Open 811 - Lovers and Losers (New Game+) [Game Over]

[yessiree]

VC 2.10

With 8 votes, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Bambi Jay (3)

- LlamaFluff, RationalMadman, Bambi Jay

LlamaFluff (1)

- Anastasia

Note voting - T-Bone, Kerset, Bingle, VFP

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-02 16:00:00)

[Bingle]

I'm around.

[Bingle]

now please unvote as I actually lean TBone pair as scum atm.

[VFP]

Well I'm here, but it doesn't say much unless T-Bone posts.

[LlamaFluff]

Actually I know a way to fuck over Ration if they're teamed with Llama. I just gotta prove the other 2 aren't his partners.

VOTE: Bambi

Team Bingle/Kerset and team Tbone/VFP, just confirm you guys are on at the same time to show you didn't quick hammer me and therefore aren't partners with Llama.

I'm off to work so I'll unvote myself tomorrow if we're still playing and my gamble pays off.

Now *this* is scum. Its creative sure, but nonsensical as town outside of very few highly specific scenarios that dont apply here. Interesting hail mary play though.

[VFP]

You should be in full support for this, Llama.

[LlamaFluff]

I am. Just pointing out that if he isnt putting himself at -1 its just theater to try and look town. Not even like if town did this it could actually tell anything.

[VFP]

Well actually, Bambi town with your lim just means RM and Ana have to be scum.
So it does tell something if town and if you're the lim.

In fact, town Bambi only has to get 1 confirmed town out of Kersel / Bingle and me / T-Bone to 100% win the game if you are the lim today.

[Bambi Jay]

It's not theatre if it proves you can only be partners with Ration and Ana. Which is my point because I can't do it otherwise since my other plans to confirm town have been shot down.

Honestly the fact Ration didn't unvote so scum couldn't quick hammer is another point for them being evil.

[LlamaFluff]

Well actually, Bambi town with your lim just means RM and Ana have to be scum.
So it does tell something if town and if you're the lim.

In fact, town Bambi only has to get 1 confirmed town out of Kersel / Bingle and me / T-Bone to 100% win the game if you are the lim today.

They are at -2... it means nothing at all at this point. If they put themselves at -1 it would prove that its me with Ana/RM or Bambi with anyone else. Its pretty clear this means nothing as it stands. The closest it can mean is that I cant be scum with TBone/VFP or Bingle/Kerset if this stands for some time. So I guess thanks for not thinking it through and clearing me?

[Bambi Jay]

Well actually, Bambi town with your lim just means RM and Ana have to be scum.
So it does tell something if town and if you're the lim.

In fact, town Bambi only has to get 1 confirmed town out of Kersel / Bingle and me / T-Bone to 100% win the game if you are the lim today.

Literally what I'm doing now if you guys don't hammer means you aren't scum with Llama or you guys would hammer me already. If you wanna argue ultimate bait or I'm scum with one of you two I still can't argue, but all I gotta do is prove the only viable team is Llama/Ana/Ration.

With Ana probably voting me when she gets back literally only one of you has to vote me to elim me. But if your all town (which I've been arguing now) I'll survive by tommorow, we get Llama up and then his partners day 3.

This game either ends with my death for town loss or their deaths for town victory. So no point being cautious at this point. We got like 3 days left so let's speed it along.

[VFP]

You're argument was Bambi town there is nothing told.
Not that this doesn't tell you anything.

But yes, it means you scum is with Ana/RM and Bambi scum is within anyone.
There's a lot to be told. You seem more worried about getting clears here though and town you should favour us getting any additional information here.

[LlamaFluff]

That was a mistake. That was a serious mistake.

If this sticks around from an impartial perspective the team can only me

Me+Ana/Rm
Bambi+Ana/RM
Bambi+Kerset/Bingle
Bambi+VFP/TBone

There is zero chance that town-Bambi decides to dance around who to go after between two lover pairs, only to sheep someone D1 who tries to snap wagon the third pair at the last minute, and then listen to that same person when they want to move it onto a VT claim, while at the same time half blaming another lover pair for not moving the wagon back to RM/Ana.

