DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[innocentvillager]

im still not convinced STD is town, btw

[innocentvillager]

That's how scum want to approach multiball and I think the same logic applies here.
Scum don't want to get shot by scum and need to kill scum first.

I shouldn't be hunting but STD isn't group scum. TBH I actually hope I'm wrong about him but it seems very stereotypically likely.

Now that I think about it tho, I actually think I'm wrong. I'm not actually sure he kills Pooky or LLD.

Maybe he kills Et all but I'm not sure

uh i have church as town but this almost seemed like tmi that LLD was the terrorist kill, then backtracking after they realized they slipped

can you clarify what you were thinking here?

this is actually really bothering me can someone talk me out of this thanks

like why is church assuming LLD was the terrorist kill at this point. very sus. yes the Cakez leak was outed but i don't recall church taking part in the terrorist kill speculation.

[innocentvillager]

I swear to skitter I am a villager

i see what you did there

ugh ur not just lolcatting me here are u ali

[innocentvillager]

and that's because I read my post over, forgot that the leak happened, don't ask me why, half of the time I play I'm stoned, Titus knows this and would probably end up telling me "ALI UR STONED ALL OF TEH TIME ITS NOT AN EXCUSE" EVEN THO I AM NOT BUT ASIDE THE POINT.
I forgot that the leak happened and in panic I decided to cover my tracks even though I am a villager

so u posted that and then you thought all of those before your next post? in the span of a minute?

[innocentvillager]

*posted 3604

then read it over
then panicked and backtracked and posted 3605

in 1 minute

[innocentvillager]

im sorry i dont know if i believe you

[innocentvillager]

if anything being stoned looks worse to me because ur more likely to scumslip if ur scum?

[innocentvillager]

i get that u have been pretty towny in general but this feels too like, sus to me

id like opinions of other conftowns on this (who is that again? Ceph assuming Vax town? anyone else?)

[innocentvillager]

also u reread the whole post (3604) or just the very last sentence?

[innocentvillager]

??????

[innocentvillager]

what the fuck?

[innocentvillager]

did i just catch scum!Ali with that one slip

[innocentvillager]

my trump card was that, it was actually 12 seconds, not 1 minute

[innocentvillager]

wow my reread did something useful

[innocentvillager]

lmao damn they are that deepwolfed?

[innocentvillager]

(it's me, im the scumbuddy and this is just an epic bus)

[innocentvillager]

wait FUCK i got copped

[innocentvillager]

wait there are 10 ppl left after u and bingle die and at least like 2 are conftown

this shud be ez rite? i have not been following all the mech discussion btw

[innocentvillager]

alright im not gonna read 3605 up to here anymore

that was my contribution to the town win

ill assume this is auto then unless this game is still going in a week

[innocentvillager]

damn ali ur scumgame is scary holy

[innocentvillager]

the theatre with VFP at eod actually kinda fooled me was that interaction planned or did it just happen

[innocentvillager]

you mean like STD did?

[innocentvillager]

so they just scumclaimed and u went "wtf they actually claimed? oh well, perfect opportunity to insult my partner to distance" and they just responded like that naturally

it all looked so real

[innocentvillager]

i see why they call u master of scum AtE

[innocentvillager]

skitter rolling in her grave after u swearing to her u were town smh

[innocentvillager]

skitter rolling in her grave after u swearing to her u were town smh

[innocentvillager]

no ive only played with town LLD

[innocentvillager]

i mean i wasn't completely convinced u were scum... but u did jump to the bottom of my readslist

[innocentvillager]

well ive never played with skitter but from the way the scumteam in Mini 2200 talked about her in the PT, i know a lot of people fear town!skitter so i didn't really trace it to u specifically

[innocentvillager]

Although STD's nuke is wifom, DV should intercept it.

why did u say STD's nuke is wifom

[innocentvillager]

obviously u mean Church but why did STD pop in ur head

[innocentvillager]

everyone has claimed and yeah espionage is confirmed to be taken

i think everyone true claimed

[innocentvillager]

if i had to bet my life savings on this being 100.000000000000% autowin i wouldn't do it, but from what my dumb ass can tell i think the logic is sound, seems likle autowin

[innocentvillager]

let's also decide who nukes who (and that they confirmed have a nuke from yesterday) and make sure everything's good there?

also someone's silo could be in the other non-nuke mode right?

