Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

WhemeStar · Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:09 am

In post 1368, Titus wrote:
In post 1364, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1351, Titus wrote:
In post 1348, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1023, Titus wrote:want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.
On the second game day?
We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.
Wagon me
You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.

I don’t think I was ever in danger though. Why don’t you think I have a chance of being scum?

Titus · Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:14 am

In post 1375, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1368, Titus wrote:
In post 1364, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1351, Titus wrote:
In post 1348, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1023, Titus wrote:want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.
On the second game day?
We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.
Wagon me
You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.
I don’t think I was ever in danger though. Why don’t you think I have a chance of being scum?

You're too transparent and open about asking for help. Town listening to your posts wouldn't want to wagon you because you're emotionally genuine. Scum won't want to wagon you because your being lost makes you vulnerable to being manipulated.

Scum want their miseliminations to either be layups or vocal people they can't con. That's why I am usually wagoned. I'm both weird and stubborn. You're neither weird nor stubborn.

NDMath · Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:14 am

In post 1365, WhemeStar wrote:Maybe my issue is I think everyone in this game is great at mafia so I’m not scumreading people I usually obvious scumread and I’m super paranoid about town reading people

Who are said people which you would usually scumread now?

Artemiana · Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 am

In post 1303, morph the cat wrote:What did you mean by the bolded?

I had zero reason to suspect that town would treat Mastina with such malice that they would allow her to be eliminated the same way nacho/syr was in dbz.

This playlist isnt super againdt 3p asides from a scattering few, and mastina would habe had a chance to prove her worth. Nacho/syrs worth was already determined by the time they had gottened eliminated

Bell · Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:22 am

In post 1374, Artemiana wrote:Mmmm....

Mmmm...

@Bell

What do you think of Irchers catch up comparable to a certain 3p hydrad game?

It's typical. I'm waiting.

morph the cat · Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:23 am

In post 1378, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1303, morph the cat wrote:What did you mean by the bolded?
I had zero reason to suspect that town would treat Mastina with such malice that they would allow her to be eliminated the same way nacho/syr was in dbz.

This playlist isnt super againdt 3p asides from a scattering few, and mastina would habe had a chance to prove her worth. Nacho/syrs worth was already determined by the time they had gottened eliminated

This is all true and that's the direction we both were headed after Mastina's role info post.

Our interest in the DBZ 3rd party role was more about "yes, this sounds like the kind of 3rd party unwnd is partial to" than about how nacho/syr used their role in DBZ.

Your callout of us regarding mentioning the DBZ role didn't make sense to either of us.

NDMath · Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:35 am

In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.

Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.

Farkran · Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:41 am

In post 1368, Titus wrote:
In post 1364, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1351, Titus wrote:
In post 1348, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1023, Titus wrote:want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.
On the second game day?
We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.
Wagon me
You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.

Why whemestar does not have a decent chance of being scum?

Who does and could you briefly elaborate why? I.e. "this guy because of this specific post; this other guy because his iso is just noise", etc

I have yet to focus on anyone, so directions are very welcome

Farkran · Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 7:42 am

In post 1376, Titus wrote:
In post 1375, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1368, Titus wrote:
In post 1364, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1351, Titus wrote:
In post 1348, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1023, Titus wrote:want to start solidifying my reads, but we need wagons.
On the second game day?
We need wagons asap. Second game day, first game day...I want people to feel threatened. It generates data.
Wagon me
You're already wagoned enough. I'd rather be on someone with a decent chance of being scum.
I don’t think I was ever in danger though. Why don’t you think I have a chance of being scum?
You're too transparent and open about asking for help. Town listening to your posts wouldn't want to wagon you because you're emotionally genuine. Scum won't want to wagon you because your being lost makes you vulnerable to being manipulated.

Scum want their miseliminations to either be layups or vocal people they can't con. That's why I am usually wagoned. I'm both weird and stubborn. You're neither weird nor stubborn.

Oh nvm my first question

The second one stands

Titus · Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:01 am

In post 1010, Titus wrote:1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Town
2. Dunnstral - Null town
3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) - Null town, only reserve is buddying.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - Weak town (solely bc past baggage, anyone else solid town)
6. jjh927 Ircher - Null
7. Artemiana - Null scum
8. Sigmund - Null, gtmh town
9. Titus - Moonwalker
10. Bell - Townish
12. NDMath - lean scum
13. WhemeStar - Null, would compromise
14. notscience - Moderate town, hard with the PR
15. Anya - lean scum
16. Guillotina - Null, high priority to sort
17. Toogeloo - Weak town
18. Flea the Magician - Null (I need to sort them)
19. Chara - Weak town
20. Thestatusquo - I want to say town but keeps defending scum
21. MURDERCAT - Town
22. Farkran - Town
23. Bingle - Town
24. Something_Smart - Weak town

I'm ok with this for now

In post 1382, Farkran wrote:Who does and could you briefly elaborate why? I.e. "this guy because of this specific post; this other guy because his iso is just noise", etc

I already went over Anya because of their ISO being empty and that I wasn't going to translate them for content. Arte's opening was terrible, accusing me of being political when I'm not. Ircher's catchups are terrible.

G might be scum because of their bad OMGUS but it could be pretty.

Sigmund might be scum but feels townier lately and might have just been an easy push.

