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humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 3:29 am

I'm not seeing Jake as state-sponsored-execution-baity at all. That's a label reserved for people with opaque processes, lurky, or wagon-jumpy (like what you would expect Sigmund to be if he's town, but I'll make the case that he isn't). The Jake I'm seeing here is town-leady "obvtowny", and I'm sure that's what he's trying to emulate, but I don't think "MAKE A CASE THAT YOU'RE TOWN!" is an actual play that you'll pull if you're genuinely trying to sort between slots. It's bogus as hell.

Messy Anne · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 3:36 am

In post 523, Messy Anne wrote:VOTE: T3
Jake works too but I feel better about dead!T3

Quickexpln
Votes monke because single phrase felt off
Unvotes monke because monke (T3's top scumread at the time) explained why his wagon was bad
Doesn't vote anyone else

This is a weak reason to scumread someone, and it was T3's top suspect. T3 feels like they are not game solving. T3 also feels more inclined to explain their own actions rather than to question others.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 3:38 am

Like seriously consider the POV he's presenting here:

Hi, I'm Jake The Wolfie. I townlean HEM because of his Sigmund push and I agree with him! Oh, what's this? Sigmund is trying to counterwagon him? Sigmund, a guy that I'm scumreading and whose scumminess I agree with? Better join his wagon, I guess! Hey, Monkey! Make a case why you're town! Make content! I won't answer your reasonable questions of why I'm voting you, because I'm not the one at L-1 here. Oh, what's that? You think I'm scummy for voting you? Well, by trying to engage me here, you're scum. I'm sorry if you're town, but I'm content with my vote.

Jake will say I'm misrepresenting here. I won't. This is exactly what happened during that period. He claims this is a valid method to sort me.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 3:40 am

In post 527, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I won't.

EBWOP: I'm not.

Sigmund · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 4:00 am

VOTE: T3

can we just kill somebody already I am bored out of my mind

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:05 am

UNVOTE:

Holy hell, Sleep does wonders to you, you guys should try it sometime.

I am unsure what to think now, I might hop on the T3 wagon later after a quick ISO/Metadive when I get my laptop out.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:07 am

In post 530, Jake The Wolfie wrote:UNVOTE:

Holy hell, Sleep does wonders to you, you guys should try it sometime.

I am unsure what to think now, I might hop on the T3 wagon later after a quick ISO/Metadive when I get my laptop out.

Why? I thought I'm scum? How did you figure I'm town?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 am

In post 531, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 530, Jake The Wolfie wrote:UNVOTE:

Holy hell, Sleep does wonders to you, you guys should try it sometime.

I am unsure what to think now, I might hop on the T3 wagon later after a quick ISO/Metadive when I get my laptop out.
Why? I thought I'm scum? How did you figure I'm town?

I didn't. I'm unsure what to think about you.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:10 am

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:13 am

Yeah it is paper-thin. I'm still trying to workshop my read of you.
Do you want me to answer those questions when I initially voted you?

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:16 am

Alright, I'm on my laptop.

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:25 am

Sidenote, I found this lovely quote:

In post 100, WhemeStar wrote:T3 May I suggest finding an avatar to use? A lot of people on this site use avatars to know who they are talking to ( or at least I do) so having an avatar helps putting a face to the name

Sigmund · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 5:46 am

holy fuck this game is just full of people I want to murder-rate but none of them will die

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:04 am

Did I or did I not say T3 isn't happening

Jake The Wolfie · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:09 am

Just from looking at a D1 metaread on T3, they are in their town meta with short, fluffy posts.

Will have to look for more datapoints, though.

T3 appears to not have many mafia games.

Messy Anne · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:24 am

In post 538, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Did I or did I not say T3 isn't happening

You kinda did, in your experience with T3 is this consistent with town play?

Rae · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:03 am

monkey is this overarching style of play just ur thing or what. i can't gather why you feel so jam so many words into ur fucking posts. i thought it was scummy before and i think it's scummy now.

NotAHecticAlt · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:45 am

In post 541, Rae wrote:monkey is this overarching style of play just ur thing or what. i can't gather why you feel so jam so many words into ur fucking posts. i thought it was scummy before and i think it's scummy now.

Why is it scummy?

NotAHecticAlt · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:47 am

In post 524, Messy Anne wrote:
In post 504, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Rae is weird for voting me because I didn't think that was a good reason, but I'm not sure if it's a made-up reason. Messy Anne feels like they were trying to put their vote on something productive, but I have no idea what's on their head.
Accurate! Messy Anne wants to help and do good, but is bad at game and doesn't have a lot of time. Johnny and Sigmund felt good at the time so I sheeped.

Can people go into their Johnny read? People seem to be scum reading him but he feels the most town to me other than Sigmund. Maybe tied with Anya

If anybody (Jake) thinks my sigmund read is off base I'll give it a second look later but I'm pretty sure of this one still

I don't think Johnny has done/said anything that is close to the edges of his scumrange yet. We're still well within it and thats reason for concern for me

NotAHecticAlt · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:48 am

In post 511, Anya wrote:Jake feels like the kind of player who would post a lot less and with fewer words as wolf be more cagey

In post 514, Anya wrote:idk he feels injectionbaity and those kind of players usually are

So what about my points against them? Do you have any comment on that? Because this is an assumption about play of a player you don't know vs more standard scumplay(inconsistent words to actions, uncharitableness towards certain slots, etc.) scum stuff.

NotAHecticAlt · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:49 am

In post 537, Sigmund wrote:holy fuck this game is just full of people I want to murder-rate but none of them will die

Why did you vote T3 over Jake?

T3 · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:36 am

In post 526, Messy Anne wrote:
In post 523, Messy Anne wrote:VOTE: T3
Jake works too but I feel better about dead!T3
Quickexpln
Votes monke because single phrase felt off
Unvotes monke because monke (T3's top scumread at the time) explained why his wagon was bad
Doesn't vote anyone else

This is a weak reason to scumread someone, and it was T3's top suspect. T3 feels like they are not game solving. T3 also feels more inclined to explain their own actions rather than to question others.

I was asked to explain why I unvoted.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:49 am

In post 543, NotAHecticAlt wrote:I don't think Johnny has done/said anything that is close to the edges of his scumrange yet

I blush

NotAHecticAlt · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:02 pm

Anyone around?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 6:04 pm