Mini Normal 2213 Mafia PT

[ItalianoVD]

What up my peeps. Let’s win this shall we, but first let’s get to know each other.

1. Do you like playing as scum. If yes, what’s the best part about? If not, why?
2. What are your strengths as scum?
3. What are your weaknesses as scum?
4. Have you played with anyone on the list? Who?
5. What timezone are you in?

[ItalianoVD]

It’s alright. I prefer playing as town exponentially, but when I roll red I make the best of it and play to my wincon. I just don’t particularly like lying and manipulating, but I don’t jeopardize my team because of it.

I’m a team player. I really want to get to know my team and be able to connect well so it’s easier to work as a team. Night kill planning and finding power roles. I also tend to not get scumread as scum. I always get scumread as town. Go figure.

Day Planning. I’m terrible at it. I generally don’t know what the best play is or the best thing to post. Like if I have to fakeclaim I have no clue what to claim since I’m also terrible at mechanics, or if I need to post something or do something that makes me seem like town, heck if I know what I’m doing.

Yes. I have played with Dunnstral, Noraa, Andresvmb, RLotus, and Gamma. I was scum with Gamma in Mini: 2193viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85805

[ItalianoVD]

Oh yeah I’m in the Pacific Time Zone in Cali

[ItalianoVD]

I'm in Pacific time zone I'm pretty sure . West coast of America. I enjoy the role, but it's been a while since iv played this game in general and think I honestly enjoy the mystery and confusion of town more but also enjoy a little lying and manipulation. I guess my main strength is I have little to no recent games to compare my play to. More advantage then strength. My weakness is people on this site often take me very negatively. I believe I have played with some of the playerlist lemme check

That’s good so at least we can plan our times to be on. Hopefully UC is close or at least in the US. Sounds good.

[ItalianoVD]

I think we should really pay special attention to how we interact. I think the more little meaningless interaction about personal whatever is going on. Also trying to not follow each other in wagons and not be tied to each other heavy. I'm probably gonna try to TR one of you and be less sure about another. That way even if they get me and another, they can't compare our interactions to the last of our team because I'll treat them different

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. We have to try our best to look town, but I don’t think we should just sit back and let the town dictate how things will go. So far nothing is happening and RVS will probably go on for another two pages or so maybe. Once things get real we gotta talk and see what we wanna do and how we wanna do it.

[ItalianoVD]

I am UC and in the U.S. we are yet to hear from Max.

Oh, that’s embarrassing Lol, my bad.

[ItalianoVD]

1. This is my first time playing forum mafia (though I did read threads here and play lots of chat mafia and TOS). I like being evil when my teammates are competent. If they are then yes I have fun because we together can trick and manipulate the town.

Okay good to know and happy to have you here. Welcome to the site and hopefully your time here will be as fun as your other experiences.

2. I can act like a townie decently well, at least in chat mafia. here it might be harder.

Okay that’s good as well. And yeah from what I’ve heard the transition is different, but I know players who have come from chat mafia who do and have done very well when switching over to forum mafia. Any questions you have ask it here. We’ll definitely help you.

3. I can panic when I get pushed or several partners die.

Can you elaborate on this. How do you panic? Do you spew? Do you use appeal to emotion? Etc.

4. No.

No worries we’ll help you with that. At least with the ones we have insight on.

5. KRAT.

Oh okay so you’re about 14hrs ahead of me and UC. What time are you usually able to get on (your time)?

[ItalianoVD]

My early candidate for nightkill is Lukewarm. I’m sure it’ll change by deadline, but that’s what I see so far. It could actually be a nice way to get Johnny a little bit of heat.

ssbm is my early frame for scum. If I was town his tone would ping my radar. I can’t really push him hard though cause he’s already voting for me. Just saying it genuinely looks sus.

UC do you think you can buddy up with him at all? If not maybe we can show Max how to.

[ItalianoVD]

Nah that’s cool. And why is that? Lol

[ItalianoVD]

The early game jokes would be a big part of it.