This is scum who just tried to get cute. In what spot does town actually get desperate enough to pull this move off? If anything this is what scum does when they think they are dead and need to make something happen.

[VFP]

That was a mistake. That was a serious mistake.

If this sticks around from an impartial perspective the team can only me

Me+Ana/Rm
Bambi+Ana/RM
Bambi+Kerset/Bingle
Bambi+VFP/TBone

There is zero chance that town-Bambi decides to dance around who to go after between two lover pairs, only to sheep someone D1 who tries to snap wagon the third pair at the last minute, and then listen to that same person when they want to move it onto a VT claim, while at the same time half blaming another lover pair for not moving the wagon back to RM/Ana.

This is scum who just tried to get cute. In what spot does town actually get desperate enough to pull this move off? If anything this is what scum does when they think they are dead and need to make something happen.

Maybe. Just be glad town are getting some sort of information I guess.

[VFP]

If anything Llama, this should benefit you.
You basically have a 25% chance as scum after this.

[LlamaFluff]

The insane part here is that no one should ever be voting me here. They should be voting Ana/RM because its nearing the point where its physically impossible if Bambi is town for me to be scum without them *first* being scum. And they can be scum with either of us.

Not sure if Bambi just didnt talk this through with the lover pair, they all missed this or what... but its over. If you are going to screw up theory against me you have no chance.

[VFP]

We lost the chance to lim a pair when we swapped to VTs day 1.
I said this enough.

[Bambi Jay]

We are literally in endgame. If I die the game ends Llama. I mean sure that's your victory but let's both be frank I'm not doing this for any reason besides to give information to the town. You ain't doing crap.

My only mistake I made this game was following ya onto Smart instead of sticking with Ration and Ana when we had the chance.

[VFP]

Inbefore Kerstel and Bingle hammering!

[Bambi Jay]

The insane part here is that no one should ever be voting me here. They should be voting Ana/RM because its nearing the point where its physically impossible if Bambi is town for me to be scum without them *first* being scum. And they can be scum with either of us.

You say as you don't vote either of them and helped saved them yesterday.

If you were town you'd follow your own logic bro.

[Kerset]

If bone comes in and instahammers then i will put all the blame on you bambi for not letting us solve. Neither me or bingle declared the definite scum yet.

[LlamaFluff]

We lost the chance to lim a pair when we swapped to VTs day 1.
I said this enough.

Nope. There literally is zero chance of me being scum without Ana/RM being scum with what Bambi decided to pull here, even moreso if it stays like this long enough to clear me as town with anyone but Ana/RM.

There is a chance of me being town with Ana/RM as scum.

If you think I am scum, the right vote is now Ana/RM who is confirmed scum in your eyes, even if you are wrong about me it gives us a chance with a lot more information.

Where does that logic fall apart?

The insane part here is that no one should ever be voting me here. They should be voting Ana/RM because its nearing the point where its physically impossible if Bambi is town for me to be scum without them *first* being scum. And they can be scum with either of us.

You say as you don't vote either of them and helped saved them yesterday.

If you were town you'd follow your own logic bro.

Right right right....

As scum I realized my partners were being pushed to the wayside so decided to push for an extended deadline so I could attack them... once they started getting votes instead of pushing the bus all the way I decided to move to attacking SS instead where I would be pushed into a 50/50 the following day instead of riding it out, SS dying almost instantly and needing to convince only one out of all remaining town that you were scum to force the game to a tie.

[LlamaFluff]

Everyone posting is even more obvious that I am town unless with RM/Ana now too. What world is scum talking in the main topic? Scum is going to the PT saying "I will be around X time, what about you?"

Creative attempt, bad result. If you actually clammed up I think scum could have won here.

[VFP]

Llama is reacting badly here for someone who 'knows' Bambi is scum.

[Bambi Jay]

Which is your plan your doing now? I mean... Whatever works.