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[OkaPoka]

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Emily -1 -

Morning Tweet

srckz -1 -

Chromium

Not Voting -6 -

Dunnstral, Emily, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, srckz, Isis

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(expired on 2021-05-31 16:09:05)

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[Morning Tweet]

I ignore AtE btw so dont bother

Rearrange that to EaT because you can EaT my ass

AAAAHAHAHA

[Morning Tweet]

Infinity engages the elim options believably like town, whereas Emily doesn't, more later

[Isis]

Knowing Emily's identity makes me less confident she is town. I'm not sure I can put her at the front of the marathon pack for towntelling the most. I increasingly want to buy a world where she is town and Cakez is scum with infinity. The main other ways to make space for her to be town is Dunnstral or Ydrasse being scum, neither of which feel right.

I maybe should be worried I am townreading scumstral here. It's never happened before but probalistically the opportunity to make the mistake shouldn't come up often. My reasons for townreading him aren't voluminous at all but after 10 games with somebody where I've scumread him by now in like 6 of them it seems he should be town by default

[Morning Tweet]

Knowing Emily's identity makes me less confident she is town. I'm not sure I can put her at the front of the marathon pack for towntelling the most.

This is how Emily's identity influenced my read, as well -- Chrome's opposite opinion on this kinda surprised me.

Why does everyone but me think srckz/Infinity is possible (っ>﹏<)っ !

On top of having to get the D1 solve perfect and Infinity seeming towny to me, all of these posts would have to be staged

[Morning Tweet]

it doesn’t make sense for one of you to be scum w outside partner because that’s a risk a59/59 hoping that the other person gets flipped

I thought this earlier but if a dungeon/camp team kills outside the dungeon and the dungeoneer gets eliminated, that clears three people

Killing inside the dungeon was always the move for every team, I think. Camp/camp would confirm 1+ scum inside the camp if they killed in the camp AND removed one of the camper possibilities. Much better to kill inside dungeon which clears no one

[Morning Tweet]

The biggest sign Emily has shown thus far of hesitation or considering other options with regards to scum is "Let's both sacrifice ourselves" -- which i may remind you, is slightly lamist and that plan doesn't actually benefit town if Emily is scum, it actually slightly harms town since it wastes the dungeon cycle from being used

Emily has no alternative besides Srckz/Infi. Emily has gone nowhere else and argued that srckz/Infinity is possible but never really stops to think about whether or not it's likely, beyond "Well they're both my scumreads so it's likely". emily's criticisms of srckz have come across as nitpicky at best this phase to me. Their suspicion of Ydrasse today and yesterday subjectively seems off to me although id be open to disagreeing -- yesterday's sussing on Ydrasse seemed like a mistake to me and today it seems more like an afterthought to them after i asked several times where they might think scum is besides the dungeon. I think Emily had really good tone and was generally quite pleasant last phase but im not sure there was anything unexpected scum!them couldnt pull off, i did not notice anything out of the usual correct me if im wrong.

I can understand the srckz elim on an individual level but combined with how everyone wants to elim them and nobody wants to elim Emily, Infinity coming across as town to me, srckz/Emily and srckz/Infinity never being teams to me -- i just dont favour it.

[Morning Tweet]

What are we doin with regards to night actions tonight by the way

Might be prudent to make two separate plans for scum flip versus town flip

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: Emily

[Morning Tweet]

it is advantageous to give town pr roles but it’s also hard to believe that... between everyone we couldn’t get in a group of four the scum team imo, since that’s half the game

believe it knowing that Johnny/I are town

But sigh i still dont disagree srckz is the only possibility within the group

p-edit it’s just hard to reconcile scum outside of you two doing this kill? it’s a frame job that only gets us to kill 1 of you (and while we could try to Win and get you and inf to get into the dungeon that’s really bad if it’s wrong) before we realize “oh here we go” and also clearing infinity/mt(?)

Killing inside the dungeon was the only way to kill without generating total clears on scum flips. Because all the campers and the dungeoneers were both capable of doing it.