Aight that’s fair. Me joking and gif posting is really nai. I do it as both alignments.

[ItalianoVD]

The early game jokes would be a big part of it. A lot for the same reasons I think there's a wagon on you rn. I think I may express no read for you just yet and make a town read on a townie and scum read another

Sounds good.

[ItalianoVD]

It would be very good that no matter what happens you survive the day. I figure we wouldn't have an informative role if it wasn't gonna be important.

True. I will try my best to look more like town and towntell or whatever it’s called even though I still don't know how.

[ItalianoVD]

Now ssb is calling you out on your read on me. Like you said don’t scumread me because everyone’s gonna say why aren’t you voting there then.

You can have me at null with a slight town lean and point to my post geared towards Dunnstral and say something like “I don’t think scum would post something so stupidly obvious” and obviously throw in but I will definitely keep an eye on him.

[ItalianoVD]

Or you can do whatever you want that does the same thing. Just a suggestion.

[ItalianoVD]

Dunnstral, ssbm, and VFP are getting a little bit of heat. We should be able to make these happen, especially Dunnstral as the people who have played with him, myself included, know he lurks as scum.

[ItalianoVD]

Lol I’m trying to keep up with Noraa and be close to her post count, but I ain’t got that much stuff to say.

[ItalianoVD]

Does max exist at all? Sorry for being inactive myself IV been dealing with moving

You’re good bro. Hope everything went smooth, I know how moving can be.

[ItalianoVD]

Yeah if Max is a true newbie we’ll have to help her along, but she has to post in here so we can.

[ItalianoVD]

@Samantha: can we submit the night actions for each other or do we have to personally submit them.

[ItalianoVD]

The more this day goes on the more it makes sense for Lukewarm to be the night kill. It’s close to being locked for me.

[ItalianoVD]

UC what are your thoughts up to this point on everything?

Max oh max where art thou? Please grace us with your presence again. This won’t work otherwise.

[ItalianoVD]

Aight cool. It may come down to that unfortunately. Still time though, but we’ll see.

[ItalianoVD]

I'm honestly in physical and mental pain considering leaving my games but that seems really just wrong to do yk. In 4 days I'll be done with school all together and hopefully my work loads will be easier, or just have a more set schedule.

Oh dang bro that’s not good. I think it’d be better to take care of yourself than to try to force it. I’m not telling you to replace out cause that’s against the rules, but it’s also important to be smart and if things are taking a toll on you, the last thing you need is the stress of this game. Think about it. I’ll back whatever you decide to do.

[ItalianoVD]

We're gonna make sure Kyouko stays alive as long as possible.

If you guys can make it on let me know what you think.

I'll use my N1 Action
Max can

follow

Kyouko
UC can

kill

Lukewarm

If Kyouko is a vig then I'm dead anyway lol. At least you'd know who to kill next.

Also, Sam? Can a pr see my night one action if they track me. I'm not actually doing anything but would anything show up in their results?

[ItalianoVD]

Just so you know, whoever it is I'm talking to, ...this is genuine...

It's also not that he's asking for a case, it's that he's feigning ignorance as he does so.

I am asking because I don't remember you actually making a case. You said you didn't like any of the VFP voters and voted for me and have locked in so that everything I do or post you find scum motivation behind it. At this point I'm done responding to you. And please stop making stupid assumptions. You don't understand how annoyed that makes me. I'm being calm but it takes me to the nth degree.

I don't care what alignment I am or the person is don't assume you know what I'm thinking or why I did something. Ask me upfront and let me answer. If you still scumread it that's fine by me but assuming I'm scum for nothing other than throwing crap against the wall; that makes me wanna blow you up...respectfully.

[ItalianoVD]

Nevermind.

N1 Activated Informed -

This ability does not target a player

, simply tell the moderator that you wish to use it. This ability can only be used Night One. The moderator will send you a private message that will include information about the setup.

[ItalianoVD]

Okay Sam until my peeps come back and we can discuss it if we discuss it.

