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Post Post #2975 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:02 pm

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I literally unvoted you I'm not stretching anything
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Post Post #2976 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:03 pm

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In post 2971, Morning Tweet wrote:Maybe true. Probably true even. Do you think scum Emily bothers to have this spat with you when there's no chance the elim is getting flipped onto you today?
Ok, the logic would be to get me to vote somewhere else and swing the elim onto cakez/dunn/isis
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Post Post #2977 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:03 pm

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every post you make seems to be maintaining the SR

you haven't actually reconsidered the read
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Post Post #2978 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:03 pm

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Post Post #2979 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:03 pm

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This is again reminiscent of prior games with town Emily where she expects someone to realize she can't be scum because she would never do X even though nobody was even talking about X during the push, and then she pushes that person for that reason
Emily wrote:she's really stretching to maintain that SR on me

its not motivated by townie trying to catch bad guys

its a scum that has nowhere left to go
You're basically waving stuff in Infy's face and saying "you scumread me even after I did this which i would never do as scum?". I'm not sure if Infy's
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It's also probably worth noting scum!Infinity can townread you and nothing changes for her
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Post Post #2980 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:04 pm

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I am reading your posts

they all feel like they want to keep me as the one you want to elim today
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Post Post #2981 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:04 pm

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In post 2979, Morning Tweet wrote:It's also probably worth noting scum!Infinity can townread you and nothing changes for her
Highlighting this for emphasis actually cause this is probably the most important point ill make

It really doesn't matter if scum!Infinity votes you or not.
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Post Post #2982 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:04 pm

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In post 2979, Morning Tweet wrote:It's also probably worth noting scum!Infinity can townread you and nothing changes for her
I don't think town!infinity scumreads me here
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Post Post #2983 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:05 pm

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If the read is inconsequential for scum!Infinity then she would probably just opt for whatever seems natural which would then be NAI
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Post Post #2984 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:05 pm

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the read is consequential
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Post Post #2985 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:06 pm

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You know most of my scumreads are PoE and you know how sticky my townreads are when I believe in them
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Post Post #2986 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:06 pm

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I want to stress this even more

It literally doesn't matter in the context of you living or dying whether Infinity townreads you or not. She doesn't have to bend over backwards to force your elim. Only reason I could see that being true is if mayyybe she has a scummy partner also on the hotseat. But i dont have a reason to believe that's happening atm
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Post Post #2987 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:07 pm

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Also then the hotseat partner would still have to be like dead even with you where Infinity's vote actually matters for deciding. Which probably isn't going to happen either.
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Post Post #2988 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:08 pm

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Also that partner would just get vigged anyway so idek

I really don't see any reason where Infinity forces a scumread on you. Whether she is scum or not this is just the natural read
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Post Post #2989 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:09 pm

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no the natural read for her would be to TR me
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Post Post #2990 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:10 pm

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I mean I already explained to her why she can't SR me and she looked at it and said "there's nothing here"

that's scum speak for, your logic makes sense but its inconvenient for my position so I'm going to hand-wave it.
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Post Post #2991 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:13 pm

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It's probably better to townread you because then this doesn't happen lol

Had Infinity townread you, then your wraith would have been contained to srckz (and srckz is already a more popular option than Infy anyway too). We wouldn't have had Infinity on the vig table at all -- she hasn't been on there until you now proposed it. It was also extremely unclear who dies tomorrow.

Infinity doesn't have to do anything with regards to wagons today, infinity has to just survive as long as possible essentially. Consider that town!Infinity may just be scumreading you which is also completely viable considering ppl are usually not as good at reading you as you would think (this is espeically true in my case reading you isn't it)

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If Infinity turned her scumread of you into a townread and agreed with your point literally nothing changes for her. That might even be better cause it might get you off her back. There is nothing inconvenient about townreading you for scum!Infinity.


Why does scum!Infinity need to scumread you? You need to establish that before you BoP her.
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Post Post #2992 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:14 pm

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Also townreading you makes Infinity look better than srckz in the event you're miselimmed here. And your blessing will be on srckz

I struggle to find the motivation to suppress a townread on you. I'm not sure there is one.
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Post Post #2993 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:16 pm

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like I'm trying to put this in context for you to understand.

Infinity/Me just finished a 9P game where we are the 2 scum.

I was in the "Coalition" type thing that failed.

I then went ahead and go three straight mis-eliminations to clinch the game for our team.

I am very capable of getting mis-eliminations as scum.

It does not make any sense for me to offer the town a "loyal-vig or guranteed scum-elim" in the event that I am wrong.

Not unless I thought I would definitely be the next elimination if Cake flipped green. That I would have no way of surviving pushing a mis-elim.

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There is no reason for me to bring this up in order to give the town self-vig/guilty in the event that I'm wrong on SC because scum!me would believe she can get another mis-elim
after
SC flips green.

Infinity knows this.

So How can Infinity think I'm scum if I'm offering a 1-1 trade?

The read isn't logical.
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Post Post #2994 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:16 pm

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In post 2976, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2971, Morning Tweet wrote:Maybe true. Probably true even. Do you think scum Emily bothers to have this spat with you when there's no chance the elim is getting flipped onto you today?
Ok, the logic would be to get me to vote somewhere else and swing the elim onto cakez/dunn/isis
I'm not sure i see it
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Post Post #2995 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:18 pm

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In post 2991, Morning Tweet wrote:If Infinity turned her scumread of you into a townread and agreed with your point literally nothing changes for her. That might even be better cause it might get you off her back. There is nothing inconvenient about townreading you for scum!Infinity.
if the only 2 options on the table are me and sircakez and infinity is teamed with sircakez, infinity does not have a choice but to push me and hope to win tommorrow.

if SC flips red, how does infinity survive?
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Post Post #2996 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:18 pm

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I think I could get isis limmed in that spot
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Post Post #2997 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:19 pm

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who are you even suspecting
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Post Post #2998 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:19 pm

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you think you can flip your TR on isis to an SR and somehow push that through?
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Post Post #2999 (ISO) » Sun May 30, 2021 8:20 pm

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I don't care if Infinity has the secret sauce to reading you AND also you should consider that Infinity literally said nothing about the dungeon point. All she did was vote you by PoE. You're defending yourself but essentially expecting Infinity to already know your defenses before you make em. Dont you think that's a bit unfair?

Haven't you seen people make the argument "Player should be aware I'm town because *insert thing i did 50 pages ago* which they should know I never do as scum because of this other game we played"

Like that's expecting mindreading basically. People don't know how you work just from one game. You can't assume someone plays the same way every time, nor that they will always pick up on your tells ESPECIALLY with ONE GAME of experience

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