The only think it confirms is MT/srcks and MT/Infi are impossible

But thats wayy better than camp/dungeon killing in the camp and clearing 3 ppl on dungeon's death

Or camp/camp killing in the camp confirming 1+ scum within the 4 remaining campers and taking heat off the dungeon

[Morning Tweet]

Like the Johnny kill was just optimal

You might portray it like it'd take a scum mastermind which i think is debatable but regardless it's still optimal play IMO

Leaving all the campers alive and making the dungeoneers look really sus (when they were already being sussed) and possibly getting back to back elims on the dungeoneers is huge. Not killing the campers is also huge because thats more paranoia suspects left alive making it harder to discern the scum inside there when we get to that point

[Morning Tweet]

Dunnstral demonstated he understood the ramifications of how the nightkills work pretty well. Isis is capable. Emily/Ydrasse im not familar with their mechanical ability. I might be capable -- you have to remember when you're scum you're more likely to look at every kill possibility and analyze them each, obviously as town thats not really at the front of your mind.

I somewhat believe Chrome not understanding the mechanics, and I certainly do srckz

[unwnd]

I did understand the mechanics! If you're gonna call me scum call me scum

But to think I drool on myself at night is another thing

[Ydrasse]

not to brag aha but i’m a little bit of a master strategist so i REALLY totally understood the ramifications of any kill scum could make

[Isis]

VOTE: Ydrasse

Got er

[Dunnstral]

I did understand the mechanics! If you're gonna call me scum call me scum

But to think I drool on myself at night is another thing

So what was this series of posts:

if you and inf are scum you can't really shoot ydra without giving yourself away?

Why not? I really don't see how that. Could you explain it?

Moreso, explain it why scum couldn't shoot Ydra here. Or if (not shooting Ydra) only makes sense where me/Inf are scum

[Dunnstral]

Knowing Emily's identity makes me less confident she is town. I'm not sure I can put her at the front of the marathon pack for towntelling the most. I increasingly want to buy a world where she is town and Cakez is scum with infinity. The main other ways to make space for her to be town is Dunnstral or Ydrasse being scum, neither of which feel right.

I maybe should be worried I am townreading scumstral here. It's never happened before but probalistically the opportunity to make the mistake shouldn't come up often. My reasons for townreading him aren't voluminous at all but after 10 games with somebody where I've scumread him by now in like 6 of them it seems he should be town by default

Why does knowing their identity make them less likely to be town though

Also, you've never townread me when I was scum?

[Dunnstral]

Like the Johnny kill was just optimal

You might portray it like it'd take a scum mastermind which i think is debatable but regardless it's still optimal play IMO

Leaving all the campers alive and making the dungeoneers look really sus (when they were already being sussed) and possibly getting back to back elims on the dungeoneers is huge. Not killing the campers is also huge because thats more paranoia suspects left alive making it harder to discern the scum inside there when we get to that point

Dunnstral demonstated he understood the ramifications of how the nightkills work pretty well. Isis is capable. Emily/Ydrasse im not familar with their mechanical ability. I might be capable -- you have to remember when you're scum you're more likely to look at every kill possibility and analyze them each, obviously as town thats not really at the front of your mind.

I somewhat believe Chrome not understanding the mechanics, and I certainly do srckz

A better way to go about this is to think about which combination of two players wouldn't do this (not something I know the answer to)

[Dunnstral]

it actually slightly harms town since it wastes the dungeon cycle from being used

We should figure out whether we're using the dungeon tonight or not

If we do I believe we can't go for cop but watcher can camp the training field

[Emily]

Why does everyone but me think srckz/Infinity is possible (っ>﹏<)っ !

maybe you're just wrong?

[Emily]

VOTE: Ydrasse

Got er

lol

[Emily]

Infinity would you mind laying out your thought process? Thanks <3

[Infinity 324]

Tweetie is convincing and unwnd's emotion feels as genuine as it's gonna get. I could be wrong but I feel like you are more likely scum atp.

[Emily]

you feel kind of fake sorry :<

[Infinity 324]

Ok I don't really care at this point