Italiano

uses

N1 Activate Informed
Max

follows

ssbm_kyouko
UC Voyager

kills

Lukewarm

[ItalianoVD]

Sam can you pm Max and tell her to come talk to her teammates.

[ItalianoVD]

I thought about that myself but thought it'd be crossing the line into interference, and that end of day is soon anyway (along with a reminder). I'm consulting a list mod about it though.

Ahh. You know I never even thought about that. It makes sense.

[ItalianoVD]

okay I'm gonna message them just this once, because they are new to forum mafia and probably forgot about it

Cool. A one time courtesy. Thanks.

[ItalianoVD]

Good to know. What are your thoughts on the game up to this point? Do you have gel for it or are you still trying to get your footing? Anyone you feel like pushing?

[ItalianoVD]

What?!! Gel?!! Ughh Stupid autocorrect, lol. I was asking if you have a feel for the game yet.

[ItalianoVD]

Sorry I forgot about mafia chat.

No worries. It's a transition.

[ItalianoVD]

I start playing either very paranoid and defensive, or aggressive and almost suicidal. Not always voluntary.

Okay well now that we know that, if it does happen you know to stay calm and cool and to address the accusations as such and try to poke holes in them without getting too crazy.

[ItalianoVD]

Yeah no need to do that. Let someone else do it.

[ItalianoVD]

I don't think I should hammer RLotus. Hammering someone so early without a very good reason is suspicious, right? I don't want to blow myself up like that...

Yeah this is frowned upon on this site very much. Personally I don’t have a problem with it because it usually works itself out, but people are very execution happy on those that quickhammer.

[ItalianoVD]

I'll wait for a few more pages and then push on him.

I read your post about Lotus and there’s no need to push him as that would look weird for you to do. VFP is planning on hammering so let’s hope he doesn’t renege on that promise.

[ItalianoVD]

Dude what are doing?

[ItalianoVD]

What the heck is my team doing?!!

[ItalianoVD]

This is an alt so I can play slightly trollishly.

That’s fine but can you not jeopardize us in the process?! And who are you? Do we know each other?

[ItalianoVD]

I'll wait for a few more pages and then push on him.

I read your post about Lotus and there’s no need to push him as that would look weird for you to do. VFP is planning on hammering so let’s hope he doesn’t renege on that promise.

Max, I really wish you’d read this thread before posting in the real thread because your switch on Lotus was extremely scummy and people are gonna pick up on it and it puts me in a compromising position to looo scummy by defending you.

Same with you Tea, that hammer is gonna get scrutinized like crazy and you may just be the Day 2 execution. Unless of course someone scums it up. Let’s hope so, otherwise we wont have a choice but to be on that wagon. I gotta step away from it for a while. I’ll be back before deadline to solidify our night picks.

[ItalianoVD]

I read your post, I didn't really "push" him. I thought it would be scummier if I kept TRing him against the entire town. Wouldn't it be normal town behavior to ask a non-claimer at E-1 to claim?

Aight so nothing has changed for me and I think killing Lukewarm is still the best kill. I don’t think ssbm or VFP are good kills. Killing either of them would point to us and we don’t need that. He’s like 100% for me. If it wasn’t him I could settle on Save the Dragons or Dunnstral.

Who do guys think would be a good target for Max to follow? I think ssbm_kyouko is a good target. We could probably go for Andres or Gamma as well.

[ItalianoVD]

I read your post, I didn't really "push" him. I thought it would be scummier if I kept TRing him against the entire town. Wouldn't it be normal town behavior to ask a non-claimer at E-1 to claim?

Aight no worries. I was a bit annoyed by tea’s entrance and when he started voting for me so when I saw you come in and flip on Lotus I was like “what in the world are we doing?!” but I’m good now.

[ItalianoVD]

Didn’t mean to quote that in #69

[ItalianoVD]

Sure. I think noraa might be the obvious ill.

I think it would be better to keep Noraa alive as long as possible so the town can execute her. Everyone thinks she’s town now but the longer she stays alive more people will start to question. A couple of people already think she could be scum.

