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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:00 am

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Why arent they mafia infinity?
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:00 am

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In post 2849, Isis wrote:
In post 2828, Chromium wrote:
In post 2811, Infinity 324 wrote:Isis you said it was scummy for me to weight your early game highly in my townread of you and then when asked what you did towny you quoted a bunch of your early game posts.

I get that you were gonna keep going but those posts are still towny and my read doesn't need to be a bad recency biased read to be genuine
How do you say this and think "hm my townread here is correct "
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 2769, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 322, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 314, srckz wrote:Despite what I said earlier about Inf I think the way she has approached Isis in the last page is a headscratcher. I could follow your convictions on Koba, but I don't know where Isis deserved the TR, especially threatening you with a scumread and all
It's not a strong TR, but I think she's doing a good job of presenting her thoughts to seem like she believes them if scum. Them being hard to understand is weakly town-indicative because the only reason for scum to have towny thoughts is in order to present them.
This still applies for my isis read
In post 2770, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2346, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2342, Morning Tweet wrote:Hm, I see your point with regards to Isis. I have seen scum!Isis lose motivation due to the workings of a setup in the past (purgatory) -- although i cannot remember if it showed up heavily in her gameplay. She was displeased in scum PT at least i noticed. I do feel anyone can be demotivated while playing in their stronger alignment even if they do have a good towngame or scumgame. Could see it even more if say the growing threat of mechanics screwing scum were making it frustrating ((disclaimer i have no idea if this is the case im barely paying attention to mechanics))
Yeah but I know what demotivated scum!isis looks like and I feel like I could identify it

Scum!isis here would have to be like, motivated enough to present her reads in a towny way and be emotionally towny but not enough to come up with towny thoughts. Whereas normally when she's demotivated as scum the presentation and emotion are scummy but the towny thoughts are still there. That's probably why I gut townread her
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:03 am

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she was pretty demotivated d1 when i was countering her bad mech plan. You out an analysis of her meta but don't actually match it up to the play
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:04 am

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We're legitimately reading a different game
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:06 am

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Yeah im actually reading the current one and you're reading past games. We are not the same.
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:06 am

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Infinity has made lots of mildly townish posts all d2

like a marathon

it's kind of chipping me bit by bit

I feel like I've articulated the reasons for townreading Dunnstral better than anyone else has articulated reasons which seems like somebody is a partner and then he hasn't done very much at all day 2 which could be scum!Dunnstral with less endurance to keep going into midgame

I have trouble keeping a scumread on anyone this game that isn't eroded

If we weren't gonna kill infinity for doing a couple distinctly wolfy things day1 and are gonna judge slots holistically, which I guess I should begrudging admit is better mafia, it's not a slot that should die really.

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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 2851, Chromium wrote:
In post 2849, Isis wrote:
In post 2828, Chromium wrote:
In post 2811, Infinity 324 wrote:Isis you said it was scummy for me to weight your early game highly in my townread of you and then when asked what you did towny you quoted a bunch of your early game posts.

I get that you were gonna keep going but those posts are still towny and my read doesn't need to be a bad recency biased read to be genuine
How do you say this and think "hm my townread here is correct "
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it's a philosophy I've had as both alignments since 2010. Scum are not hypocritical more often than town. There might even be reasons to expect town to be hypocritical more often. Being hypocritical in day to day life is bad though which generates the common mafia fallacy

I really should make a wiki page about it
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 11:22 am

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The contradiction in of itself isn't a smoking gun, it begs the question of why Isis found that play not AI for her them and AI for her now. a possible answer could be that she's describing it in a way that is convenient for her at the time and it's not coming from her genuine thought process (It was helpful to infinity scumread then and now it's helpful for towncasing herself)

Another answer is just that ppl are inconsistent which is totally fair but i would say is neutral overall

I still think Infinity is town and that post was also probably anti associative cause like, we wouldn't be talking about this had infi not pointed it out and i feel like you probably dont add fuel to the Isis fire if thats your partner. You'd probably be cognizant of how the post would come off as if you're scum with isis imo
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 12:57 pm

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Infinity is either scum who is TMIing a read on isis or isis has infinity pocketed.
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 12:57 pm

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I dont see a tvt universe there
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 12:59 pm

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/shrug you're probably wrong

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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:07 pm

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god fuck this bad faith shit

JOHNNY FUCKING FLIPPED TOWN AND WAS TOWNREADING DUNN AND SCUMREADING ISIS.

FUCKING READ THIS GAME.
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:08 pm

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YOUR OWN FUCKING POV INFINITY. WHY ARE YOU LEFT ALIVE OVER JOHNNY
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:08 pm

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WHO WAS THE ONE WHO PUSHED TO PUT JOHNNY IN POE
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:09 pm

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Is anyone opposed to throwing out one of Isis/Dunn then sending other to dungeon if they're town?
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 2863, Chromium wrote:YOUR OWN FUCKING POV INFINITY. WHY ARE YOU LEFT ALIVE OVER JOHNNY
Ppl scumread Infy like bottom two whereas Johnny was in the middle
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:11 pm

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In post 2865, Morning Tweet wrote:Is anyone opposed to throwing out one of Isis/Dunn then sending other to dungeon if they're town?
Yes bc dunn is town and isis is getting limmed today.
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:11 pm

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In post 2863, Chromium wrote:YOUR OWN FUCKING POV INFINITY. WHY ARE YOU LEFT ALIVE OVER JOHNNY
I can get mislimmed and johnny wouldnt? Lol

NKA is not, like, hard evidence or something
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm

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you'd need a hell of a good reason to kill inside of infinity/srckz from what i recall, suppose i could be wrong but Johnny almost didnt even go to dungeon. Infy/srckz were the solid dungeon picks cause they were consensus
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 2867, Chromium wrote:
In post 2865, Morning Tweet wrote:Is anyone opposed to throwing out one of Isis/Dunn then sending other to dungeon if they're town?
Yes bc dunn is town and isis is getting limmed today.
Well no if scum gets limmed then the vig/cop shot doesnt happen. It's a second elim if we elim a townie (check )
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2865, Morning Tweet wrote:Is anyone opposed to throwing out one of Isis/Dunn then sending other to dungeon if they're town?
I guess this is fine?
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2868, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2863, Chromium wrote:YOUR OWN FUCKING POV INFINITY. WHY ARE YOU LEFT ALIVE OVER JOHNNY
I can get mislimmed and johnny wouldnt? Lol

NKA is not, like, hard evidence or something
Better evidence than you gave buddy.
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:14 pm

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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 1:15 pm

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Yeah johnny got shoved into dungeon by isis bc they wanted a non poe person to kill
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