Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oof

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

[JohnnyFarrar]

Happy 33rd, drgn. I got you this wagon

[VFP]

@VFB have you ever been read based on meta? And what about us townreading you makes you think it's scum motivated?

Of course.
I went from having votes.on me to suddenly changing their mind to me scum whole I wasn't even here.
It's not even like I posted something to change the view.

Nora pings me for just trying to push it as LHF, and just trying to move else where, and IVD has no experience with me to meta read me.

[RLotus]

I like what I see from ssbm, it feels like they are making a genuine effort to investigate.

I get the feeling gamma is trying to draw content out of people rather than trying to take advantage of lurker slots.

So, I'm feeling something like this rn

Town lean
IVD
ssbm
Gamma
Nora

Null
Andre
Max
Luke
Save the Dragons
UCV
VFP
Dunn
Johnny

Lotus, you don’t have a single SR? Nobody that pings you? If I was ever going to be offended by anything, it would be that hahaha

Nope, still don't really. No one has really stuck out as overtly suspicious to me. I don't see how someone has a confident scumread at this point. Not a fan of grasping at straws to justify a scumread either

Regarding 179, I found it odd that he didn't have a read on me since at that point in the game, I think some of the most substantive comments were between me, Luke, and Italiano. If he had been reading Italiano's posts and sorting him as a townie would, he should have noticed all the replies between me and Italiano and had some opinion on me.

Like this shit for example

[RLotus]

Lotus, you don’t have a single SR? Nobody that pings you? If I was ever going to be offended by anything, it would be that hahaha

He sorted by post count and put the top 4 as town

leans

, threw everyone else in null, and called it a day

I mean yeah, the most active people gave me the strongest impression and the less active people gave me little to no impression.

[MaxTheFox]

I don't think it makes sense to complain about lack of coherent SRs so early. Page 30 and onward, maybe.

[MaxTheFox]

Reads (anyone not mentioned is null, reads are mostly tonal if no reason if given):

Town bin

MaxTheFox - duh
Noraa - practically the town leader
Save The Dragons
Gamma Emerald

Town lean

Lukewarm - I like their reads
Gamma Emerald
RLotus

Scum lean

VFP - they seem to keep out of the limelight and their posts just smell weird to me
Kyouko

Scum bin

Nobody yet.

[ItalianoVD]

Because I've done fuck all this game.
Nora and IVD look the worst though jumping off the wagon.

You may not have done anything but I use tone if I have nothing else to go on and most of your posts have a somewhat town feel to them. I have no problem placing you there for now.

[ItalianoVD]

Actually, now that I consider it, our thinking possibly did differ. I think Kyouko didn’t place as much suspicion on VFP as I did, if any. That’s the logical explanation for why Kyouko acted differently.

Do you at least see where I’m coming from now?

[ItalianoVD]

Votecount

Dunnstral [3]:

RLotus, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons

ssbm_Kyouko [2]:

Lukewarm, ItalianoVD

Gamma Emerald [1]:

VFP

Andresvmb [1]:

JohnnyFarrar

ItalianoVD [1]:

ssbm_Kyouko

Save The Dragons [1]:

Dunnstral

Noraa [1]:

Andresvmb

Andresvmb [1]:

Noraa

Not Voting: UC Voyager, MaxTheFox

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-05-28 14:03:00) or when majority is reached.

Lotus now that you’ve seen more from Dunn is it enough to not vote for him or are you still comfortable there?

[ItalianoVD]

And Andres dipped off saying he was drunk and still hasn't come back.

Btw I was hungover, not drunk. I was drunk the day before. That lead to the hangover. If I said that on a Saturday, I believe I kept drinking that day too, so I didn’t end up resting. If it was Sunday, I was resting.

I’m sorry but why is this always the excuse in these games? That doesn’t excuse poor play or lack of content or whatever, at least not for me. It’s simple. If you’re drunk don’t post.

[ItalianoVD]

Btw I think ssbm has a much better handle of the gamestate than I ever could this early so I’m going to sheep them.

VOTE: ItalianoVD

Seriously??

[ItalianoVD]

Literally every stance Kyouko has made feels off to me. Like they are hunting for excuses to scum read people (which scum do), instead of actually reading people (which townies do)

VOTE: Kyouko

I also think there’s potential (take this with a grain of salt) that Lukewarm is Scum.