NDMath has been virtually non-existent and only replying. They have nothing unique to contribute which matches their last scum game I recall. That was ages ago though.

I would compromise on Flea/Wheme but I'd feel dirty about doing it.

ISO · Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:08 am

Is guillotina off the table for you now then?

Bell · Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:14 am

In post 1381, NDMath wrote:
In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.
Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.

They're meh this game.

Titus · Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:18 am

In post 1385, Thestatusquo wrote:Is guillotina off the table for you now then?

He's something I am explicitly listening to my TRs on them for now. I'm not going to push him now that I voiced my concerns. I know about baggage and that I cause that.

morph the cat · Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:22 am

In post 1386, Bell wrote:
In post 1381, NDMath wrote:
In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.
Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.
They're meh this game.

I've been wishing for Servant Assassin to swoop in and force Chara to do something alignment indicative. The iso to me is a highly polished surface and I can't see anything below that surface so far.

I might have to be the change I want to see in the world.

Titus · Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:26 am

In post 1388, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1386, Bell wrote:
In post 1381, NDMath wrote:
In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.
Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.
They're meh this game.
I've been wishing for Servant Assassin to swoop in and force Chara to do something alignment indicative. The iso to me is a highly polished surface and I can't see anything below that surface so far.

I might have to be the change I want to see in the world.

I'll try to do this.

Farkran · Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:35 am

In post 1386, Bell wrote:
In post 1381, NDMath wrote:
In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.
Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.
They're meh this game.

Name 3 players that are not meh - direct me to understand your pov

Chara · Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:45 am

i don't see why i need to be sorted specifically. surely meh is enough. sure you can force me to step it up for the game's sake if i

do

get wagoned but i respond well to things besides that. i've given some reads to talk about, i don't think i'm being completely opaque here.

plus weekend v/la.

Titus · Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:47 am

In post 1391, Chara wrote:i don't see why i need to be sorted specifically. surely meh is enough. sure you can force me to step it up for the game's sake if i
do
get wagoned but i respond well to things besides that. i've given some reads to talk about, i don't think i'm being completely opaque here.

plus weekend v/la.

You could be someone's lynchpin to a theory of the game. There's no harm in rehashing your thoughts, particularly if a townread asks. I'm now curious as to your thoughts on the current gamestate.

Bell · Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:50 am

In post 1390, Farkran wrote:
In post 1386, Bell wrote:
In post 1381, NDMath wrote:
In post 1318, Bell wrote:There should be more votes on Chara and Ndmath imo.
Why Chara? I'm not finding anything about them in your iso.
They're meh this game.
Name 3 players that are not meh - direct me to understand your pov

Lld, Morph, Shea,

Also, I don't like that scum aren't going for these particular LHF, so I figure ha the reason they aren't is because they're their buddies.

Chara · Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:50 am

In post 1353, Artemiana wrote:
In post 1072, White Fire wrote:
In post 876, Artemiana wrote:You on the other hand seem to be playing rather politically and reserved. Whats up? Lets go on a hunting trip together!
how is titus playing political in anyway.
I don't think titus is making hard controversial reads in any sense, and is picking on players who could be easily wagoned.

Just because people are taking hard stances against her reads doesn't mean the hard stances are expected. Without prior experience, guillotina can be easy to push, especially when its just him fighting back. Anyas playstyle makes her an easy push, and my massive difference in time makes me a fairly easy push.

If she scum read me for my opening and My approach to her it makes more sense to vote me the moment she noticed it, not pages after and only when a wagon seems to be going in my direction

i liked Titus's stance on Wheme.

her play this game has so far been very "yeah, i see why Titus is doing that" which is a trait of town Titus.

Chara · Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:54 am

In post 1392, Titus wrote:
In post 1391, Chara wrote:i don't see why i need to be sorted specifically. surely meh is enough. sure you can force me to step it up for the game's sake if i
do
get wagoned but i respond well to things besides that. i've given some reads to talk about, i don't think i'm being completely opaque here.

plus weekend v/la.
You could be someone's lynchpin to a theory of the game. There's no harm in rehashing your thoughts, particularly if a townread asks. I'm now curious as to your thoughts on the current gamestate.

i'm fine with rehashing thoughts, i just think there's a difference between engaging with me instead of simply saying "Chara has been meh" without elaborating on why that is. ie there's a world of difference between declaring i'm meh/whatever morph said and doing something about it.

a general gamestate read is hard when i'm caught up in bits and pieces. ask me about something specific?

Titus · Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:55 am

In post 1394, Chara wrote:her play this game has so far been very "yeah, i see why Titus is doing that" which is a trait of town Titus.

There are quite a few who claim Titus is making sense, therefore she's scum. I hate that personally but it is there as an undercurrent.

How about me making sense makes me town?

Bell · Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:56 am

I am doing something about it, I'm saying you should be voted.

Chara · Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:56 am

In post 1393, Bell wrote:Lld, Morph, Shea,

Also, I don't like that scum aren't going for these particular LHF, so I figure ha the reason they aren't is because they're their buddies.

am i being called lhf?

i don't like how your not-meh players are just the three with the highest postcounts. like, yeah.

Titus · Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:57 am

In post 1395, Chara wrote:ask me about something specific?

Do you feel the wagons today lead to catching a scum?