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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 2194, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 2185, Isis wrote:Tweet might say she wouldn't do the mech frame but I think she would
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:08 pm

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Emily comes across as very contrarian to srckz (is that the word?)
In post 2183, Emily wrote:
In post 2181, srckz wrote:I hate that I can't rely on tonal pinging, because there is a trove.

My only reason I don't want to is that I respect people too much here. That's it.
I thought you hated to play by tonereading
In post 2191, Emily wrote:
In post 2189, srckz wrote:I hate having my full reason to be tone. I am very much there right now and I don't know if I want to trust it.
Is my tone very evil this game?
Like does this come across as actually scumreading srckz or does it come across like shading/nitpicking to you

You could say something about her being apologetic, and i think in her place i'd start to feel a bit unhappy when the emotional response started coming. nyeh I personally dont think an apologetic tone is a super bad point against her
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 2198, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2193, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 2182, Isis wrote:
In post 2177, Morning Tweet wrote:I heavily dont think we get the scumteam perfectly D0
I'm about positive this qualifies as a variant of Gambler's Fallacy in its context.
Mm, maybe. I really don't see srckz/Infinity being the case, though.

Interestingly enough Emily is doubling down on this possibility and Dunn finds that it makes sense. that is more or less what i was expecting
It makes sense if they're together, the only other real choice is to kill nobody

Individually on reads, I think it's likely that there's scum in there

I think it could easily be a case where 1 of them is scum, and johnny was killed because their flip would otherwise clear the dungeon-goers + guillo prepper (because someone died at night), or/and as MT said keep the pool of 5 wide if there's 1 outside who is looking to play the deep wolf
Well right and i agree it does makes sense, although i was more curious about how likely you feel it is

Like, say, if there were votes for srckz/Infinity team versus another team, who you'd side with.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:10 pm

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I try to moderate how heavily I attack someone because there's always a good chance I'm just wrong here.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 2199, Emily wrote:
In post 2194, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 2185, Isis wrote:Tweet might say she wouldn't do the mech frame but I think she would
You know me too well
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 2191, Emily wrote:
In post 2189, srckz wrote:I hate having my full reason to be tone. I am very much there right now and I don't know if I want to trust it.
Is my tone very evil this game?
No, the opposite. You seem to be playing at best interest for everyone. This is supposed to be good, but I'm being told by the sircakez on my shoulder that you're pushing us as scum agenda.

I think your push on me isn't too great, but that's bias. I'm town and I'm probably a bit wary of that type of thing.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 2203, Emily wrote:I try to moderate how heavily I attack someone because there's always a good chance I'm just wrong here.
Well what are the alternate worlds you're considering if srckz/Infinity is wrong?
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:12 pm

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Isis where is your Infinity thought when the pressure is all on her? What are you ruminating about?
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:13 pm

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I got my second covid shot and am tired but I'm wondering if there's a reason to shoot johnny that's not to frame me/cakez

Like cakez could shoot johnny and then try to push me but that's not happening obviously

The me/cakez isn't getting as much support as I'd expect if scum tried to frame us

Maybe it's just emily/dunn or w/e. Idk

Cakez keeps feeling scummy to me but
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 2198, Dunnstral wrote:I think it could easily be a case where 1 of them is scum, and johnny was killed because their flip would otherwise clear the dungeon-goers + guillo prepper (because someone died at night), or/and as MT said keep the pool of 5 wide if there's 1 outside who is looking to play the deep wolf
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 2202, Morning Tweet wrote: Like, say, if there were votes for srckz/Infinity team versus another team, who you'd side with.
Right now I think it's a bit more likely for it to be 'another team' that also consists of one of srckz/infinity

With that said, I'm biased enough to where if one flips scum I'd probably end up voting out the other, as a sort of monty hall variant where it becomes more likely that the other is scum

I'd like to vote within Infinity/srckz today, and have the other man the guillotine, I think
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 2208, Infinity 324 wrote:I got my second covid shot and am tired but I'm wondering if there's a reason to shoot johnny that's not to frame me/cakez
Yes, there is:

If one of you/srckz/mt are scum with somebody in the group of 5, you can be preemptively killing people who would be cleared with your flip while keeping the 'deep wolf' safer
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:16 pm

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If the team is like srckz + a camp player, isn't shooting Johnny just terrible? I guess id have to think more about that though

If you're gonna frame srckz/Infinity, i think srckz falls first probably so you're basically bussing

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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 1624, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Chrom
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I don't believe that a srckz-infinity team chooses to no kill over killing johnny as long as they could reasonably come up with the plan, based on johnny's own reads here
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 2212, Morning Tweet wrote:If the team is like srckz + a camp player, isn't shooting Johnny just terrible? I guess id have to think more about that though

If you're gonna frame srckz/Infinity, i think srckz falls first probably so you're basically bussing

Dunno
No, because:

Say ydrasse dies and we kill srckz, and srckz flips scum

That makes MT, Infinity, Johnny all cleared, and one dies at night but then there's still 2 clears left
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:17 pm

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Tweetie you're really town this day and I feel like an idiot for thinking you were just being outvibed.

That probably means one of the vibers is scum, actually
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 2214, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2212, Morning Tweet wrote:If the team is like srckz + a camp player, isn't shooting Johnny just terrible? I guess id have to think more about that though

If you're gonna frame srckz/Infinity, i think srckz falls first probably so you're basically bussing

Dunno
No, because:

Say ydrasse dies and we kill srckz, and srckz flips scum

That makes MT, Infinity, Johnny all cleared, and one dies at night but then there's still 2 clears left
Ahh, yes I see. Tricky that
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:19 pm

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And the players in the dungeon are there because they were suspected, more or less, so it makes sense to play around the person who isn't suspected

This makes sense to me, I think if the scum were, say, MT, they'd maybe think MT had more of a chance of living and so would have killed someone outside anyway
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:20 pm

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if a person dies in the dungeon, can they still receive the PR?
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 2218, srckz wrote:
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if a person dies in the dungeon, can they still receive the PR?
As previously established, yes
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 1902, OkaPoka wrote:
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If someone in the dungeon were to be nightkilled, would their death make it so the dungeon could be failed? Or does death resolve after.
The death (and kill) resolves after.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 2218, srckz wrote:
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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Didn't catch it

I dislike this mechanic more and more

The cop is very pivotal here
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:23 pm

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If Johnny dies, we kill srckz!scum

Morning is still clear -- but Infinity isn't.. so that creates one clear that you might be able to NK which is vastly better than 3 clears yes

So it seems like doing a nightkill outside of the dungeon is seriously clearing and you should never do that

..

If the team consists of only people in the camp as I was thinking about, is it still best to kill Johnny every time? Hmm, i think so yeah

But if it's dungeon + camp then you're right and they still kill Johnny, so it's not bad nvm
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon May 24, 2021 3:24 pm

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In post 2213, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1624, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Chrom
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I don't believe that a srckz-infinity team chooses to no kill over killing johnny as long as they could reasonably come up with the plan, based on johnny's own reads here
Yeah although the "reasonably come up with the plan" is the problematic part, I'm not so sure they would

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