[innocentvillager]

im fine with Bingle's order, doesn't really matter to me

cool so everyone should confirm that they read the plan and agree and any deviations will be met with instant death? everyone with a silo should confirm that they are in nuke mode

also to speed up please sui after u get nuked and vote for fast night

[innocentvillager]

obviously everyone needs to be present and agree to this plan before we start nuking anyone

[innocentvillager]

tell me if any of this is wrong:

CLEAR Cephrir -

Silo

CLEAR innocentvillager - Covert Ops

Save the Dragons -

Silo

Vaxkiller - Espionage
Toogeloo - Battleship
gorilla -

Silo

JohnnyFarrar -

Silo

DeasVail - Strategic Missile Defense
Titus -

Silo

joqiza - Submarine
Bingle - Radar

Ceph nuked sam
STD nuked koto
gorilla nuked Robert
Johnny nuked joq
Titus nuked Nexus

so these 5 are confirmed to be pure missile silos kk

[innocentvillager]

1. Submarine - joq
2. Espionage - Vax
3. Fighter - Bell

4. Aircraft Carrier - CONF skittersmart

5. Battleship - Toog
6. SMD - DeasVail
7. Radar - Bingle

8. Counterintelligence - CONF Robert

9. Covert Ops - CONF innocentvillager

this was prisms list btw so we're good on this front as well

[innocentvillager]

Let's just go with exact ordering everyone should review the plan and confirm in thread that this is okay (and if missile silo confirm ur in nuke mode)

As soon to be conftown, I demand the right to pick the Nuke order.

Joq kills Toog.
STD kills DV.
Titus Kills STD.
Johnny Kills Joq.
Ceph Kills Titus.

Ceph should wait until after all of the other flips to submit just in case someone breaks the plan, but you owe me this much.

I believe we win the game if we enter the night with the pool of the following 5 people:

innocentvillager
Cephrir
Vaxkiller
gorilla(*)
JohnnyFarrar(*)

Confirmations: Bingle, innocentvillager, gorilla

[innocentvillager]

thanks to joq for mapping it all out like that

[innocentvillager]

Confirmations: Bingle, innocentvillager, gorilla, JohnnyFarrar, joqiza

@everyone who hasn't read this yet, plz don't just trust us and actually convince urself it's autowin, im paranoid that there's some tiny edge case we're not considering (but im jsut a paranoid person in general and i will be so embarrassed if we somehow lose this)

[innocentvillager]

ya my guess has been StD as well but i didn't guess church was scum until that thing

[innocentvillager]

i reread the OP roles and i got a heart attack that Battleship protects someone from dying today

but toogeloo protected Vax who's supposed to survive in the plan anyway so we're good

[innocentvillager]

Confirmations: Bingle, innocentvillager, gorilla, JohnnyFarrar, joqiza, Vaxkiller, Toogeloo, Cephrir

Waiting on: Titus, DeasVail, Save The Dragons, The Church of Skitter

[innocentvillager]

Save the dragons 5-3 odds.

ill take 37.5% for StD to be scum if that's what that means

not actually sure my fair is higher than that but sounds fun LOL

[innocentvillager]

would make sense why he nuked Koto honestly, if Church was tilted at him for doing nothing and not posting in scum PT

[innocentvillager]

Cephrir, JohnnyFarrar, Titus have confirmed their silo is in nuke mode
gorilla has already nuked Church

waiting on StD to confirm nuke-mode (or concede)

[innocentvillager]

uh let's not do anything until church dies i don't want to take any chances

[innocentvillager]

Waiting on: DeasVail, The Church of Skitter

(no rush Deas don't think Church is sui'ing)

everyone has confirmed silo in nuke mode

[innocentvillager]

(if scum wants to concede now *that* would accelerate the game, there's pretty much no way we don't just slowly execute this plan at this point even if u don't concede for the wifom)

[innocentvillager]

im scum and i concede

[innocentvillager]

(^it's that easy, that's all you have to say)

[innocentvillager]

o hi mena!

can you please confirm that you'll follow the plan? just waiting on u and one other

[innocentvillager]

oh i guess u could just sui rn

[innocentvillager]

hm

[innocentvillager]

wait if u sui can Church retract nuke... ugh whatever lets just wait i out

[innocentvillager]

lmao im even more convinced StD is last scum here

[innocentvillager]

fuck same my pm apparently says "godfather"? idk what that means

[innocentvillager]

apparently when i was stoned i misread "godfather" as "covert ops" my bad

[innocentvillager]

lmao im even more convinced StD is last scum here

oops sorry StD

and ggs

[innocentvillager]

I didn’t feel the game was that toxic but I imagine most of it happened before I arrived

[innocentvillager]

definitely don’t think Ali nuking Bingle was a throw, scum has to do that some % of the time in theory (plus it was auto)

I still think the Ali rxn thing was really sus even before eir explanation and I probably would’ve yelled about it for the rest of the day unless other people bought Ali’s explanation and told me I was being pedantic

Which definitely could’ve happened. I wasn’t sold on it

[innocentvillager]

I thought the game was super cool and sorry for not being my usual obvtown self/constantly in catchup mode

i should think harder before replacing into a long game

[innocentvillager]

game being super cool part was @Cakez great flavor and everything

[innocentvillager]

lmao why couldn’t I do that BEFORE u wasted a cop on me :/

[innocentvillager]

my scumgame is legit so bad that I’m just obvtown when I’m town usually so this was a first

[innocentvillager]

I would’ve cried if gorilla was scum