What do you think of Lukewarm, Save the Dragons, or Dunnstral?

[ItalianoVD]

At this point I think something weak like masons are the last pr.

You think so? I’m not good with mechanics at all. What do you think is balanced for a strongman, informed, and follower?

[ItalianoVD]

Who do guys think would be a good target for Max to follow? I think ssbm_kyouko is a good target. We could probably go for Andres or Gamma as well.

I’d probably go for Andres or Gamma over ssbm after thinking about it. Both of them weren’t as active as ssbm has been. Not saying it’s impossible but I think it’s more likely for prs to be a little less active. Ssbm was the third highest poster. I don’t know just something to think about, unless you guys think differently.

[ItalianoVD]

Okay Sam if I’m not able to get on before the deadline consider this our submission

Italiano

activates

informed N1
Max

follows

Gamma
Tea

kills

Lukewarm

[ItalianoVD]

Follower result:

Gamma Emerald did nothing.

Informed result:

Gamma Emerald is a Cop Enabler Follower Enabler

Okay nice. So Gamma needs to stay alive until Max finds someone yes? Or should he die next?

[ItalianoVD]

List of potential follows???
[*]Andres
[*]Save the Dragons
[*]VFP

List of potential kills???
[*]Dunnstral
[*]Andres
[*]Save the Dragons

[ItalianoVD]

Just doing some distancing, I don't intend to keep the vote.

Same.

[ItalianoVD]

I'll say I was informed gamma is a cop enabler and that somone is a follower.

I don’t know, like I said I’m terrible at mechanics and dayplay. We have to prepare for if we get stuck on you for the day. Maybe Max can join another wagon, but lol, as much as I made over your hammer, unless something is just way over the top scummy or someone makes a town case for you, my vote is gonna have to hover between you and Johnny. Possibly Gamma and/or ssbm as well. So actually I guess we’ll just have to see how the day goes.

[ItalianoVD]

I think I'm sinking.

The only thing I can say is just try to interact more with mor slots. Don’t respond or ask about everything, just things you feel would be important for you to sort the other slots. I’d say make it less about you (why do you scumread me, what have I done, etc) and get more involved in what’s happening as a whole: like the nightkill, free tea’s current Day 2 play. Ask me why I scumread Johnny or what made me so sure about RLotus. I think if you do that you’ll be fine.

[ItalianoVD]

BTW, who do you guys think could be potential power roles?

[ItalianoVD]

I think I'm sinking.

The only thing I can say is just try to interact more with mor slots. Don’t respond or ask about everything, just things you feel would be important for you to sort the other slots. I’d say make it less about you (why do you scumread me, what have I done, etc) and get more involved in what’s happening as a whole: like the nightkill, free tea’s current Day 2 play. Ask me why I scumread Johnny or what made me so sure about RLotus. I think if you do that you’ll be fine.

Oh yeah, I should also say not to make it so obvious that you’re changing how you’re playing since that’s what they caught me on.

[ItalianoVD]

Not really sure what I’m doing today. I just feel like I’m... meh. Maybe I should leave for a while and then come back. I can’t really think right now.

You guys have any thoughts on today? What to do? Who stands out? Etc? I’ll be back later.

[ItalianoVD]

It’s unfortunate that we are losing a soldier, but I’m hoping we can salvage. I’ll have to strongman Dunnstral and you can follow who you think is best Max. Noraa? Andres? Whoever?

This should get Gamma executed tomorrow. Hopefully. And I would say only claim if you have to. Tomorrow looks to be you and Gamma.

When Free flips goon, it’s gonna throw everyone for a loop and they’ll know he was just getting information from his partners. Him conn3cting himself with me is not good, but hopefully when he flips scum they won’t connect me to him.

[ItalianoVD]

RIP Free.

[ItalianoVD]

Also Sam, the final votecount is incorrect. I was the hammer on free.

[ItalianoVD]

Also Sam, the final votecount is incorrect. I was the hammer on free.

