DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[gorilla]

It's a hard setup. I think Samantha getting caught really hurt you and there was no way of predicting that happening.

[The Church of Skitter]

I was worried I would get shot

[gorilla]

@DeasVail, when you read this, don't intercept the missile until we've had the chance to discuss. I believe we may have mechanical autowin, I'm just checking a few things now.

I think we just play follow the cop.

[The Church of Skitter]

tbh I wish I was the terrorist

[gorilla]

Being the terrorist seems so cool

[The Church of Skitter]

I KNOW RIGHT

[The Church of Skitter]

The Public Leaks are broken good

[Titus]

Although STD's nuke is wifom, DV should intercept it.

why did u say STD's nuke is wifom

Typo meant Church

[Bingle]

We have a two clear advantage at the moment. Vax and Cephrir "could" theoretically be scum mates (don't dwell on that now), but IV is almost certainly 100% confirmed town. Vax has to keep delivering, and we have quite a bit of padding here to work with, so long as no one nukes.

This is what I ended up on, btw. I think Bell kill was most likely an attempt to frame someone who could possibly be caught in a lie by Bell, but most roles are confirmable. If I'm still around tonight, I can confirm Vax has a targeting nonkilling role as well as that I'm tracker unless scum waste a kill on me or catch him in a lie.

tl;dr of Joqiza needs to be the first to target a nuke every day because he can obfuscate the nuke target he does, making it so he's a higher priority clear than literally anyone else in the game. We can't take an uncleared Nuke into XLO because if they're scum they can just end the day before with a kill/hammer combo and endgame. All of the nukes need to fire and abort at some point if they haven't confirmed their missile status already.

[gorilla]

No one tell him

[joqiza]

PLEASE READ THIS POST AND TELL ME IF YOU AGREE -- IT IS ABOUT AUTOWIN

I believe we win the game if we enter the night with the pool of the following 5 people:

innocentvillager
Cephrir
Vaxkiller
gorilla(*)
JohnnyFarrar(*)

* mechanically, it doesn't matter which two unclears we take, as long as they have missile silos. I'd recommend gorilla/Johnny but it could just as easily be Titus/Save the Dragons. The conftowns should pick, of course.

- In the example above, Vaxkiller checks either gorilla or JohnnyFarrar. This establishes a CC between Vaxkiller and someone else. If he gets a red check on Johnny, then Vax/Johnny are CC'd. If he gets a green check on Johnny, then Vax/gorilla cc'd.
- We win the game from here because we have the ability to resolve both slots in the CC. In the case of an inno on JohnnyFarrar, gorilla nukes Vax, and then Johnny nukes gorilla. In the case of a guilty on JohnnyFarrar, Johnny nukes Vax, and gorilla nukes Johnny.
- It doesn't matter who the mafia kill--we still win. If the mafia kills Vaxkiller, then Johnny/gorilla resolve each other.
- In the craziest edge case, where Vaxkiller is actually scum missile silo fake claiming espionage, we still win, because he always gets nuked in every scenario, and he can't kill every other villager.

IF EVERYONE AGREES THAT THIS IS AUTOWIN, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH THIS GAMESTATE TODAY

WE HAVE ENOUGH ELIMINATIONS THAT WE CAN KILL EVERYONE EXCEPT THE POOL OF FIVE

PLEASE WORK THROUGH THE LOGIC AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK

[gorilla]

FWIW, the espionage claim is confirmed real because I tried to take it and didn't get it.

[gorilla]

Running it through in my head...yep, that is auto.

[gorilla]

However, I would urge the remaining scum not to concede so we can make the mod write entertaining flavor for all the deaths.

[innocentvillager]

everyone has claimed and yeah espionage is confirmed to be taken

i think everyone true claimed

[innocentvillager]

if i had to bet my life savings on this being 100.000000000000% autowin i wouldn't do it, but from what my dumb ass can tell i think the logic is sound, seems likle autowin

[Bingle]

Plan seems solid to me.

FUCK IT

NUKE BINGLE

Fuck you, Ali.

I replace in because Cakez asks me to, read all of the mech shit and ask a bunch of setup questions over night, get invested: and you take the first opportunity to yeet me? This is some Dannflor levels of betrayal.

[Bingle]

Spoiler:

[The Church of Skitter]

blame IV
he caught my slip

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm down, joq

[innocentvillager]

let's also decide who nukes who (and that they confirmed have a nuke from yesterday) and make sure everything's good there?

also someone's silo could be in the other non-nuke mode right?

[Bingle]

As soon to be conftown, I demand the right to pick the Nuke order.

Joq kills Toog.
STD kills DV.
Titus Kills STD.
Johnny Kills Joq.
Ceph Kills Titus.

Ceph should wait until after all of the other flips to submit just in case someone breaks the plan, but you owe me this much.

[gorilla]

let's also decide who nukes who (and that they confirmed have a nuke from yesterday) and make sure everything's good there?

also someone's silo could be in the other non-nuke mode right?

Yes, but anyone in defensive launch mode should be considered scumclaiming

[Bingle]

blame IV
he caught my slip

Nah, your fault for being scum in the first place. Just like Dannflor chose to be drafted by Pine.

BETRAYED!

[innocentvillager]

im fine with Bingle's order, doesn't really matter to me

cool so everyone should confirm that they read the plan and agree and any deviations will be met with instant death? everyone with a silo should confirm that they are in nuke mode

also to speed up please sui after u get nuked and vote for fast night