I think Lukewarm’s thinking process is scary good. All anybody needs to do is read 144 to come to this conclusion. There is a level of attentiveness behind that post that tends to be hard to showcase as Scum. In a way, I agree, actually. I felt the same way reading Gamma’s post in that they seemed self-conscious, defending a point that most other players, in the grand scheme of things, probably ignore. But you know what? I think Scum are more likely to not make the clarification Gamma made, rather than the reverse. I think Lukewarm is grabbing onto something they know they can effectively paint as Scummy, that I don’t think really is. It’s a clever move.

Now, I could be WAY off. Lukewarm is definitely a challenging player to read and they seem methodical. But I TR ssbm, and I don’t like their push there, and they seem somewhat obstinate. So that’s enough for me to express my suspicions of the slot.

Something about this I don’t like. I think it’s the seeming defense of both Lukewarms scumreads. Like that’s bothersome to me, but I can’t really articulate it fully. Can someone else look at it and see if I’m just being paranoid.

[ItalianoVD]

I think Nor generating a lot of content is a town feel for me.
I got a town read for save. I'm not quite sure exactly.
I really can't make reads on people who haven't posted much.
I got a weird feel about ITA and Gamma that I might read into.

Have you read into what you felt was weird yet?

[JohnnyFarrar]

This readalong is really fun

[ItalianoVD]

Literally every stance Kyouko has made feels off to me. Like they are hunting for excuses to scum read people (which scum do), instead of actually reading people (which townies do)

VOTE: Kyouko

I also think there’s potential (take this with a grain of salt) that Lukewarm is Scum.

I think Lukewarm’s thinking process is scary good. All anybody needs to do is read 144 to come to this conclusion. There is a level of attentiveness behind that post that tends to be hard to showcase as Scum. In a way, I agree, actually. I felt the same way reading Gamma’s post in that they seemed self-conscious, defending a point that most other players, in the grand scheme of things, probably ignore. But you know what? I think Scum are more likely to not make the clarification Gamma made, rather than the reverse. I think Lukewarm is grabbing onto something they know they can effectively paint as Scummy, that I don’t think really is. It’s a clever move.

Now, I could be WAY off. Lukewarm is definitely a challenging player to read and they seem methodical. But I TR ssbm, and I don’t like their push there, and they seem somewhat obstinate. So that’s enough for me to express my suspicions of the slot.

Okay let me come back to this. Why did you agree in the fact of how you felt when reading Gamma only to say, but no it’s scummy to pickup and push on that. And what was wrong with the push on Kyouko? I know you townread him but you don’t see Lukewarm’s push coming from town at all?

[ItalianoVD]

I'd like to say that this isn't true but I'm having a hard time reading Dunn this game so I'm not willing to comment on his alignment anymore until I'm more certain. I do overall agree that Dunn probably shouldn't be the day 1 lim.

How do you get certain? Is it just reading more of his posts? Or his votes? Etc..

[ItalianoVD]

Meh I need to UNVOTE: . I don’t really SR Italiano to be totally honest.

So what was that? A reaction test or something?

[ItalianoVD]

My thoughts:

I looked over gamma and other than his push on me which I did not like, the rest of their posting seems fine
Andres feels fine on tone but too early to get a good grasp
Max... feels scummy to me, always has
Savethedragons is "ok", not where I want my vote today
I read through VFP iso and I don't know, they made a good point that they haven't done anything and the townreads on them are weird, kind of feel they're being hypocritical by also calling me town, and I don't know about 370

I didn’t like how Gamma was trying to paint your lurking as scum and kinda disregarded a space for town you.
So you’ve played with Max before? Or are you just talking about this game?
And no read on me?

[ItalianoVD]

VOTE: RLotus

Alright Lotus, let’s not be masons. You definitely need to sharpen your pencil.

VOTE: Lotus now we're getting somewhere

VOTE: Lotus

wagon ahoy

VOTE: RLotus

Yeah not liking this.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Becauseeeeee?

[ItalianoVD]

God damn it I was going to vote him first

However, I don’t think scum posts this.

UNVOTE: Kyouko

[ItalianoVD]

Becauseeeeee?

Because of the fast formation and the voters and my read on them.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So you've covered Andre this page. Kyoko you seemingly flipped on?

What do you think of me and noraa?