I just rechecked and came up with the same result

if I mistakenly put someone on the wagon let me know who they are though

Ahh forgot, it was 6 votes not 7. Well we’ll have to see how the town views that, especially since Noraa did the same thing I did.

[ItalianoVD]

Dang it man. That didn’t actually have to happen. A hammer like that is gonna get you looked at by pr (cop) 99% of the time. (I’m talking about free money)

Well it only makes sense to make sure Dunnstral doesn’t live and Gamma gets more heat then we do. Thing is I think we were gonna go for Dunnstral regardless, now it forces our hand to do so, since he will probably check me next given Free’s connection to me.

Italiano

stongmans

Dunnstral
Max

follows

Save the Dragons??

Who else is considered kinda quiet?? Maybe VFP? I don’t think Andres is VT.

[ItalianoVD]

I’m hoping that Gamma gets the execution for Day 3. (Fingers crossed) and then maybe we would have been able to clear Max in someway. With the cop(s) dead we wouldnt need to worry about getting checked in that way. After things happen of course we’ll just be regular goons at that point.

If town has its own tracker or follower and they think to track/follow me, hopefully it’s not of the “know the action” variety and just “they targeted that player” variety. I guess we will see.

[ItalianoVD]

Sounds good

[ItalianoVD]

Makes sense, you can probably even do rolestopper. How much sense would it make for you to say you protected Dunnstral? Have no idea if that helps us or hurts us.

[ItalianoVD]

Who do you think would be best to follow Max?

[ItalianoVD]

Yup, no worries. Doesn’t seem like anyone protected him anyway or if they did they don’t want to say anything and out themselves. It’s actually a problem I’m getting townread because eventually people will start thinking why I’m not getting night killed.

Not sure how to scum it up a bit at this point. Or even if it’s necessary.

[ItalianoVD]

It’s actually a problem I’m getting townread because eventually people will start thinking why I’m not getting night killed.

Not sure how to scum it up a bit at this point. Or even if it’s necessary.

This is always the hardest point for me as scum because it actually doesn’t make sense for me to still be alive at this point. From what I can remember I do usually make it to lylo because I usually do the scum’s job for them.

There is just enough suspicion on Andres, Gamma, VFP, Johnny and possibly Kyouko.

Noraa and Save the Dragons are pretty universally townread at this point. I have some suspicion with Gamma and Kyouko that may play to my benefit. Johnny, Noraa, and Andres townread me. I don’t know if Noraa would pick Johnny in lylo over say max, but maybe she would for Andres.

Max for you I think only VFP and Noraa really are on you. The rest of them kinda have you in the PoE but not really pushing there. If it came down to it they’d vote you, but the slots of Gamma, VFP, and maybe Kyouko can all be partners with Free Money. I don’t think your death is a forgone conclusion.

My biggest concern is what I’m gonna say if I don’t get night killed in the next two nights. Especially if VFP gets killed over Gamma.

[ItalianoVD]

Dang it. Me not dying in the night is gonna be sooo obvious.

[ItalianoVD]

So right now we’re at 6:2.

Our kill will put us at 5:2.

We kinda need Andres to stay alive so it could be hectic between him, Noraa, Johnny, and myself. If we kill Andres that will turn Gamma and maybe even kyouko our way, at least my way.

Imo the best kill would be Save the Dragons, this way it will keep all the heat players alive, I don’t know.

[ItalianoVD]

B

ut you know...

O

ther than VFP, I am still working out my scumreads.

D

ragons is kinda scummy to me.

Y

et his low activity prevents me from being very accurate, even for a newbie.

G

uess that might be a scumtell in and of itself.

U

nless it's just a lurking townie.

Breadcrumb. It spells out BODYGU, which obviously means "bodyguard".

Unfortunately I don’t think anyone is gonna believe you crumbing on Day 3. Crumbs are usually on Day 1 within the first couple of pages in your first couple of posts. I don’t think you need to claim, buut there is a possibility they could do a massclaim.

