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Official Vote Count 2.07

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Emily -2 -

Morning Tweet, Infinity 324

srckz -1 -

Chromium

Ydrasse -1 -

Isis

Not Voting -4 -

Dunnstral, Emily, Ydrasse, srckz

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[Morning Tweet]

If we're planning to do something with the dungeon then the send Emily to die in the dungeon plan is slightly worse since it wastes doing anything with night actions that night -- although idk if we were already planning on not using the dungeon that night

pedit: I don't know anything abt ur scum game other than it's good

The point im trying to make is i dont think Cakez could fake those series of posts if he has the knowledge of how the Johnny kill works (which Inf/srckz would know). I just think they're really genuine sounding. I thought you made posts like Cakez but i think i got confused with signatures

[Emily]

Here's some background information people for people not familiar with the Guardians of the Fortress game that I'm talking about:


Lukewarm + Dunnstral + Unwnd were at the "Wall" location. A minigame where one person would be eliminated, out of the three of them, exactly one person is scum.

Lukewarm had gone into the minigame hard suspecting Dunnstral because of something Dunnstral had said earlier in the game but that Dunnstral refused to explain.

It was essentially how Dunnstral believed scum should optimally play mechanically versus a controlled Keep.

Dunnstral and Lukewarm had a talk about this after the scum had made their mech choices to go over what Dunnstral actually thought. It was a mech line of talk that was causing lukewarm/dunnstral to begin to trust each other, a disaster for Unwnd as he was the odd man out and he couldn't allow them to townread each other as it would lead to his elimination. So he barged in and shut down the discussion:





To me this was very similar to the way unwnd tried to snipe at Koba earlier in this game.

Unwnd in that game was also very effective at faking fustration to get townread. Very similarly to what he's faking in this game.

You know this because you played that game with him.

So how is it that you are townreading him on his geniune AtE when you literally just saw him do this as scum a few days ago?

[Emily]

If I were scum with her I would definitely never offer to get lost in a dungeon.

I would just get 2 mis-elims in a row and win.

You offering to get lost in a dungeon doesnt change anything though

It'd still be srckz mis elim -> nothing happening at night -> you elimed next day

well I know I'm town so I kind of know that's not what happens.

[Morning Tweet]

on the other i think it's an autoloss for infinity/srckz now if srckz goes through which is the vastly more likely outcome.

do you think there's any chance infinity lives if I get SC dead today and he flips red?

Now that Infinity has sided with srckz, no

Had Infinity continued her rather strong scumread on srckz, then maybe. That's my point

[srckz]

I'm not a one trick pony

[Emily]

I am offering this as a way to avoid double mis-elim into loss.

If I am alive on D3 it will be because I am scum and you can kill me then and have no worries.

[Emily]

I'm not a one trick pony

I didn't say you were

I'm saying its weird that Infinity is townreading your fustration AtE here when you literally did this as scum in a game a few days ago that she played in.

[Emily]

Now that Infinity has sided with srckz, no

Had Infinity continued her rather strong scumread on srckz, then maybe. That's my point

You think me flipping SC red will make me less convinced that my SC/Infinity solve is correct?

[Emily]

I would push for infinity to die if SC flipped red..

[Emily]

Infinity does not have a choice if she is scum here with SC

if they do not fight me off today I will kill them both if they are scum.

There is nowhere she can hide from me.

[Morning Tweet]

I can understand Emily's point that Infinity accepts my viewpoint on Emily rather quickly

Although i would consider that those span of posts are just a combination of everything i have already been saying. It's not like I started saying new things there, i just presented them in a compact way.

[Infinity 324]

So how is it that you are townreading him on his geniune AtE when you literally just saw him do this as scum a few days ago?

Again, it was a very different situation and I think unwnd was genuine there about having difficulty engaging with the mechanics but you can't be genuine as scum when you're frustrated about people misreading you.

If it's fake emotion whatever unwnd is too good

[Emily]

she claimed she was undecided today a few hours ago.

in my judgement she was going to vote me, she is the one who claimed she was undecided.

[Morning Tweet]

Now that Infinity has sided with srckz, no

Had Infinity continued her rather strong scumread on srckz, then maybe. That's my point

You think me flipping SC red will make me less convinced that my SC/Infinity solve is correct?

I'm not talking about your read, I'm talking about the likelihood of Infinity dying in general

Not everyone is convinced it has to be srckz/Infinity, there is also srckz/camp floating around. I believe Infinity going back on her srckz scumread would tip the scales to Infinity dying next if srckz were to flip red, however

[Emily]

If it's fake emotion whatever unwnd is too good

??

You literally saw him fake AtE his way to a scum win.

and you see him doing more AtE this game

and your response is, oh he's too good I have to townread him for it?

How is that a cogent line of thought!?

[Morning Tweet]

You finding it more likely that Infinity would go back on her srckz scumread in favour of joining me on you is somewhat odd as it seems like somewhat of a poor move to me. But, WIFOM, so whatev

[Emily]

I refuse to believe Infinity!Town upon seeing Unwnd!Scum waltz his way to a scum win with tons of AtE fustration sees Unwnd do the same type of Fustration AtE in this game and decides to townread him for it.

It's unbelievable to me sorry.

[srckz]

I think AtE is a stupid terminology just like how OMGUS eventually fell out of favor.

Do you know why it fell out of favor? Because mafia players became more complex in their arguments. They found more ways to convince others, and that makes the game harder. It also doesn't help that humans are innately complex and you're asking me to not have some emotional depth in my arguments. How are you supposed to resonate with people like that? You know why I have emotion in my posts as both alignment? Because that's my fucking charisma baby and when someone says 'omg AtE AtE AtE' they can't parse that maybe I'm just convincing you and you don't wanna believe it lol

[Emily]

I think AtE is a stupid terminology just like how OMGUS eventually fell out of favor.

Do you know why it fell out of favor? Because mafia players became more complex in their arguments. They found more ways to convince others, and that makes the game harder. It also doesn't help that humans are innately complex and you're asking me to not have some emotional depth in my arguments. How are you supposed to resonate with people like that? You know why I have emotion in my posts as both alignment? Because that's my fucking charisma baby and when someone says 'omg AtE AtE AtE' they can't parse that maybe I'm just convincing you and you don't wanna believe it lol

I don't even know what you're trying to tell me

[Infinity 324]

You literally saw him fake AtE his way to a scum win.

and you see him doing more AtE this game

and your response is, oh he's too good I have to townread him for it?

How is that a cogent line of thought!?

Imo it was genuine, I think I remember unwnd saying something to that effect, he can correct me if I'm wrong

[srckz]

You're saying it's AtE because you don't want to be convinced

I'm not sure whether you truly believe that

[Emily]

ok show me which lines are genuine enough for you to townlock him and walk me through why you townlock him

[Infinity 324]

If srckz is scum just lim me. This conversation is dumb

[Emily]

You're saying it's AtE because you don't want to be convinced

I'm not sure whether you truly believe that

no I'm saying AtE because it's AtE.