I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before

Why is your idea of 'i scumread you' especially when it comes to me

Mean we have to commence battle? Even when I was scum in Fortress I was very agitated by this
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 477, Dunnstral wrote:I expect them to be aware of what is going on with the mechanics and while they don't have to dig too deep at least focus on the task at hand

Which is: who goes to the dungeon (if anyone) and who preps the guillotine

But instead it feels like they're doing the same thing they did last game as scum, which is, instead of looking at the bigger picture, they're positioning around themself looking good
Ok this makes some sense
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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Subject: Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress Mafia PT
unwnd wrote:S_S is trying to win over Absin and Lukewarm was getting all irritable about the fact I'm fake whining about being scumread

I worry that I'm focusing too hard on emotional appealing, but I'm not sure how to contest mechanical logic that keeps being put out. My reason to dislike it is true, but I don't know how to dismantle it.
Here is what I saw from them in the scum pt and why I'm not assuming town
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:54 pm

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"my reason to dislike it is true"
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:54 pm

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Why would unwnd approach it similarly as town?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:54 pm

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By PoE I assume I'm the young knight
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:54 pm

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In post 479, srckz wrote:Why is your idea of 'i scumread you' especially when it comes to me

Mean we have to commence battle? Even when I was scum in Fortress I was very agitated by this
That's not what happened in fortress, I talked with the other guy and he seemed genuine in a way that you did not
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:55 pm

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If you think me wistfully describing my goals to be a screenwriter and encouraging Infinity's poetry is something that can be logically surmised in mafia you're wrong

If you don't want me to do that, I won't

Read me on another aspect
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:55 pm

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I don't know what you're referring to, if you're implying I scumread you for rping, you're wrong
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:56 pm

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In post 483, Emily wrote:Why would unwnd approach it similarly as town?
My assumption is that scum tend to try to approach the game similarly to they would as town, at least on the surface, especially when it seems genuine

Idk. Usually I end up defending people I like too much even when I don't TR them and that's probably what's happening here
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:56 pm

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In post 485, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 479, srckz wrote:Why is your idea of 'i scumread you' especially when it comes to me

Mean we have to commence battle? Even when I was scum in Fortress I was very agitated by this
That's not what happened in fortress, I talked with the other guy and he seemed genuine in a way that you did not
I was pretty much begging for any sort of reasoning to latch onto and you remained steadfast at any attempt lol

What makes this different?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:57 pm

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In post 479, srckz wrote:Dunn do you even know my stances on mechanics because I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before

Why is your idea of 'i scumread you' especially when it comes to me

Mean we have to commence battle? Even when I was scum in Fortress I was very agitated by this
Also stop faking scumreads on me if you don't want me to attack you back?

Otherwise deal with it because I'm moderately omgusy even if I try not to be and I end up being more sensitive when other people throw reads on me that I feel are for bad reasons
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:58 pm

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In post 489, srckz wrote:
In post 485, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 479, srckz wrote:Why is your idea of 'i scumread you' especially when it comes to me

Mean we have to commence battle? Even when I was scum in Fortress I was very agitated by this
That's not what happened in fortress, I talked with the other guy and he seemed genuine in a way that you did not
I was pretty much begging for any sort of reasoning to latch onto and you remained steadfast at any attempt lol

What makes this different?
I'm not sure what you're asking me
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:59 pm

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Pedit:

Freudian slip

I meant similar

Either way I'm not a goddamn fool, I wouldn't try the same tricks twice

I just know myself to some degree and can tap into it as scum

I don't wanna go on about this further

What are some things you want to ask me?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:00 pm

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In post 492, srckz wrote:What are some things you want to ask me?
Let me know what brand of polish you use to sharpen that guillo
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:01 pm

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If by 'what makes this similar' means your read on me: I don't think it's based on good reasons and it feels forced
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:01 pm

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In post 475, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 473, Infinity 324 wrote:@dunn Ok I'm just sort of confused and would like you to elaborate about how much you'd expect town!unwnd to focus on mechanics
I'm not sure if you've really grasped what I was saying

I'm thinking back to last game where they did this same thing and got mad when mechanics were being discussed because it would be bad for them, so they had to shut it down. This is in their scum playbook.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:01 pm

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And you kept bringing it up like you were fixated on it
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:01 pm

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There's better ways to figure out my alignment if you're being sincere with me Dunn

I don't actually enjoy continually just trying to one-up someone in an argument. I would even say that I hate it.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:05 pm

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In post 497, srckz wrote:I don't actually enjoy continually just trying to one-up someone in an argument. I would even say that I hate it.
Are you saying that this is what I'm doing here?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 7:13 pm

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Just so you know, I don't really take scumreading you in Popcorn as the defining moment in how I approach your slot from here on. I think my educated guesses about you littered through out this thread are not absolute and I'm not sure if your offense is taken because you believe they are? Or that I'm trying to sink your slot.

II offered to meet halfway. If your idea of me wanting to look good is compliments and sharing a nice moment, that's not something in my playbook. Furthermore, I don't see where 'not following mechanics' is a reason that follows either, given that

1) There is stances of mine that relate to mechanics, briefly
2) Mechanics, and I've said this before, are the easiest fucking thing to fake and are only specific to alignment based on how they are used, not talked about

I wouldn't break my own predisposed rules here, and I especially wouldn't do it as town. I didn't like your approach initially because of 2). You have said at least to me that you are omgusy to people with bad reasoning. OK. I get that, but if I do know something of myself it's that scum have indignant behavior. Do you really think that my goal as scum is to approach you with a bad read again? I almost lost because I was forced to give a read, I would've definitely been fine just kissing your ass. The circumstances here are different and for my sake I want you to rethink the approach, because it will probably help future games as well. I meant what I said where 'I feel we suck at reading each other' and I don't know where it started.

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