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[OkaPoka]

Official Vote Count 1.10

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to end day early.

End Day -1 -

Anya

Not Voting -8 -

Dunnstral, Isis, Emily, Morning Tweet, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, Chromium, srckz

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-05-22 02:53:06)

Mod notes:

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[unwnd]

but what if your inner voice is a wolf and is manipulating you

I would have MPD?

[srckz]

but what if your inner voice is a wolf and is manipulating you

I would have MPD?

I need to stop doing this

[Dunnstral]

Why not just let people compulsory decide if they're going to the dungeon? Or set up a plan that we could somehow reach the cop incentive before scum kill us off. You're the one with numbers.

The plan for us to get the cop is the plan where we abandon the tracker and level up instead in hopes of getting the other rewards

The other plan is that we instead use the dungeon to take advantage of the 'no multitasking' rule to try to get two scum in the dungeon/guillotine, but even if only one scum is in the dungeon/guillotine there's still an unspoken second phase to this plan

I don't see how letting people decide where they want to go is a better idea than assigning people locations, it seems worse because then there's no chance of both scum being in the same area, and sure, we can read into that, but it's more reliable to have mechanical data that says two people can't be scum together

Let's do that then? Everyone just keep leveling up until cop comes around and then we all throw ourselves at the dungeon. Anyone who doesn't agree is scum-claiming. Hell, even force scum to do it as long as we still have numbers.

Alternatively, initial thought was that we could all dungeon tonight and make sure scum

can't

level up. I think the first solution is probably apt though and agree with Isis that Tracker is kinda shit

You know I just thought about it

Why not force the two scummiest players to go the dungeon

They literally cannot multitask, meaning they can't kill and do dungeon stuff right?

The only reason for scum to level up is to match with the town and if they don't want to fail a dungeon

If the town all forsakes leveling, we're throwing away a big part of the setup.

Having 2 people die in the dungeon is an interesting idea. My initial thought is that because there are better power roles later on, rushing deaths fast is probably unoptimal

@Mod Can scum go to a dungeon and factional kill at the same time?

Huge brain unwnd breaks the setup and forces scum to either die or give up NKs

Same thing for the guillotine, which is why letting people pick whatever they want is also unoptimal

[Emily]

If we are wrong about exactly one scum in the five we trust, that scum can nightkill instead of level up - but this will make sure power roles in the future do not fall into scum hands

[Dunnstral]

I thought of the send 2 people to dungeon thing before but the other scum could surprise help with the dungeon so I was like oh that doesn't work.
But I guess you would learn that one of the original two people who were assigned dungeon duty are scum so it would be worth it.

2 in dungeon one on guillotine seems optimal to me now.

I think it likely keeps is from getting to cop ever because the most likely outcome is that three townies die night one but I think the large number of incremental advantages would be way better than a single cop shot.

We trade away both the later dungeons items as well as the ability to use the dungeon to sort people for raw killing power, effectively making this setup mountainous but with extra town elims in between the scum elim

I don't really think it's a good idea

[Dunnstral]

If we are wrong about exactly one scum in the five we trust, that scum can nightkill instead of level up - but this will make sure power roles in the future do not fall into scum hands

If scum night kill and we manage to elim someone inside of the dungeon at a later date, we generate clears

[Dunnstral]

If I had to guess most people want this

Dungeon duty
Anya
Morning Tweet
(Dunn?)


Guillotine holderz
Infinity

Grind gang
Isis
Koba
Ydra
Emily
Me?

Can you name a player who scumreads me right now aside from your hydra?

[Dunnstral]

If we are wrong about exactly one scum in the five we trust, that scum can nightkill instead of level up - but this will make sure power roles in the future do not fall into scum hands

The power roles are useless in scum hands, they would only want it to keep it out of town hands.

What are scum going to do with a tracker, watcher, cop in this setup? Nothing

[Dunnstral]

Mech discussion is moot since DkKoba is boycotting all plans besides theirs.

So just vote on the four people to clear the dungeon and set guillotine

My stance is also "I'm willing to follow the plan that everybody agrees on" while also arguing against plans I don't agree with

[Emily]

That's a good point Dunn.

Who would you prefer for your team of five?

[Dunnstral]

The people outside of the guillotine/dungeon?

Chromium, Ydrasse, Emily, Isis, Myself

Is what I'm thinking right now

[Ydrasse]

oh my god what a cluster i remembered why i hate mech games

[Anya]

join the end day movement we're gonna make the world a better place

[Ydrasse]

realistically what id do is just send two people to the dungeon to die to have an idea of how wrong or right we were and also because it jsut simplifies things going forward even if it’s not in the spirit of the game

pr shots are cool and all but vigging is more fun. that’s what i’d do tbh if i had the option to say fuck it and kill off 2 others for a chance to hit scum

[Ydrasse]

i’ll vote when we know what we’re settled on

[Ydrasse]

emily is the townier person of that conversation from last night

[Ydrasse]

towniest*

[Ydrasse]

chrominium has like. okay so i know previously they’ve been self righteous about mechanics and in their mind they know they have to fake that and even reference the game where they did things “correctly” wrt mech as where they weren’t listened to but i think it’d be hard to fake it convincingly, especially if they were pushing a sub optimal plan and they knew it, there would be logic holes that would crop up that they’d have to fight off and double down on convincingly etc but they’ve defended their plan repeatedly and without any hesitation at all which is towny even if the plan isn’t what everyone wants/is bad

[Anya]

honestly the 2 person execution plan is boring and it feels unfair to kill people before they can basically even start playing the game properly with actual votes and less engineer talk

i'm rioting let's just do the chromium plan

[Ydrasse]

i’ve also come around on isis. we have the same mentality towards the set up and i liked her posting last night so

if we’re sending 3 to dungeon chrom / isis / emily / ? stays out

probably? dunnstral in this slot, maybe srckz?

i think not being around for that convo in the moment is making it harder for me to figure out infinity but since everyone thinks she’s scum strongly just leave her out

[Ydrasse]

it’s boring because it makes the setup mountainous but it makes it easier imo

[Ydrasse]

and also i think with 40 pages we can have fairly solid reads

[Anya]

let's have fun over making the game easier

[Anya]

and also i think with 40 pages we can have fairly solid reads

without votes and actual stakes the vampires have a lot less to fear and the reads won't be as good