In any event, I think rolestopper would be better since you don’t die if your target is killed, unlike the bodyguard.

[ItalianoVD]

You think killing Noraa would make sense? It could potentially point to you??

[ItalianoVD]

Okay, no problem.

Aight Sam...

Max

follows

Andres
Italiano

kills

Noraa

[ItalianoVD]

Now remember claiming will place you on the target list for nightkill.

[ItalianoVD]

If you claim a town pr and don’t die, they’ll just kill you the next day.

[ItalianoVD]

I still don’t think you should claim unless prompted or if they decide to do massclaim.

[ItalianoVD]

These are the moments I hate playing scum.

[ItalianoVD]

Max if we make it through the day without us dying we will make it to lylo. We will be at a 3:2 ratio and will only need someone to vote. Chances are they won’t since that’s completely anti-town in lylo but you never know. These things are unpredictable.

Anyway if you can again let me know what time that you’ll be able to be on at least for an hour or longer. I can usually get on at anytime so I’m flexible, but I’d need to know when you can be on so I can coordinate around your schedule since you are 14 hours ahead of me.

There are ebbs and flow to this thing as you already know and I’m really ready for the game to be over.

[ItalianoVD]

If the execution for today is Gamma then we have options on who to kill.

You’ve expressed some scum interest in Save the Dragons so keeping him alive for another day is probably good. Save the Dragons and Andres have been the most lurky so probably the best kill would be between ssbm and Johnny. What do you think?

[ItalianoVD]

I agree that ssbm is the best kill. If so lylo will be:

Max
Italiano
Save the Dragons
Andres
Johnny

Things could be setup for Johnny and Andres given their lack of presence in the game. Maybe, but who knows. I never trust a gamestate.

[ItalianoVD]

We just need to make sure Gamma is today’s elimination.

[ItalianoVD]

Okay I was thinking some more and we need to make sure Gamma is eliminated. We still have your vote and we would have to persuade Andres to vote Gamma. Then we will kill kyouko.

I don’t think you should vote for Gamma until Andres comes back. Voting for him now could possibly get the heat turned your way and we don’t want or need that. You probably chill in the background. Andres will come back and him and Gamma will go at it a while and that’s when you will vote Gamma. Hopefully at that point Andres would be heated enough to just hammer Gamma.

If successful with Gamma then we go for Andres in lylo.

If unsuccessful with Gamma then we go for Gamma in lylo.

[ItalianoVD]

BTW, I’ve recorded your times you said you were available and that’ll work. I believe that’s like 8pm the previous night my time. I can be on for like 4 hours. We’ll have to make sure we keep this thread open so we know the exact time to coordinate should someone quickly vote. I will check in with you here and make sure you are active. Once I check in just immediately go vote for whoever the town voted for and then immediately after I’ll join you and game over.

So my check in to this thread will be your cue to go vote, no questions ask.

My code phrase will be

“okay here we go”

. When you see that just go into the game and immediately vote whoever it is.

[ItalianoVD]

Also I was gonna come into lylo (if we are successful with Gamma) and say “no one vote, this is lylo and scum can quickhammer”. I was gonna do it for towncred, but that will actually hurt us and I probably have enough towncred. We need town to vote quickly so I’ll be scratching that thought.

[ItalianoVD]

I don't want to be the one hamering Gamma, I have enough attention on me already.

Yeah I know. Andres would be the one hammering not you. You would ultimately be the 3rd vote because Johnny or ssbm are not gonna vote him, but Andres probably will especially since he called him out.

[ItalianoVD]

Whew, well that was close.

[ItalianoVD]

I don’t trust ssbm and I think he might have been trying to see people’s reaction with that fake guilty. He may actually have one on one of us and is trying to play a mind game.

[ItalianoVD]

I just don’t see a vanilla townie doing that when the town is this close to possibly losing and if he actually is a pr it doesn’t make sense since we followed Andres and he did nothing.

So this makes me think he is playing games and perhaps actually has a real guilty on one of us. Probably me most likely. We’ll see how it plays out though. Being scum sucks soooo bad.

[ItalianoVD]

Well that went well.

[ItalianoVD]

So we’re at

Gamma
Andres
Johnny
Save the Dragons
Max
Italiano

I say we kill Johnny. No one’s gonna believe he’s scum.

[ItalianoVD]

Day 5 will start in about 31 hours.

31 hours for me will be around 8:30pm 06/11/2021.
31 hours for you will be 5:30pm 06/13/2021, I think.

When the day starts we will have to be on together for the majority of the day.

[ItalianoVD]

Yup

[ItalianoVD]

No Sam.

[ItalianoVD]

No Sam.

Sorry meant to say np Sam. (Autocorrect )

[ItalianoVD]

I guess you should follow me just to use your ability.

[ItalianoVD]

Actually just in case there is a tracking pr still out there and seeing as I hammered and that seems to be the trigger, I’m not going to use my ability tonight Sam.

Max

kills

Johnny

[ItalianoVD]

Great!

[ItalianoVD]

Man can you say or do that will get people off of you and onto say Save the dragons? Or Gamma? Don’t think anything. And I don’t really know what to say or do that will get the heat off of you and onto Save the Dragons or Gamma.

[ItalianoVD]

Not going after you will be suspicious now, but also going after you will get me killed in the final. Ugh. Maybe I’ll think of something or maybe you will I don’t know. It’s so close and we can and should still win we just gotta be smart.

[ItalianoVD]

Hey Max are you here?

[ItalianoVD]

So we're in a tough spot right now and I don't see us winning today. We can possibly still win with a sacrifice. Unfortunately you have more suspicion then I do, so it's gonna look bad for you since you have more.

I am getting some pings from everyone but not enough for them to actually wanna vote there.

There is no way we can win today at least I don't see it. Andres is pretty locked in on you. He won't see Save the Dragons or Gamma or even me over you. It's a pretty forgone conclusion that that's where he is going today.

Gamma will probably end up on you and so will Save the dragons.

[ItalianoVD]

I hope you respond to this quickly because I'm gonna have to make a move very soon. Otherwise we might as well concede because I literally don't know of another way to turn the tide against anyone else.

[ItalianoVD]

Cool. Can you read what I wrote and give me your thoughts?

[ItalianoVD]

I'm tripping because like I said dayplay is my weakness so I'm not sure what needs to be said to swing it in our favor.

[ItalianoVD]

I tried to make a play right now. My job is done, I hope one of them bites and then you quickhammer. Okay?

Aight let's see.

[ItalianoVD]

I wonder why are we so close to losing despite town's best biggest PR getting himself lynched day 1 and then a VT gamethrowing.

Yeah I don't know. I put a lot of faith in town. Maybe more than I should but I do.

[ItalianoVD]

Honestly, I liked this game regardless. I'll stay on the site no matter the result.

Ha ha that's good. Yeah this game was good and don't mind me, maybe I'm just overreacting. I forget that they are uninformed.

[ItalianoVD]

I'm gonna stay on all night and hopefully someone votes for Gamma. I really hope they do.

[ItalianoVD]

Let’s see where this goes first. Last ditch effort to get Save the Dragons to vote for Gamma. He’s iffy right now so I’m hoping that the little doubt I put in there will get him to just vote for Gamma.

He already said he’s paranoid of Gamma/Andres so let’s see what happens there. It’ll probably make me suspicious not voting for you, but if I don’t have to vote for my partner I try not to.

At the end of the day it’s all in Save the Dragons hands right now.

[ItalianoVD]

I have an idea for a play to give you cred.

I will pretend to have a fit and hammer myself and say "FUCK YOU TOWN! YOU DESERVE TO LOSE! I WAS TOWN! GOOD FUCKING GAME!" and then you say something to the effect of "Oh well I was town". Or would that be too obvious? Or would it break some rule?

If you hammer yourself game is over, your vote counts so it would be 3 votes.